They've been a stable org for two decades. One of the longest standing orgs.
Reliability in funds is one of the most important aspects. It's why Acend wont get in. Money tied with crypto, so unreliable.
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They've been a stable org for two decades. One of the longest standing orgs.
Reliability in funds is one of the most important aspects. It's why Acend wont get in. Money tied with crypto, so unreliable.
Unlucky for DWG. Lost their spot to two teams who couldn't hang in NA. Unlucko. Hope their roster is picked up by Gen.G at least.
It's good that loud win. They've looked incredible this whole event. All 5 players in form. Just great valorant to watch.
Just glad they beat their curse. Took optic to the end, after being 2-0 down. Next event they got this!! DRX by far putting up the best matches to watch. the fpx match, then this. Both insane matches to watch.
It fell off in other regions because valve dont host events outside of EU. what investor wasnts to pay for a team, just to send them to EU. it sucks because Asia have/had some nice players that could shine if valve put any effort into other regions.
It's this reason I can see valorant passing CS esports. Riot are investing in every region right now, and they've had a great history with developing scenes in APAC, NA, and EU. It's why I'm more invested in val than CS aswell. CS I enjoy the esprots side, but it is bland when you watch the same teams face off at every event.
You're the one making up a narritive bro lol
The guy went top4 at an international lan, losing to optic. They then replaced their igl, and then their coach. All at the time he took up igling and was their main entry. the guy was by far not mid at the time he left val. Saying he wasn't is just a lie and cope tbh.
In CS, he's not at t1 player. the guy is in the pocket of elige, naf, and yekindar. All of which have been performing well in T1 in CS for years. they're the only NA players who can still compete at a good level. I'm more surprised that oSee is doing well. Nitro, is by far one of the weakest players in t1 atm.
ALso people still shit on him for being bad mechanically. Nobody has defended him mechanics. the guy is worse than what steel is in valorant mechanically. Guy is rocking a .87 in the last 3 months.
considering it's the biggest FPS esport in history, and been going on for the psat 20 years, I'd say it's pretty popular around the world.
You have teams coming out of china, Singapore, japan, KR, etc. The game isn't non existent, just valve crippled the Asian scene by charging per pc, per month. that just caused internet cafes to not house valve games, as it wasn't worth it for them.
The fact the use terrorist and counter terrorist isn't the reason it's not popular. Hell, some of the biggest and most successful games in history have terrorists being apart of it. It's not that big of an issue as they tend to censor specific versions of the games for specific countries.
Reason CS didn't get big in asia is because Valve tried overcharging the game at internet cafes. They killed their own scene in those countries.
Crossfire was just a more accessible game for people there.
Nitro was not mid in Valorant dude. Dont forget he also went from CS where he had a huge slump for nearly a year, came to val and in less than a year was 4th at an international event. The guy also played all roles, at a high level. Like, cs is an EU show compared to Na, but dont discredit that nitro was a good player at val
yay is something else. guy is by far the most dominant fragger the game has seen. Guy is by far the most consistent performing player to date. guy has been consistent since he was on andbox, and his run with envy/optic has been superb.
Buzz did play better that map. doesn't take away from the fact that cNed was the scariest Jett player int he world pre nerf. He was one of the few who consistently played her aggressive, and performed well.
He wasn't the best oper as a Jett player. That I'd give to yay, or even wardell. Just yay and wardell are more passive players than aggressive. It's why chamber suits yay perfectly.
Yay is probably the most dominant player to touch Valorant. guy is an absolute demon at the game. He just wasn't as good as cNed at playing Jett. He was top3, but he wasn't the best. He is however the best chamber in the world, by far.
So many people forget what cNed did on Jett before her nerf. Guy was by far the best Jett this game saw, outside of TenZ Iceland run.
ngl their weird sense of humor is actually entertaining at times. Like a breath of fresh air after EU toxicity.
Flukes aren't bad at all. idk why people have this negative feeling regarding a fluke. I guess it's because they cant hold that form, so people have a negative view on it. It doesn't mean the team didn't deserve to win, it's just the chance we'll see them perform that well again is ulikely.
Acend run at champs was a fluke because it wasn't ordinary for them to perform that well. They 100% deserved the win, as they all played insane.
Leicester had a fluke run at the premier league, and won. doesn't mean they didn't deserve it, just means that the expectations of that happening were really low.
They deserved the win 100%. they played out their mind the whole event. All 5 players turned up.
What causes a fluke tends to be consistancy. Optic can't be considered a fluke team, as they're consistently performing well.
Pre champs, Acend weren't a consistent team. Only 1 player on the roster was consistent, and that was cNed.
Gambits run wasn't considered a fluke, as they were considered one of the best teams in eu, being eliminated by fnatic before masters 2 2021, whom which went to the finals. After that event Gambit just stayed at the top of eu for the rest of the year.
Acend just had worldstar talent with cNed, but the others having their inconsistency issues, leading to an inconsistent team.
