Probably Pancad, or Marved.

fnatic at champs. beat them first time they played against them, then lost to them in the rematch.
in lcq, they had probably the roughest ride of all the teams. had to fight Sen, C9, Faze, and then The Guard who were the favourites of LCQ.
Like, I dont see how they were seen as the favourites, but being seen as the best Na team behind NRG is what I saw more of. favourites of the event, whoever calls that is delusional. Navi, loud, and fnatic were the favourites of the event, by far.

Shin is playing well right now though.
Scream on KAYO seems more troll than anything. Get a dedicated IGL, and let scream go ham on duellist like he always did. Him on Kayo is just wasting his potential.

Is his igling more important than his fragging when he was a duellist though?

I'd rather they picked up an actual dedicated igl, let scream pew pew. Seeing as that's what he was always best at.

nats

One thing I did notice when I'd go on his stream, is he also focused a lot on playing sage, and rifling. Which he did the one thing other Jett one tricks were forced to do. Learn other agents .
Like, his rifling isn't as bad as it used to be when he was a one trick. He got a lot better with it than the TSM days, where he's probably be better with a marshal than vandal.

True. The scene is far more competitive now, which is fantastic.

It just looked like in that match, and the past few where he's played Jett, that his op is far more inconsistent than it ever was. The guy was a demon on the op even when TSM was ass and barely qualling for anything. Just a shame how far it's declined in only 10months.

It's weird. Wardell used to diff other Jett players when he was even on the declining TSM. Seems the time he spent only playing ranked after leaving TSM, made him decline this much.
Wasn't even his Jett. Just his oping looked bland compared to how he used to be.

I agree people only genuinely hate shahz. The others do get some hate quite often when they play. When optic(nor nrg) play, fns gets hate. Steel isn't relevant enough anymore to get hate consistantly, but on 100t he did.
Shahzam is probably the only player to get hate when he isn't playing.

You also just said why people hate on the players aswell. I'm not saying people genuinly hate the other players, just reasons I've seen people hate on them in the past.

I agree with Mel and suygetsu. Mel had a hate threads for a day or two, but generally is banter on twitter.

true. Haven't seen too much about klaus and benkai when it comes to hate threads. Seen it far too many times for ange1 and fns/boaster though.

which ones are wrong.

Boaster was people saying he wasn't good mechanically, chocked on lans in playoffs, and he was cringe for his personality.
fns got heat every time optic lost, but praised when they won.
shahz is pretty self explanatory. There's 10,000 reasons people have come up to hate him. the main ones I've seen are his excuses
steel, I haven't seen a lot of hate on him since the split "sewers" shit when it wasn't even his fault.
stax and benkai, they shouldn't really be on here. I've seen more hate on starxo than either of them.
suygetsu is the killjoy situation 100%
Mel, the only comments I've seen have been about her being hyped af, having an ego in NA, and being humbled at GC. Other than that, I' haven't seen too much with her.

that's just what I've seen over a few months. IT's not 100%, but the most consistent I've personally seen, are these.

People only really hate on him when Optic lost a match. when they won, they'd praise him for how good of an igl he is :/

Reasons I've noticed people talk shit over the months/years.

FNS - smart but mechanics of a 30yr old. carried by yey (I dont believe it, but this is what I've read far too many times in the past. Mostly when Optic lost a match and fns was bottom of the sb)

Boaster - cringe always chocked in playoffs with fnatic

Shahz - ratzham, never takes accountability, grassed on friends when he was younger.

Stax - who tf hates stax. Guy is one of the most loved asian players, tf

steel? - people hate on steel because he has a troll personality and no results to back it up other than the 2nd lan ever.

Suygetsu? - killjoy situation. Came off as a whiney child more than anything. Steel and ANGE1 troll on twitter. Suygetsu just came off as a dick more than anything.
Benkai? - same as stax. who tf hates on Benkai

and now meL - I've only ever see comments about her chocking on Lan after all the hype surrounding C9W.

I'm more surprised you didn't include ANGE1, considering the huge hate boner VLR has for him when fpx were playing any event.

Best bet for him joining sen;
Tenz - duelist
yay - chamber
Dapr - initiator
Zellsis 2nd duelist/flex
Zander - controller igl.
Sick - 6th man

the roster can be competitive, just needs quite a bit overhaul.

Look at how Optic, Fnatic, FPX struggle when they're in a 4v5 most rounds. having a solid igl over player worked, but it's slowly going more towards mechanical players. Saadhak the igl for loud, is a demon. guy performs well, and igls well. Stax on drx, performs well, and igls well.
They're the future of what igls standards for mechanical play would be.
Zander performs well, and can igl. It's more down to if a team sees a player being 50/50 with igl/performing, or 70/30, etc.

