if NS win champs

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lyssss
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are they the best team of all time?

flawless run from ascension to santiago win and then win champs

#2
ppmcpoopoo
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2021 crazy racoons >>>>>

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ScatterSen
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They would just be the best at Neon, Yoru comps. Not the best of all time. You need to consistently win in multiple Metas to earn that title I’d say.

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primmiegoat
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But there is virtually no competition. The only one i can think of is prx but if ns win champs i think they dethrone them simply just because of that

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i mean that still would only have made them good at one meta? if ppl discredit the 2023 fnc run for being one meta the same applies to NS.
and to be clear i rate PRX above fnc all time, cause they have done it across more metas and more consistently than fnc

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thatpower
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fnatic are the only team with the same core to have two trophies. neither of them being champs

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vwrzera
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nah, yoru got nerfed in split 1 and they fell off HARD
a best team oat contender should at the very least be going to every masters in a year

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miykua
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think they had the highest peak of all time certainly

#6
lyssss
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i think that too but nobody seems to agree😭 people really dont want to give praise to korean teams

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mightve had the lowest ceiling of a masters winner btw

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catNmouse
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sen 2021 exists

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31Raven
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okay maybe second but not much higher

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catNmouse
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t1 2025 have a lower ceiling than them lol

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31Raven
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hmm
ion think so, t1 would be 3rd for me tho

#23
catNmouse
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ns had the most dominant finals performance & only dropped one map at the tournament, t1 are the only international winners that have a <50% round win rate in the GF

#19
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lev 26

#21
catNmouse
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elaborate

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Antiwitch
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no

#8
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Not sure if they are better than 2023 FNC if we’re going off of a single year, who were able to sustain their success from Kickoff till finishing out 4th at champs (made every single grand final except Champs that year)

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Wxvnter
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eh the thing is if we go value for value:

Fnatic tokyo is 1 masters, lock/in is kind of mickey I'd lowkey consider it half a masters, and then they got 4th at worlds. Nongshim would have won both a masters and worlds, which I would say worlds is equal to 2-3 masters. so I think it'd have to go to nongshim tbh

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tubelight
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Yes lol, anyone denying is just retarded

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MrHyphon
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If they drop less than 2 maps probably

#12
catNmouse
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not even close, I would still take FNC and PRX over them

#14
Warlordwibz
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Masters & Champs winner in same year sure why not. Only extreme specific criteria nit-picking would disagree. Results are Results.
NS international teams worst nightmare.

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thatpower
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they'd have the best year by far

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greatest team of 2026 but not all time no?

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