I mean why would people talk alot about a player when they aren't playing. Their opinions of that player don't just go away because they aren't playing lol. If you were to ask a user who they hate more between c0m, tex, and net 99 percent of the time it's going to be net (because he stands up).

yes but this thread is about who's more overhated

i would say icy deserves a lot of the hate he's gotten recently his performance has genuinely been horrible this split

And I say this as someone who still believes in him

its comparable

net is more valuable than icy rn for sure tho

I would say the hate for net is more unwarranted because icy has genuinely been hurting his team when it comes to results while 99 percent of hate when it comes to net is because he stands lol

yes and this thread is about who is the most overhated player right now

and everything i said still holds true

First of all, not true. The narrative has mostly shifted from zellsis is shit (which he never was) to zellsis is valuable to sen. Also, most of the shit about net is genuine hate, 90 percent of zellsis hate threads I've seen recently are either ragebait or dismissed as ragebait.

People genuinely think net provides no value to his team, while no one actually thinks that about zellsis. There are just more threads about zellsis because he's on sen lol.

I promise you other players on his caliber do not get even close to the amount of hate he does. Even today, there were an insane amount of sen fans that got ragebaited by net standing.

no he is not a star nor did I ever claim he is, but the way people are talking about him you would think he literally does nothing for the team.

It's not even just in vlr, people in twitch say the same shit. Even if you are just a stats watcher, his stats are no where near as bad as you would think from what people are saying.

I see users saying that he does nothing for his team when that isn't even true. He doesn't put up superstar level stats, but his does his role well and brings energy to the team. He's also been very impactful in playoffs so far. The only reason people hate him is because he stands up a lot which he does to hype up his team in crucial moments. Sen fans are probably the worst when it comes to net hate.

Edit: meant Americas in title not America lol

Sorry, but you did not play lev at their best

Sato was the only one playing that day. The lev vs kru (especially the last 2 maps) has been lev at their best.

are you the instalock clove in every other game i play

I'll start:

Ascent: Sova/Raze/Killjoy

Haven: Sova

Bind: Sova

Icebox: Sova

Lotus: Sova/Raze/Vyse

Icebox: Sova

Split: Raze/Astra/Killjoy

Pearl: Sova/Vyse

Breeze: Sova

Abyss: Sova/Chamber

Sunset: Sova/Deadlock

I wanna be the very best
Like no one ever was
To catch them is my real test
To train them is my cause
I will travel across the land
Searching far and wide
Teach Pokémon to understand
The power that's inside

(Pokémon
Gotta catch 'em all) It's you and me
I know it's my destiny (Pokémon)
Oh, you're my best friend
In a world we must defend (Pokémon
Gotta catch 'em all) A heart so true
Our courage will pull us through
You teach me and I'll teach you (Ooh, ooh)
Pokémon! (Gotta catch 'em all)
Gotta catch 'em all

MIBR FNS

not possible since if Lev get 2 wins they beat MIBR h2h and make playoffs over MIBR

Lev are NOT losing out they clear everyone in Americas

but thanks for letting me know, I just hope one of them makes it so I can root for a team in Champs

im pretty sure mibr cant make playoffs they need g2 and sen to be finalists

the problem with that is how are both lev and mibr gonna make champs then if lev needs to win Americas to qualify to champs?

??? so we gonna just act like c0m is gonna let that happen

Bet, can't wait to see Lev, Mibr, G2, and Sen in Champs!

to Champs? I sure hope so.

name + flair

eg 2-10 comeback against sen is the greatest viewing experience I've ever had watching valorant

and eg will win again

genuine superteam

im not joking look up FNS highlights and you'll see the truth

Nrg did get hella lucky on bind. Those random spams single handidly lost Mibr bind. Like when MIBR looks back on the VOD, I don't even know what they are supposed to do differently lol. At least on attack side.

don't fall for the bait bro

Verno should of realized that FNS is actually one of the best aimers in Americas when he isn't IGLing!

NRG aren't making champs. Come back when they get eliminated.

idk why people are not acting like the majority of the reason Verno is playing poorly is because he is the rookie igl of a team who's first language isn't english

too many baiters on vlr so it becomes hard to tell how stupid some of the people are on this site

brawk has more impact when verno is on the igl role, but when verno isn't igl he absolutely clears everyone in Amercias besides Trent and N4rrate. And imo his ceiling is higher than both of them.

people on vlr fs don't bait so idk bro

99 percent of users on this site are honest good individuals

cleared by babybay unforunately

I mean I've seen thousands of threads on vlr saying Sen are the best team in Americas over prime G2 and it astounds me. You bring up a good point it's a shame that literally everyone else on vlr can't see that and is saying G2 are worse.

If they leaf instead of babybay.

Prove me wrong.

no I'm not this is the most obvious bait ever

but i like responding anyways

Jawg was sick + best player replaced by babybay + G2 are already guaranteed for champs while Sen isn't

The fact Sen almost lost is crazy to me

Chill bro. Trent's thought process was to fight because if he hid, there is a good chance jawg dies and bomb isn't planted for him so it's an unfavorable 1v1. It makes complete sense.

prime zekken is needed to defeat babybay actually shameless

i don't think so because if trent hid there's a good chance that jawg dies and since it's not planted for trent, the round is in Sen's favor.

That round is a guaranteed win if jawg just swings while Narrate is fighting trent which is what trent was thinking, but jawg was still trying to play for time.

Miscommunication imo

i think trent commed he was going to fight to signal for jawg to swing and trade him, but jawg didn't do it

I think it was just miscommunication that caused them to lose

And Lev is the second best

I think it was a miscomm

trent staying there to fight was a good play if jawg traded him (which I honestly thought was gonna happen)

The real one team region was Americas all along

G2 looked good, I can not say the same for Sen they looked horrid

lend me your power prime zekken, this is retired babybay we are facing

And think the team losing absolutely clears the team that's beating them.

LEND ME ALL YOU POWER PRIME ZEKKEN, WE NEED TO DEFEAT BABYBAY

Valid reasoning and I agree after reading what you wrote. I do hope if Tex gets dropped, he finds another team. He has potential to be one of the best in his role.

Get ready to put on that Lev flair pal.

Tex has shown he can be great in a solid system I would give him another chance. This is def c0m's last chance though as much as I like him as a player.