One of the unluckiest/most thrown maps on the international stage ever. Nats had a collat head shot 1v3 clutch, 2 people died in a gun round for free by jumping onto ledge at the same time and falling into the abyss, and kamyk had a 1v4 clutch while being stuck in one spot. Allat happened and they still barely lost 16-14. Knew it was bad watching it live but looking back holy shit it's even worse than I thought lmao. The only thing that made it not as bad for sen was the fact liquid threw a bit as well.

most iconic for Americas sure

But I feel like the most iconic moment overall has to be done on the international stage for sure

demon1 most iconic play for sure

idk if it's more iconic than cove though

because ardiis 3k clutch is arguably the greatest clutch of all time and suygetsu aim reset is an insane play + caster call to win the entire tournament. They are just as iconic if not more.

also way more impactful than the crashies fracture ace

2022 in general has like multiple moments that could be top 1 in different years imo

None of the singular demon1 moments are more iconic than Cove I'm afraid

That's true, I literally saw no one defending the tejo meta. Genuinely the most horrible one to watch. Toronto had decently good moments with SiuFatBB and PRX shenanigans, but the meta shift did affect it quite a bit I agree.

I pray for the most insane champs to date.

Yeah 2023 is great forsure, but the best things to happen that year aren't really singular moments like the 11-3 comeback from FNC or EG cooking at Champs. I think the most iconic 2023 moment is COVE, which is kinda sad ngl unless I'm forgetting something. 2025 is actually lacking singular iconic moments so far, but I believe in Champs.

2022 and 2024 had the most iconic moments imo

yeah, I don't know how I forgot it, the play + call is iconic. It was Tenz first Sen game and he did that against my fav team at the time (LG). Maybe that's why I didn't want to remember it.

I forgot about the crashies ace on rope that's def top 3.

Idk about the 2024 one. I think the KangKang 4k is easily the most iconic play of the year.

I forgot that happened ngl but I never forgot the Chronicle ace

2021: Chronicle Ace Against Kru

2022: SUYGETSU AIMS!
THE RESET!
ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!
4 KILLS FOR THE FINAL BLOW!

or

The most iconic clutch ever (Ardiis 3k against DRX)

2023: Cove

2024: KangKang Angel of Death (guardian 4k against TH up 11-9)

2025: PRX Losing a 12-1 lead against TL but managing to win in OT off a Patitek whiff

Did I cook?

On gamergirl's soul, M8 is going to finish first this split

M8 has the greatest Comeback

100t invy???

I have amnesia when it comes to mid players

I do think he can be good though, I just don't think he's the player Sen needs

soulcas deserves to be in a tier 1 team

no k*i does not count

yeah, you forgot to mention ange0

Both

what's up

if it's about destroying TL, I believe last time it was a close match.

I wanna see them destroy TL like 2 13-0's ts

I've been on just from the hype I've been hearing about their new signings and cause I think Minny and Kamyk are goated. And cause I wanna see Kamyk destroy TL in a revenge match even though that probably won't happen (I still think he shouldn't have been kicked to this day unless there were internal issues).

It's crazy how talented all the players on M8 are, I can easily see them being a top 3-4 team in Split 2.

I get that but the first person bro listed was SiuFatBB.

That's something I don't necessarily agree with. It's a team game and the igl's calling ability isn't the sole reason why a team is winning a tournament and not. He also has some of the best aim out of any igl. And G2 have consistently been a top team.

Even besides that, the first person he listed was siufatbb.

saying valyn even is crazy work

valyn is way too good to be a last second mention lmaoooo

I see some motherfuckers talking shit about the greatest player to ever touch the game, he already has 1 trophy to his name (that's the same as Aspas)

and unlike Aspas, he didn't pad his stats in regionals then proceed to be mid in internationals.

