yeah I think the stat was right, Ange1 is older but he retired younger. JV was the oldest last month when he was dropped.
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yeah I think the stat was right, Ange1 is older but he retired younger. JV was the oldest last month when he was dropped.
Ok and JessieVash just got dropped last month so oldest active player, not oldest person to have played.
Is it JessieVash from Team Secret? Only other name that comes to mind
Don't worry guys they picked up babybay, dropped Anderzz, and dropped JonahP all so they could make it further in global events...
Zellsis carries team podcasts. Sen Society was peak last 2 years now it's the C9 podcast.
why would I ever willingly queue this godforsaken game?
Don't watch pros too closely, just react to the clips it is how this game is meant to be consumed. The round to round decision making from 70% of these pros is genuinely shocking.
Artzin and Alym hard carried map 1 but the entire series the team has looked half asleep.
Eeiu looked asleep, Koala wasn't shooting back, Alym was hard feeding, Nerve just being himself. Artzin was the only player in the lobby today. I think the team stays together fine they just need to swap out Nerve for a player that actually contributes. Even in previous wins Nerve has been a non-factor in 99% of rounds, swap him out for any other controller.
these guys must be off the fent or something they keep making stupid decisions we have seen them play so much better before. Nerve genuinely bench yourself tf am I watching
I was thinking more Champs 2024 and Masters Bangkok, but sure this last tournament they once again trolled the PRX map ban
Until he proves he won't troll a map ban in Champs he deserves some criticism. With that said he is still good but I don't think these Harbor comps have legs. Ig both Valyn and JoshRT deserve criticism for that IMO, if you like the Harbor I guess you are feasting.
wait this unironically isn't ragebait bro forgot to take his meds 💀💀💀💀💀
I can't believe APAC think they have a chance for Champs 2025... Didn't they see TH vs FNC in the Esports World Cup??? Obviously the last tournament's results are the only thing that matter in predicting the next tournament in a different meta, with different teams, and several other new factors... Teams and regions don't improve over the course of the season...
With no round robin style and super condensed schedules next year teams won't have much time in-between games to anti-strat their opponents. I recommend instead of hiring a Assistant coach to watch VODs, hire a social media manager to scroll through opponents old tweets and flag any sub-par interaction they have had so RIOT can step in and give them a ban. Ik Cane was banned for in-game stuff but istg if you looked harder most of these players have said or done something ban worthy according to previous RIOT decisions...
Yes but there is a selection bias there because you have the best teams at global events, making drop offs in quality less expected, and to my point those teams have gone through a league stage. The first part of the viewing experience to suffer in macro-strategy, and my opinion quality, will be the regional match-ups in tournament cups. Those are the games changing from week to week round robins into a likely much tighter schedule.
For me it is more negative than positive, but I hope the positives shine through more than I am expecting. I made my take about the meta being influenced, I hope I am wrong and macro-strategy and anti-stratting is a bigger part of the game. You are right lots of details still need to be decided, just wanted to respond to the take "Tournament format good" some community members and VCT talent like Sideshow and Bren have mentioned, as it seems to have influenced Riot to kill league/stage format.
Tbf they cooked hard when adding swiss stages and triple elim Kick-Off, but they mess up more often see Lock IN, 8 team Master's, general seating draw shenanigans, 2023 FNC earning EMEA 5 champs slots..., and every other thing they mess up before tournaments like scheduling and meta/map changes.
It is similar to the balance team being 1-2 solid changes away from the best meta of all time post Champs 25 then they MASSIVELY overhaul the entire thing to make it objectively worse....
That would be perfect, keep current system even keep tournament style for Kick-off just add open qualifiers before
Naw you can check my post history I am used to it. Back in my day this platform was W ragebait and well-thought out takes with debates but now ppl do low effort rage bait and comment "not reading ts"
An actual thoughtful take instead of yelling about Neon kda stats, wow nature is healing. The main issue is Sentinels being weak, buff them again and see what happens, although I think adding a fuel cost to Neon jumping around would mostly solve her issue. That would mean Neon mains get to keep their movement you just can't spam it in a thoughtless way. I also want to see shotguns nerfed a bit, the prevalence of shorty, bucky, judge buys is not super enjoyable to watch or play against.