This is all my personal opinion aswell. Just I can see the fading out of pure igls, and more of a focus on a hybrid igl/mechanical player.

People rate an igl who is mechanically good, so high.
People shit on igl's who are a better igl than player, i.e. FNS, Boaster, etc. Then praise the igls who can frag, Zander for example.

They've been a stable org for two decades. One of the longest standing orgs.
Reliability in funds is one of the most important aspects. It's why Acend wont get in. Money tied with crypto, so unreliable.

Unlucky for DWG. Lost their spot to two teams who couldn't hang in NA. Unlucko. Hope their roster is picked up by Gen.G at least.

It's good that loud win. They've looked incredible this whole event. All 5 players in form. Just great valorant to watch.

Just glad they beat their curse. Took optic to the end, after being 2-0 down. Next event they got this!! DRX by far putting up the best matches to watch. the fpx match, then this. Both insane matches to watch.

It fell off in other regions because valve dont host events outside of EU. what investor wasnts to pay for a team, just to send them to EU. it sucks because Asia have/had some nice players that could shine if valve put any effort into other regions.

It's this reason I can see valorant passing CS esports. Riot are investing in every region right now, and they've had a great history with developing scenes in APAC, NA, and EU. It's why I'm more invested in val than CS aswell. CS I enjoy the esprots side, but it is bland when you watch the same teams face off at every event.

You're the one making up a narritive bro lol

The guy went top4 at an international lan, losing to optic. They then replaced their igl, and then their coach. All at the time he took up igling and was their main entry. the guy was by far not mid at the time he left val. Saying he wasn't is just a lie and cope tbh.

In CS, he's not at t1 player. the guy is in the pocket of elige, naf, and yekindar. All of which have been performing well in T1 in CS for years. they're the only NA players who can still compete at a good level. I'm more surprised that oSee is doing well. Nitro, is by far one of the weakest players in t1 atm.
ALso people still shit on him for being bad mechanically. Nobody has defended him mechanics. the guy is worse than what steel is in valorant mechanically. Guy is rocking a .87 in the last 3 months.

considering it's the biggest FPS esport in history, and been going on for the psat 20 years, I'd say it's pretty popular around the world.
You have teams coming out of china, Singapore, japan, KR, etc. The game isn't non existent, just valve crippled the Asian scene by charging per pc, per month. that just caused internet cafes to not house valve games, as it wasn't worth it for them.

The fact the use terrorist and counter terrorist isn't the reason it's not popular. Hell, some of the biggest and most successful games in history have terrorists being apart of it. It's not that big of an issue as they tend to censor specific versions of the games for specific countries.

Reason CS didn't get big in asia is because Valve tried overcharging the game at internet cafes. They killed their own scene in those countries.
Crossfire was just a more accessible game for people there.

Nitro was not mid in Valorant dude. Dont forget he also went from CS where he had a huge slump for nearly a year, came to val and in less than a year was 4th at an international event. The guy also played all roles, at a high level. Like, cs is an EU show compared to Na, but dont discredit that nitro was a good player at val

yay is something else. guy is by far the most dominant fragger the game has seen. Guy is by far the most consistent performing player to date. guy has been consistent since he was on andbox, and his run with envy/optic has been superb.

Buzz did play better that map. doesn't take away from the fact that cNed was the scariest Jett player int he world pre nerf. He was one of the few who consistently played her aggressive, and performed well.
He wasn't the best oper as a Jett player. That I'd give to yay, or even wardell. Just yay and wardell are more passive players than aggressive. It's why chamber suits yay perfectly.

Yay is probably the most dominant player to touch Valorant. guy is an absolute demon at the game. He just wasn't as good as cNed at playing Jett. He was top3, but he wasn't the best. He is however the best chamber in the world, by far.

So many people forget what cNed did on Jett before her nerf. Guy was by far the best Jett this game saw, outside of TenZ Iceland run.

ngl their weird sense of humor is actually entertaining at times. Like a breath of fresh air after EU toxicity.

Flukes aren't bad at all. idk why people have this negative feeling regarding a fluke. I guess it's because they cant hold that form, so people have a negative view on it. It doesn't mean the team didn't deserve to win, it's just the chance we'll see them perform that well again is ulikely.
Acend run at champs was a fluke because it wasn't ordinary for them to perform that well. They 100% deserved the win, as they all played insane.

Leicester had a fluke run at the premier league, and won. doesn't mean they didn't deserve it, just means that the expectations of that happening were really low.

They deserved the win 100%. they played out their mind the whole event. All 5 players turned up.