Aspas’ ratings in every international he has played:

Masters Shanghai: Ratings aren't available, 1.01 KD (he was sick at this point ultimately got benched after Shanghai.)
Champions LA: 1.23 Rating 2nd behind Demon1
Masters Tokyo: 1.31 Rating 2nd behind Alfajer
LOCK//IN: 1.30 Rating 2nd behind Shao (min. 100 rounds played)
Masters Copenhagen: 1.16 Rating tied for 4th with yay and trexx

Aspas average rating in internationals: 1.25
Aspas overall average rating: 1.22

Aspas' ratings in every international he has played:

Masters Toronto: 0.53 Rating 60th behind Midi
Champions 2024: 1.14 Rating 11th behind t3xture
Masters Shanghai: Ratings aren't available, 1.17 KD
Champions 2023: 1.15 Rating 8th behind Cloud
Masters Tokyo: 1.11 Rating tied for 9th with Demon1
LOCK//IN: 1.11 Rating tied for 18th with ardiis
Champions 2022: 0.99 Rating tied for 38th with nzr
Masters Copenhagen: 1.04 Rating tied for 24th with BuZz
Masters Reykjavik: 1.18 Rating 4th behind yay

Aspas average rating in internationals: 1.03 Rating
Aspas overall average rating: 1.23

Aspas was the one of the most impactful players of all time, and I believe he still will be when he is unbenched.

I compared him to Aspas because even after Toronto, there are still some madmen calling him the ''GOAT''. He is known for farming stats in regionals then giving out mid performances in internationals. He was statistically THE WORST player in LOUD when he won Champions 2022. and meanwhile Leo was THE BEST player of T1 in Masters Bangkok, and 2nd best in Masters Tokyo.

Have some respect on Aspas' name.

both are good

I just prefer reading over watching most of the time

Forgot about nadeshot's team

it's only one chapter though

look back is not an underground shout 😭

Please read "Look Back" by Tatsuki Fujimoto (Chainsawman Author).

Big fan of take me back to eden

I like a few songs from even in arcadia (Damocles and Caramel are prob my favs), but overall it's not as good as the first one for me

https://suno.com/song/f520a1f0-98f5-4cdc-bc6b-4b3ccee99f35
the y0y national anthem will always be number one to me

i mean they kinda did when they left valorant...

Xset was known for being perma 4th place in the plumber era of valorant and then leaving the scene forever at least Lev got 3rd in champs

Nah you're not ready for prime c0m

After hearing smite knife and prime karambit in the same sentence, I'm glad T1 fell off after Bangkok

i used to think the base was better but i really like the upgraded one now it depends on which version im not currently tired of

it is a bit outdated ig but i think it still holds up well

0/8

no prime karambit? 2 skins in one knife is goated. Get bored of one switch to the other.

Unupgraded foresaken

and it's not even close

Title

happens in pro play sometimes

not often though

People like you will keep underestimating China no matter what calling their runs "flukes". This is like when people underestimated Apac before they started winning.

Unfortunately, people will underestimate China even if they win champs again.

if we are talking about all time i agree, but rn he's a top 5 sentinel undisputed imo

are we deadass underrating leaf in 2025?

best player on the number 4 team in the world (yes, he's better than trent) and you don't even wanna consider him as a top 5 sentinel itw? cmon now. I know G2 gets a lot of hate, but leaf is hella underrated. He's imo one of the best aimers itw.

Then Cned should be HM since he's on the winning team right?

He still top fragged, but by his standard that tournament it was a bad game yes. Still doesn't mean that his other performances that tournament werent insane (which is what we are looking at).

Also the talk at the time was Envy getting the easiest group despite being 1st seed (they did) which inflated yay's stats

Brother in the playoffs, yay dropped 46/30 in the first game and 51/26 the second game (holy shit, I forgot how crazy he performed against 100T). His stats were def not inflated lol. Yay this tournament was actually a different beast.

Also in Champs Chronicle was insane yes, but I still think Derke was better (and yes I watched the tournament when it came out). To give Chronicle the HM there is a bit of a reach imo.

And he was the only 100T member that said the worst teammates he ever played with was BabyJ, which while probably isn't wrong, is still a crazy thing to say to the public