It was even before.
Before champions, only cNed was consistent on the team.
After, every single player who was on the winning roster, was statistically worse than during champions.
Also I think people call them a fluke run, as they were never considered to be a contender to win the vent. Their Berlin run was iffy. They didn't beat a single team they didn't play before, which is why Champs was a surprise. They looked like a completely different team in champs, with every player going insane.
Acend was more of a fluke because all 5 players of the team turned up at that event. Before champions, nearly every player except cNed, had consistency issues.
Also after that event every player on the Acend roster plays significantly worse than they did at that event. Not a single player, including cNed has had a peak like their performance at Champions 2021.
wdym, you have to play atleast 10 different agents to be considered the best /s
The thing with titles as best player, people look at scoreboard. It's why it's rare for a versatile player to get the title of the best. It tends to lead towards the most mechanically gifted player, who gets the most impact on the role. That is yay at the moment.
Also need to look at consistency. So far I dont think there's another player as consistent as yay with performing well.
tbh the people who hate on yay confuse me.
Dude is the most consistent fragger in the game, and has 0 conflicts with anyone. there's 0 reason to dislike the guy, be it his playstyle, or as an online personality.
also people who say he crutches on op body shot, dont remember him back when he rifled as Jett when he first joined Envy. The guy has proven he'd top tier with both rifle and op.
You trying to tell me not a single staff member at VK read offical riot announcements regarding banned teams for abusing a cam?
Any staff member should be keeping upto date with official riot announcements regarding rule changes and enforcements.
It could be. Fnatic does seem to have the play against M3C from last year, and this. The only issue is this year will have an Asterix due to the war, and M3c pretty much losing their jobs and funding.
Just a shame we wont see the M3C we know face off against Fnatic in a stable situation again.
I believe it was said that they were playing on like 60 ping during LCQ finals, as they didn't have the means. Remember people saying nats had packet loss, but idk tbh. Just from the sound of it, seems like they got fucked so hard by gambit dropping their teams.
M3C were always a better team than Fnatic since last berlin. They just got fucked because of the war.
last I saw about the dropout, they still have to do public service, just not millitary. So will still have to spend 18-22months serving the country in some way.
I'd be surprised if faker isn't in the KR team. Guy is the face of league, and KR esports.
tenz and hype dont go together.
TenZ is just shroud of 2018. Boring as fuck, but good gameplay when streaming. Shroud grew past all that after he returned to twitch after mixer. TenZ is still boring, just has entertaining gameplay when he streams.
Can't faker delay his longer because he dropped out of highschool? Remember reading that he wont have to do millitary service, but other public sector based service. OR if he can win the gold medal at Asian games, as esports was just added. SK count that as service to the country if you win. It happened with Son Heung-Min being exempt because he won gold at Asian games.
I could be 100% wrong, so please correct me if I am.
You forget, DRX always look elite in groups. They're gods in groups, then choke in playoffs. Just hope they go for a deep run this time. Been hoping every event they play at for a deep drx run.
considering there's only been two events so far, we dont really have a lot to go with. If we consider the last 12 months, that's something else.
With the only two events, the top 2 EMEA teams both had players missing in one of them.
Your whole argument is recency bias bro.
Edit - you're also talking down to FNC despite them coming top4 in masters 2, but you know. They're not a competitive team, as EMEA is just a 1 team region. Only fpx have a chance at winning anything despite FNX making playoffs in every event they've attended as a full 5. It would be all minus 1 if we include Reykjavík.
tbh G2 have never been a team worth watching since year 1. They're just EU TSM.
That event the only team who has 0 excuse for playing bad is G2. Liquid got into it because FPX had players who couldn't attend. FNC had 2 subs, not having their best player there. It's why there's an Asterix at that event.
Why're you not mentioning that at every event other than Reykjavík, there's been at least 2 EMEA teams in the top 4 placements, and at least 3 in playoffs.
Was pretty much the exact same shit that's happening here. Dropped player types on twitter after old team lost. Just rossy started tweeting back.
Rossy and aleko is the main one I think of when it came to shit talking previous teammates.
When I say Acend were inconsistent, I mean the players at the time. Zeek was hit or miss, bonecold was chilling at the bottom 2 of the scoreboard(given he was igl so he had other shit to focus on), starxo was similar to zeek, and kiles was mid.
Throughout their whole time as a team, it was cNed and friends. In champs, every player of the team turned up, and played insanely good. Then after that they went back to cNed being the only consistent player of the team. Bonecold left, zeek benched himself, kiles left. Although they're not the same acend they were, they still have the same issues. The only difference between old acend and new acend, is the Jett nerfs broke cNed. His performances look average compared to champs cNed.
Sen had a peak at iceland 2021, and just progressively got worse, and worse. Putting up worse performances, every match. Their lack of adapting to the meta shifts, is what lead them to fall behind other teams quick. It's what led teams like Optic to the top, as they were constantly moving along with the meta, and were by far the most consistent team in valorant right now.
that's why I say Sen had a bigger fall from grace than acend did. Acend just had one huge standout event, then went back to their normal self.
