I kinda like it tbh, no idea why people hate it so much
I do wish valorant had some more colorful or at least vibrant maps though the last few maps have just been very gray/monotone (pearl, abyss, corrode)
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I kinda like it tbh, no idea why people hate it so much
I do wish valorant had some more colorful or at least vibrant maps though the last few maps have just been very gray/monotone (pearl, abyss, corrode)
Phoenix skye and sage aren’t meta, but I’m sure he would be flexible enough to adapt
Mini boo got those stats playing against the best players itw at international events while governor had short tier 1 stints
Not comparable
Imagine if Europe lost chronicle, Alfajer, derke, and boaster.
It’s not being held in Berlin though, it’s in Paris. Surely the admin/tournament organizers are different
Started in 2023 with pancada and sacy leaving but really happened in 2024-early 2025. Sacy (goat init), saadhak (goat igl), less (goat sentinel), Aspas (goat duelist) all were no longer in Brazilian teams. Imagine if NA lost leaf, narrate, Zekken, valyn; g2 and sen would both be crippled and NA would have no good teams. Now that Aspas is back mibr are good, but saadhak and less left for eu and sacy retired, so the other teams are struggling.
On the bright side, I think sato, luxko, and spikezin are very talented and i am excited to see them. Just wish if sato was in loud tho :(
Johnqt is calling the start rounds. As the lurker, zellsis can then call the midround pivot/rotate off the space and information that he gets. You can literally hear him in the voice comm videos being vocal.
Yeah dudes an absolute beast Ngl just needs a slightly more consistent team
Bro Johnqt is the igl. Zellsis the sentinels secondary igl, and most secondary IGLs midround; obviously, igl and literally everyone else on the team also can make midround calls. Iirc zellsis was complaining that it’s harder to midround now that he is senti, but I believe he is still midrounding.
Unless something changed zellsis has always midrounded, including on sentinel, especially since sacy left.
Agreed, but I don’t think it’s as simple dropping your midrounder who is also a flexible player without having a clear upgrade in mind. Sen also have issues unrelated to fragging (struggling to trade at times, weird comps on some maps)
Am I tripping but kumi has literally one tier 2 match, you gotta give him time to see what he actually can do
Blahst as well doesn’t have a lot of tier 2 matches played, they got their stats against tier 3 players
Mada was absolutely unbelievable in t2, literally topped every stat metric, ofc he’s gonna translate well to t1. Can you find someone like that in zellsis’s role to replace him?
It is speculation, but it’s speculation based on past transfers of t2 player to t1
Also aimwise means Jack shit, aim wise doesn’t even mean they will frag better than zellsis. The only person that comes to mind is seven and I don’t know how much of an upgrade he actually is
I hate to be a stats Andy but the dude had incredibly mid t2 stats. How was he ever gonna start playing well against harder competition?
Lmfao what are you talking about
He’s either incredibly mid or the best player itw match to match
Been watching this guy since 2021 btw
Nah but there is a largeeee gap between t2 and t1, especially since m80/guard/mxm/oxg players left t2. You’d need to be a pretty stand out sentinel in t2 to actually be better than zellsis in t1.
DRX had so much aura in champs 2023/2022
Also kind of in lock-in
That means he’s doing the bare minimum. Calling him a good person for not literally restricting the freedom and potential of a player on his academy roster is kinda normalizing when orgs do stupid shit like this and contract jail their players, imo.
Now that you bring it up it is incredibly boring to watch
“Rob is a good person because he didn’t trap an academy player and put him in contract jail without letting him get a tier 1 opportunity”
Are you more used to one of the two dpis?
Champs might end up being cinema, if your ever watched any KC x event
Never really thought of them as having weak mental or being chokers before Toronto
Let’s not pretend that Zekken is consistent either
Feel like John gets so many more impactful kills on senti than init
Jqt senti (viper is kinda senti) and Zekken duelist and sen win cleanly
2-1 BLG, 2-0 SEN, 2-0 TH, 2-1 GENG
I’m honestly not confident with any of these picks tbh. I think heretics will win though cause rrq have very shaky form
Alfa was bigger in the most important moment and your referring to literally one round in a map where derke was actually the one having the most impact. Don’t get me wrong, Alfa turning up was prolly the biggest reason why the won icebox but he was flat the entire first half and they wouldn’t have gone down 11-3 if he was shooting in the first place. I think Alfajer had the higher peak of the two, and I think Leo does get overinflated stats but he’s by far more consistent and the more reliable of the two. Outside of Emea league finals in 2023, he tends to also be the bigger game player of the two.
I think asuna has the same kind of smarts as angel
His stats absolutely make him look better than he is. But Alfajer is also inconsistent outside of 2023, very feast or famine. Toronto is clouding people’s mind because he was hitting his shots but he was heavily criticized during stage 1 and last year due to inconsistency.
He was by far the most impactful player, had multiple big clutches and contributed heavily to pistol round wins. Idk if you remember watching the match live but until map 5 the grand finals mvp was undeniably either Leo for fnc or less for loud. He played stellar the whole tournament too, was very consistent comparative to Alfa.
The kicking and screaming part was stage 1 playoffs last year not lock-in, he had like 3 performances where he went +20-30
I hate this really dumb “Leo is a baiter” narrative. Alfajer (outside of like 2 matches) only farmed when fnc were dominating or winning, same with chron. Every single competitive match prime fnatic had Leo was the one who stepped up. I’m obviously not talking about what happened after he left.
Idgaf about stats
Leo literally dragged fnc kicking and screaming up 2 maps against loud in lock-in grand finals. He was the reason they won upper finals vs EG. Carried them in the important map v DRX when they got 13-1ed first map in champs. Literally put them on his back for all of stage 1 playoffs last year, was a big reason why they won the grand finals too. Alfa is very inconsistent last year. Just because he played well at Toronto doesn’t magically rewrite his past performances.
Mentioning 11-3 is funny because how did fnatic get up 2 maps in the first place? A huge part of it was Leo.
Bro had the best smoker (also the best lurker), the best initiator (at least in na), the best IGL, and the best flex (rb propaganda will not work) who was a suicidal level entry for him
At champs zeek had nearly as much impact. I would not say cned carried, but he was prolly still their best player.
Does prefranchising really count though? Korea were really weak at that point
Zeek did a lot to work too and starxo popped off in playoffs
Nah Leo was actually better than Alfa Alfa boosted tf out his champs stats on bilibili and zeta and got hard carried by Leo and derke in lock-in
Not to mention 2024 where Leo carried tf out of fnatic to even make Shanghai while Alfa was just ok
I laugh every time I see this guy posting his cards on twitter. Dude considered headshot percentage as a relevant stat to how good players are 😂
Rating is definitely shit but he had lower adr and also died 33 times in the second map. The adr suggests maybe he got eco frags or kills on low hp players? Idk I didn’t watch this one
That’s a pretty niche scenario though, most smoke Assists happen because running through a smoke with a flash is common pro play or pure luck spamming through a smoke. It would be cool though for different assists to be weighted differently (flashes > heals) for an example
Apr on smokes is kinda iffy don’t you get assists for people running through smokes and dying or spamming through smoke? Also get assists for brim stim
Kru will proceed to get grouped at champs like usual and just waste our time, sad :(