What causes a fluke tends to be consistancy. Optic can't be considered a fluke team, as they're consistently performing well.
Pre champs, Acend weren't a consistent team. Only 1 player on the roster was consistent, and that was cNed.

Gambits run wasn't considered a fluke, as they were considered one of the best teams in eu, being eliminated by fnatic before masters 2 2021, whom which went to the finals. After that event Gambit just stayed at the top of eu for the rest of the year.

Acend just had worldstar talent with cNed, but the others having their inconsistency issues, leading to an inconsistent team.

It was even before.

Before champions, only cNed was consistent on the team.
After, every single player who was on the winning roster, was statistically worse than during champions.

Also I think people call them a fluke run, as they were never considered to be a contender to win the vent. Their Berlin run was iffy. They didn't beat a single team they didn't play before, which is why Champs was a surprise. They looked like a completely different team in champs, with every player going insane.

Acend was more of a fluke because all 5 players of the team turned up at that event. Before champions, nearly every player except cNed, had consistency issues.

Also after that event every player on the Acend roster plays significantly worse than they did at that event. Not a single player, including cNed has had a peak like their performance at Champions 2021.

Cryo Zekken

Facts tbh.

wdym, you have to play atleast 10 different agents to be considered the best /s

The thing with titles as best player, people look at scoreboard. It's why it's rare for a versatile player to get the title of the best. It tends to lead towards the most mechanically gifted player, who gets the most impact on the role. That is yay at the moment.

Also need to look at consistency. So far I dont think there's another player as consistent as yay with performing well.

tbh the people who hate on yay confuse me.
Dude is the most consistent fragger in the game, and has 0 conflicts with anyone. there's 0 reason to dislike the guy, be it his playstyle, or as an online personality.

also people who say he crutches on op body shot, dont remember him back when he rifled as Jett when he first joined Envy. The guy has proven he'd top tier with both rifle and op.

You trying to tell me not a single staff member at VK read offical riot announcements regarding banned teams for abusing a cam?

Any staff member should be keeping upto date with official riot announcements regarding rule changes and enforcements.

It could be. Fnatic does seem to have the play against M3C from last year, and this. The only issue is this year will have an Asterix due to the war, and M3c pretty much losing their jobs and funding.

Just a shame we wont see the M3C we know face off against Fnatic in a stable situation again.
I believe it was said that they were playing on like 60 ping during LCQ finals, as they didn't have the means. Remember people saying nats had packet loss, but idk tbh. Just from the sound of it, seems like they got fucked so hard by gambit dropping their teams.

M3C were always a better team than Fnatic since last berlin. They just got fucked because of the war.

last I saw about the dropout, they still have to do public service, just not millitary. So will still have to spend 18-22months serving the country in some way.

I'd be surprised if faker isn't in the KR team. Guy is the face of league, and KR esports.

tenz and hype dont go together.
TenZ is just shroud of 2018. Boring as fuck, but good gameplay when streaming. Shroud grew past all that after he returned to twitch after mixer. TenZ is still boring, just has entertaining gameplay when he streams.

Can't faker delay his longer because he dropped out of highschool? Remember reading that he wont have to do millitary service, but other public sector based service. OR if he can win the gold medal at Asian games, as esports was just added. SK count that as service to the country if you win. It happened with Son Heung-Min being exempt because he won gold at Asian games.

I could be 100% wrong, so please correct me if I am.

You forget, DRX always look elite in groups. They're gods in groups, then choke in playoffs. Just hope they go for a deep run this time. Been hoping every event they play at for a deep drx run.

considering there's only been two events so far, we dont really have a lot to go with. If we consider the last 12 months, that's something else.
With the only two events, the top 2 EMEA teams both had players missing in one of them.

Your whole argument is recency bias bro.

Edit - you're also talking down to FNC despite them coming top4 in masters 2, but you know. They're not a competitive team, as EMEA is just a 1 team region. Only fpx have a chance at winning anything despite FNX making playoffs in every event they've attended as a full 5. It would be all minus 1 if we include Reykjavík.

tbh G2 have never been a team worth watching since year 1. They're just EU TSM.

That event the only team who has 0 excuse for playing bad is G2. Liquid got into it because FPX had players who couldn't attend. FNC had 2 subs, not having their best player there. It's why there's an Asterix at that event.

Why're you not mentioning that at every event other than Reykjavík, there's been at least 2 EMEA teams in the top 4 placements, and at least 3 in playoffs.

Was pretty much the exact same shit that's happening here. Dropped player types on twitter after old team lost. Just rossy started tweeting back.

Rossy and aleko is the main one I think of when it came to shit talking previous teammates.