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#1
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After pacific regional gf at last international

They still think these americas and emea team wins vs shitters mean anything

Put KRU or LEV vs T1, I'll take my free money thank you

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MrBlooBloom
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everyone has been playing shitter other than KRU which is why they're nΒ°1 and it's all that matters really

#3
Zhinbets
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T1 is undefeated

Take off your western rose tinted glasses

#4
MrBlooBloom
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do you think T1 look better than KRU?

#5
Zhinbets
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10000000%

Give me 50:50 odds Ill bet the building on T1

#6
MrBlooBloom
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cool
I disagree
but saying that I think so because I'm biased towards western teams is very dumb and uninformed

#8
Zhinbets
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No, you are

Nobody actually thinks kru is even top 3 outside of the western world

#9
MrBlooBloom
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ok buddy

#10
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Every tourney it's the same story

NA EMEA teams shit the bed and then regional they are back farming plumbers all of a sudden the westerners are back huffing that copium

#11
MrBlooBloom
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uninformed

#12
Zhinbets
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Ive checked your entire post history

You are a textbook westerner

#15
HIMNIJ
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an NA team literally won 2025 champs which was 2 tournaments ago what are you talking about, youd at least have a point with the emea flame but NA literally won champs the tournament before last what are you talking about

#20
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Just cuz u win 1 tourney out of 4 in the last year doesn't mean you aren't shit

Sure it's technically "the most important one" but statistic doesn't care abt "importance" 1/4 is 1/4, aka an outlier

Outliers can happen with meta changes, natural variance

But at the end of day

If you take off rose tinted western glasses

Nobody thinks kru is top 3 in the world

#32
OldIGN
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T1 looked beatable against RRQ. KRU hasn't looked beatable.

edit: obviously T1 look good, but that RRQ game didnt help their case. T1 had a lot of issues during that bind.

#36
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πŸ₯€ bros blind

#16
DBStudios
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T1 is also playing against a bunch of bums who likely won't make an international this year

#21
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They arent making international bcuz its pacific, not cuz they bums

RRQ and FS would clap furia C9 SEN all those plumber NA teams

Dont get me started on EMEA...

#22
catNmouse
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the last international RRQ attended, they got grouped by a team who didn’t even make regional playoffs

#23
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Yeah, and what happened to kru and all these latam teams when they go to internationals?

These strawman arguments only work when its not against americas teams eh?

Classic western hypocrisy

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LATAM (and BR if you count them) has had good results too though? Top 3 at champions seoul and top 6 at champions paris is nothing to be ashamed about. You are acting like they play like complete bums internationally when theres no way to prove that, the same argument can be made for pacific teams too. In KRU’s case they have a completely different roster from their previous iterations and now they are displaying some great valorant within their region (which also has the best neon players mind you), of course these analysts will have them in high regards whether you like it or not. I don’t agree that they are the number 1 team in the world but it’s not as crazy as it sounds if you look at how they are playing and who the teams they played were

#31
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Wtf are these arguments

My brain legit cannot process the mental gymnastics westerners make to convince themselves that KRU look better than every team in pacific rn

#50
MrHyphon
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https://www.vlr.gg/378827/leviat-n-vs-team-heretics-valorant-champions-2024-ubsf

#54
Zhinbets
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Nice now link what happened to every single latan team that faced a kr team in the HISTORY of vlr

Thanks

#93
MrHyphon
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https://www.vlr.gg/348459/leviat-n-vs-t1-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-r2

#102
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I said KOREAN team not korean team mixed with botssy from NA and s0y0player

#24
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They haven't even played FS yet and RRQ almost lost to ZETA and only has one international match win in the history of the org lol

#26
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Ya and? So what makes kru better?

Did they not clap RRQ 2-0 who clapped FS already?

Because they beat NRG? Who would get clapped by half of pacific rn? What org history does furia have?

It's literally IMPOSSIBLE to wake up people from their western bias

#28
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T1 lost to two western teams in santiago btw

Furia and NRG literally made the event with one of them placing top 3, KRU displayed a great showing against those two teams which again is why they are rated highly

Also isn’t it ironic how you are preaching about western bias when you are just as biased towards the pacific teams?

#34
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No one cares about those outlier games

You have to understand the third best team in pacific

Beat every single team from NA and EMEA in bo3/bo5

Anyone can strawman pick random underperformances from a region's second seed to make the region look bad

Im not biased towards pacific, the stats tell the full story

#35
DBStudios
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This is incredible bias lmfao KRU has already beaten two teams who made international playoffs 2-0 btw while T1 beat no teams who made international playoffs even in regionals lol.

#90
foythvlr
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RRQ and FS should try clapping a map win on a international first

#86
grrrrni
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if u think t1 r better than kru ur just admiting u cant extrapolate how good a team is from watching them and can only judge teams based on vlr stat line

#104
Antiwitch
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Trash1 ain't beating KRU

#7
TentacleThing
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Flair

#18
mondely
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murica bias is unstoppable with these people

#25
Zhinbets
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Allegory of the cave type beat

#29
Galactc
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If I was in their group I could go 3-2 minimum they're not that good 😭😭

#30
Ryandr
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Apac fans can genuinely be this stupid so not even sure if this guy is ragebaiting here.

#37
Zhinbets
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Average iq is smarter in asia by every single measurable test and with no room for variance

#38
Ryandr
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It would be higher tbh but you alone bring that average down by 10 points. That's the power you have.

#41
Zhinbets
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Nice comeback bro!! You sure showed the world how stupid apac fans are!!

#45
overweightcat34
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I can't believe APAC think they have a chance for Champs 2025... Didn't they see TH vs FNC in the Esports World Cup??? Obviously the last tournament's results are the only thing that matter in predicting the next tournament in a different meta, with different teams, and several other new factors... Teams and regions don't improve over the course of the season...

