AI and the future

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serot
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AI is unquestionably the future, even if you don't like it. It is too useful and too powerful to ignore.
But when the future is fully automated, what is the point of living as a human?

The next physics breakthrough? Discovered by AI independently.
The next big tech product? Imagined by AI.
The next bestselling book? Fully AI generated.
Add in robotics, and there goes all manual labor.
There is no place for humans in a future where intellectual work is automated alongside manual work.

This is our future. We have will have no meaningful work. We are approaching Wall-E levels of degeneracy. What are we supposed to even do as humans when all work is automated?

Either we somehow all live peaceful zero productivity utopian lives in heaven on earth while our AI overlords care for us, or we devolve into a debauched, degenerate society where we indulge excessively in pleasures and live meaningless, aimless existences. I think the latter is more likely. Why are we not more afraid of this future?

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Laundry
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where is this ai slop quote from i know you dont believe ts

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serot
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You can type something that isn't sloppy now and get accused of AI usage.
i could type leik ts omg so human since zero effort slop
AI is so prevalent now that effort is a flag for AI generation

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Laundry
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meow

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W1ngFly
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Extremely rare Laundry L

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sh1lll
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semi related but did u see the dude who resigned from anthropic after working for open ai / anthropic?

he said the ai race is going to cause human destruction or something

super interesting shit is brewing up and i want to see what (if anything) slows down these frontier companioes

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serot
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I saw that tweet too. It's pretty scary how unregulated the major AI labs are. As someone involved in tech it's genuinely baffling to see AI improve exponentially every month yet have almost zero safety guardrails. AI has so much potential to end the world or create dystopia.

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bro there's like 7 ai safety only companies we'll be good. The tagline itself has become a bit sycophantic

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Timmy9
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This is AI too.

#5
BerLINglazer
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say im alive

“im alive”

omg

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EseemedRes1180
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I don't think thats ever going to happen. The price of maintaining these ai are something you need to factor in. All ai companies right now are just artificially pumping up their prices only a matter of fact before they fall from grace.

We are going to have the next biggest financial crises before 2030 and thats the scariest part nobody is accounting for

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Correct, you can't really "make" an artifically intelligent body till we actually understand how our own brains work. Till we find life on another planet, our brain is still the most complicated thing we know about. Things like metacognition, emotional effects on the body are so complex, I'm surprised we just take our brain's abilities for granted. These models process very simple things and still require so many resources, I really don't think the fall of AI is far.

No input regarding the crises as I'm not educated enough

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zenv
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AI will never replace us theyll fall before we rise

#8
SkrtSkrt
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Do you live under the rock? AI has been replacing human since Covid and there's no sign of slowing down

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serot
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The world before COVID felt different
Feels like I am less optimistic about humanity every day after COVID

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W1ngFly
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AI is replacing humans who do unsafe/monotonous tasks
Have you seen an AI do a task that actually requires a lot of thinking?

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SadPandaBear
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Neither of those two outcomes you mention will materialize, society has a scarcity mindset which probably ends up in some neo-techno feudalism.

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delighted
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we are really using false dichotomy in 2026

everyone living peacefully without work is impossible, humans need income for basic necessities

and for the other outcome, there is a 0% chance where humans become hedonistic

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income is something we invented on the basis of human work being necessary
its compensation for value provided in work
there is a concept called universal basic income in utopian society, where everyone is allocated a baseline income for living life, irrespective of work being a thing
humans are hedonistic already to different degrees, not sure how it is possible you think its a zero percent chance

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ubi doesn't solve an existential/social problem

a person doesn't think that “i should do this otherwise I won't receive a paycheck“ all the time

they could think abt something in the lines of “ I wanna see if I can do this“

as for humans being hedonistic, it's not going to be like that for every degree

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BerLINglazer
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dickhotomy

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delighted
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ykw i'm upvoting this

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Top 10 people that WILL be replaced by AI

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ballsinyojaws
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Let's hope the sun finds a way to expire faster