Sen fell off harder because Acend were inconsistent before champs, and had one event where all 5 players performed well. They just went back to their normal self afterwards.
Sen just struggled to do anything and didn't adapt to any meta changes.
Acend just had one good event, and that's it. Sen had a good event, and then progressively got worse, and worse. It's just now acend look like they're falling apart, where as Sen look like they're just holding on.
Dudes main fanbase are incels who have been rejected every chance they get, so they feed into the ideals that Tate presents.
It's either incels, or teenagers who are impressionable, and think the "alpha sigma dogshit look", is cool and they want to replicate it. They see a guy who has money, girls, doesn't care, so they want to be like that. It's another Dan Bilzerian story. a POS makes money off insecure teenagers and adults, while spewing dumb shit.
Like who the fuck else would give money toa guy who said women are his property, other than teenagers who have no real world experience, and incels who repulse women and have a deep hate for them.
Even in CS, there was a huge divide in regions. NA was mocked for years on CS. Br was mocked aswell. Esports has this weird desire for region vs region, as has been common in pretty much every esport scene. Siege had it, CS had it, Val has it, league, dota, etc. They all have it.
I'm not sure why it's a thing, considering other sports tend to go towards city/town based teams, in which they grew up around. HOwever that never stopped people being fans of other nations teams. Supporting ones nation in an event like a world cup, I understand. Having to feel like you have to blindly support a whole region, just to better than another, I dont fully understand. The memes and banter of region vs region can be hilarious at times. It's when some people base their whole personality around EU> this region, or NA > that region, etc.
CS it might not be as obvious as it's always been EU on top, besides the BR era of sk/lg. Even then, it was a single team that was insane at the time. Right now NA has one team in CS that is actually decent, and BR has one, potentially 2 if 00N can actually win a bo3 against an eu team.
That's why CS might appear to not have region vs region loyalty, but it does. It's just been around that inside those regions, you have rivalries.
Just look anywhere when it's an EU team vs NA/BR. EU fans flock to support the EU team playing, and NA support the NA team playing. Just not there's no real rivalries in NA, as it's a 1 team region.
It's a mix over the loud screaming having a chance to slip through the white noise, aswell as vibrations. IT's why there's a lot of dislike towards danish crowds in CSGO.
That's how I see it. Guess I can't support a football team that isn't my tiny ass local football team.
I'm just happy the match has gone to map5. the fact people believe you have to support the region you live in, is just insecure and delusional.
It's a danish crowd. They're known as the worst crowd in CS.
Just the cahnts are more interesting with a mix of fpx and prx. Rather that than yesterdays match which was just fpx, and 0 optic. Was boring hearing the crowd like that.
Did my man just realise that some people support a team, not a whole region just because they live in the region.
that's because they picked up supamen, poised, and zeck. They aquired the majority of the roster, which included their 10points. At the time they aquired the 2 players and coach, it only had 3 players and a coach left in the roster.
It wouldn't surprise me if he did get picked up by faze. I just dont understand why he'd be apart of faze, but not have the public announcement of being a faze member? Shanks not having any branding on his social media, makes 0 sense given the "clout" being a part of faze has in the gaming sphere.
Him wearing a cap and being on faze, honestly seems like you're reading far too much into it. Plus his brother is on Faze, so he could have just gotten the merch from him.
Him getting the cap from his brother is more plausible than being on faze as a sub, yet not saying anything about it.
UK isn't as bad as people think. I only issue since moving here, is how boring the place is. Just not much to actually do here.
Healthcare is good, dental care is good, education is decent. Nothing particularly horrible as general living here. I'd just rather live somewhere else in europe.
wym no on the healthcare? Well the "yeah no" part. like disagreeing on the capatilism part? or general hygiene being similar?
Although anecdotal, I've noticed US care more about the bright ass pearly whites which look bleached, where as Europe aren't that far into the pearly whites, but still have generally white teeth. Especially in the current generations. Uk in particular, teeth only really get bad in seniors at like age 65+.
EU overall is honestly top tier when it comes to pretty much anything. People meme about it, but they're good in nearly every area of life that it can offer.
The most American cause of poor dental care in the US is capitalism. General hygiene between the countries is similar, it's just UK has more accessible dentists.
When a dentist in the US is one of the highest earners as doctors, it's kinda insane.
His refusal to relocate is the main thing holding him back. individual skill, even pros admit he's one of the best opers in NA. His skill itself was never an issue, but more in terms of his limiations (arrogance like you said, and lack of relocating).
Plus you talk about when he was last on top. He's also probably the most consistent oper alongside yey and cryo.
It was also his downfall in CS. His skill was never in question, but more the shit outside the game.
Dont you know?
If you have a flag, you have to blindly support a team in that region, and never have opinions that arent in their favour.