#47
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Lowkey can't believe this ragebait almost got me ngl I thought I was stronger than this

#52
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Here's some more ragebait for you

https://imgur.com/a/PIWUZYu

Can't wait for free odds at london! Buh bye loser!

#59
Reimsy
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Betting on the clear favorite for every game LMAOOOOOOOO ok great oracle of wisdom I see you βœŒοΈπŸ˜‚

#64
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You don't know how to read odds? You delusional NA fans had NRG as -115 favorites πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

#71
Reimsy
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I'm less offended that you think I'm a bookie and more offended that you think I'm an NRG fan

#73
Zhinbets
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A bookie is the fkn casino what kinda moron are you

#75
Reimsy
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Sorry I didn't provide odds numbers on whether I was joking or not

#76
Zhinbets
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Say something that makes sense pls

#77
Reimsy
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I expected you to be more fun to argue with

#78
Zhinbets
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PLS STOP 😭 IT'S EMBARRASSING

#49
Z0vereign
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do i beat all?

#51
Zhinbets
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Yes.

#53
Langacune
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whats the top5

#60
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  1. T1
  2. PRX
  3. LEV
  4. Fnatic
  5. NS

get mf half the NA teams OUT of there

#67
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nobody that drops a map to team secret are in the top 20 never mind top 5 πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

#69
Zhinbets
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That's why westerns are blind πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

#55
Rakshy
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So T1 should be nΒ° 1 bcs they beat, let me see....

DFM, Varrel and Zeta?

#56
Zhinbets
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So who did kru beat.... hmmm furia?

#58
Rakshy
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Who at least went to Santiago, the best team T1 has beaten this stage are the biggest chokers in Pacific RRQ

#61
Zhinbets
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Going to santiago playing in a worse region means jackshit buddy

#63
Rakshy
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So DFM Varrel and Zeta would go to Santiago if they played in another region?

#68
Zhinbets
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RRQ would make it sometimes in NA and 100% of the time in EMEA :D

#70
Rakshy
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The only team T1 beat in Santiago was EDG so idk about ur Top 1 claim but w/e. U do u bro

#72
Zhinbets
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Yeah by ur logic top 5 would still be NS at 5th and 0 NA teams please start using your brain

No NA team beat PRX

Geng beat PRX

Geng > all of NA

This is what westerners be arguing πŸ˜‚

#79
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Yeah but T1 lost to two western teams in Santiago and hast face a good team yet. NS had a considerable fall in their form since and PRX look unconfortable in the current meta, the past is great and all but is the today that matters

#80
Zhinbets
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Yeah and today T1 >>>>

Holy fuck stop flip flopping ur arguments

#62
overweightcat34
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wait this unironically isn't ragebait bro forgot to take his meds πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€

#74
Zhinbets
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It's so fkn easy to ragebait when telling the truth triggers every single americas and EMEA fanboy

#84
mondely
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people who think this is an attempt at ragebait when it is just the truth is so stuck in their murica bias

#87
Zhinbets
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Trust me, I live in NA

these people are so far gone and brainwashed they lost all ability to think critically for themselves

#81
Germy
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T1 sucks dick i never wanna see them win a single match ever

#83
nightwinter14
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didnt t1 lose to TL last masters? lmfao

#89
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Nice comeback!!!! Your logic is impeccable. Wrap it up pacific gf coming up again.

πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»

#85
lyssss
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t1 is so ass at internationals😭 but tbf they're overrating americas teams a lot, especially when so many of those players have 0 international experience, prx would destroy them

#88
Zhinbets
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not just PRX 😭 all 3 apac teams that make london will destroy them

#91
dododo_de_dadada
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if i had a dollar for everytime you used "westerner" as a slur I'd be a millionaire by now

#101
Zhinbets
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Westerner is not a slur, it's a designation

#92
shrike-
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how did this many people fall for it

#99
sideshowsbaldhead
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genuinely one of the weaker baits ive seen recently and he didnt even have the guts to post it on main and somehow still dropped 100 posts idk man

#94
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  • TMV is a known T1 doubter, and the other 2 are part of americas (bias).
  • I support T1 for pacific, the only thing holding T1 back from being a world beater is KDG lack of international experience. He make good use of buzz being solo duelist neon, but still not bringing the best out of meteor yet. Munchkin re-integration has been positive progress but again.... the pistol round need to be improved.

Also If you post this at 8pm asia time instead of 3/4am asia time, you'd get more people supporting your post.

#95
catNmouse
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i actually really like their solo duelist approach to the game. it’s unique compared to what every other pacific team likes to play. people look down on them because there are 2 japanese teams and varrel who are probably bottom 3

meteor is just in a rough spot right now ever since he’s sick + he’s usually better in internationals than regionals. i think he called himself overrated once cause of that

#98
Warlordwibz
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I don't think meteor's form isn't just because of his sickness. When I look at T1 coaching staff compared to previous years, Indigo seen to be more commanding telling players what they needed to do to improve from game plan perspective as compared to CheongGak who is seen to be more data analytic.

Another thing I notice compare to last year is meteor is more assertive by being more direct to autumn with feedbacks and taking care of sylvan as compared to being more laid back in this roster new coach + munchkin integration.

T1 should qualify to London, but meteor form, coaching staff & pistol round needs improvement to win the event I reckon.

#103
Zhinbets
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Trust me, I ain't complaining

As long as these dummies keep underrating pacific teams I will keep making money

#97
sexwithgiraffes
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this ragebait shit is getting too sophisticated, I almost feel for it

#100
CxsmicEntity
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What did I just read vro, ts pmo

#108
Zhinbets
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Lmfao, so many idiots in this comment section

in no universe is kru top 1, PERIOD

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