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W1ngFly
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Yes, it is the future, but I don't agree with what all you said about the breakthroughs. As of now, AI still acts like a huge encyclopedia of INFORMATION (not knowledge), and you can ask it something and it'll find a relevant answer. It's not "thinking" by itself and just acts like a really advanced search engine

As for the generation part, it just fuses a couple of known things to make something "new". In my experience, all times I've tried generating AI images for experimentation, there's always something picked directly from an art style, there's nothing new. Human creativity still prevails

However, I have a strong opinion that critical thinking (or thinking in general) becomes a rare skill as many people today tend to indulge in superficial stuff and not really think for themselves (AI image trends, flexing off, etc). People will have meaningful work, because AI isn't really all that. Shit can't process a regular "Hello" without frying off your token usage. However, AI will automate so much of the monotonous tasks that people who feed off doing really basic tasks would need to skill up. And their thinking skills would be so fried that it becomes next-to-impossible for them to do so

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W answer

Generative AI isn't art, it's stealing, there won't be an AI able to express human art like we do for many reasons. We don't need AI to automatize production lines, we have robots already doing it, in fact we could've invested sooner to do things like that. Concretly in an utopia, we could let robots do all the necessary work for us to survive whereas we could do the other jobs while working a less amount of time and focus on our hobbies, things such as art. The thing is that, rich people won't invest in that kind of utipia, because if we were to stop working, they couldn't control us and make profit through what we do, because society is like a pyramid of social classes, people that can invest only serve their interests and would never exchange their privilege for an utopia where anyone could be free.

AI is just a flashy thing that interest billionaires who think they can use it to make profit by making it something we're dependant of

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Yes! I think capitalism would break down the moment something like UBI gets introduced. AI should, and will, replace the people working in hazardous conditions and doing manufacturing tasks. Companies are just trying to minimize human wages and introduce AI to increase their profit margins, but they'll eventually realize AI was far worse for them and rehire the human workforce.

Though I strongly believe the rich are trying to fry the human thinking capacity so they don't need to pay much money to this workforce and can make them do low quality work. And the ones who DO think well and have good skills (which will become rarer with passing time), the rich will just join hands with them.

Once this bubble pops, AI will actually begin to do what it was intended for: aiding humans. Self-driving cars, organization of stuff, etc. will be done by AI. All creative tasks will be done by humans, AI acts like a helper to fix the small problems that appear in a solution.

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GroKayou
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You dropped your crown king,

You're spitting facts man, that's what I was trying to say but my french brain can't figure out how to write in english correctly lol.

You're the greatest indian person I've ever met even though you're supporting TL

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W1ngFly
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Hahah thank you, this made my day 🥹

#24
x3malx3
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i will just kill myself if it gets too bad, problem solved

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W1ngFly
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Would you really let a CLANKER break the INDOMITABLE HUMAN SPIRIT?
You were literally born after WINNING A RACE buddy, you're born to achieve

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x3malx3
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exactly, as soon as i cant achieve due to systemic issues im gone bro. same thing if a zombie apocalypse happens or any dystopia for that matter, i am ending it as soon as i cant live the life i want to live (going to uni, doing my phd and working in the lab, playing the awesome game valorant!!! etc etc).

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As it stands, AI’s limitations are what humans know. Ask it to give you intstructions to build something humans don’t know how to make, like a time machine, it won’t give you them because it doesn’t know

#30
AlittleMio
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Ai still cant 'think', it cant make up anything original. Its is limited to using what we feed it/ let it consume

#32
kk85
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meatbag cope lol

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Chetin
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I'm still waiting for AI to do manual work, until it does it is really not that useful to me

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AegisJT
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I once heard that humanity is merely the reproductive organ for a higher mechanic consciousness and that scares the fuck outta me

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verybluepond
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most sota models are not very good at constructing new problem search spaces past synthesis of already existent knowledge (none of the problems solved are evidence to the contrary) so no I don't think the next physics breakthroughs are fully automated

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interesting topic

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