Personally I like the current round robin stage/league system format. I understand some people think bracket style tournament games have more stakes because games are elimination and qualification, but there is also tactical depth that is lost by completely switching to this system. By having week to week games teams are given 6 days minimum to prep for each match-up(not counting super-weeks or whatever tf China is doing). While some teams could always use more time, this schedule allows for all competitive teams to specifically prepare for their opponents with counter-comps, anti-strats, and VOD reviewing player tendencies. In tournament style play you do not have the time to do that, as games are often 2-3 days apart and depending on seating/scheduling you may have to wait for your opponent's game to finish to see who you will play (barring the 1st game of the tournament and any multi-day break between playoffs/top 4). What I predict this system creating is a race to the bottom for the most brawly, all or nothing, capitalize on the first advantage playstyle. You won't have the time to optimize for specific match-ups, and whatever time you do spend on that would likely be better put to use working on team-fight fundamentals and agent mastery. Think every single team playing like PRX, and not only because that style is optimal in the current meta, but because the structure of the competition incentivizes that playstyle as well. Why would any self-respecting coach waste time watching their opponent play next year when you likely don't have enough time to implement and test specific protocols or anti strats? Currently league play is the best chance to see all unique regional match-ups and it heavily encourages teams to work on countering their opponents week to week.
Now I am not fully arguing for league play in every aspect or to re-work global event formats to be round robin, what I am asking for is to retain the mix of both formats instead of completely killing round robin. The mix of formats is the best of both worlds, in regional events teams have time to counter each other leading to higher level unique play and in global events the tournament schedule keeps viewers engaged with do or die stakes.
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Shotguns are easily 90% of the problem. Only Neon nerf I want is a run meter cost to jumping around, doesn't kill the movement of the agent but can't spam jump without a cost.
Yeah NRG just omega tilted the last 3 maps. It seemed like the mood picked up a little on Breeze but they were still going for risky hero plays IMO. Also Ethan is either a 4k machine or a walking ult orb with zero in-between. His stats are pretty decent but also Keiko's decision making in some of these rounds just tilted me.
I just want our region to have any sort of answer for the way PRX plays. Seems like half the battle is like G2 just shitting themselves before the game starts and the other half is tilting to PRX hero plays in the game. Also just in general the team coordination that is usually Americas strength was really lacking this tournament, like how many times did they feed PRX a highlight clip by peeking the same guy 1 at a time? I honestly lost count
I need G2, NRG, FURIA, and all the other semi-decent Americas teams to get together and VOD review all the games the region played vs PRX. WE CANNOT BEAT THIS MF TEAM. Props to the PRX players and no hate to other regions, but I am tired of the region getting sat down and spanked by this team that aggros every single stimuli. I want all the Americas coaches in a 2 week long "How to beat PRX" boot camp. It isn't even so much that Americas lose every time, it is that they play awful and have no chance of really winning. Once again no hate to PRX your team did really good and earned the spot and if Americas can't beat the best they won't ever be the best. Anyway I'll start the laugh thread
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It isn't one player he is just the best at it. This duelist rush meta is pretty hard to watch personally and I know I am gonna get down fragged to oblivion for that take but idc. Nerf Neon, Yoru, Waylay and buff all the dead agents like sentis
True I am coping but this is still an issue IMO
Like I said indirect benefit. If you can't understand what that means it aint on me to explain it to you
Horizontal (Yaw) switch time increased from 0.37s → 0.6s
Chance for horizontal (Yaw) to switch increased from 6% → 10%
Protected bullet count increased from 6 → 8 bullets
Vandal
Horizontal (Yaw) switch time increased from 0.37s → 0.6s
Chance for horizontal (Yaw) to switch increased from 6% → 10%
Protected bullet count increased from 4 → 6 bullets
Straight from RIOT, protected bullet count go up. Not directly related to movement I see your point, but more protected bullets offers indirect benefit to moving and spraying
He is another example of it. Genuinely do people like these random BS kills? I don't think my brain is built to enjoy randomness like this
Did anyone ask for the spray changes to Phantom/Vandal? Something got a 1. moving, spraying, flicking headshot clutch and 2. a jumping headshot clutch.
He was doing stuff like this before the update but did anyone ask for this change? I want to hear from the fans of this change cause these full movement kills are tilting me even if FURIA don't seem to be bothered by it.
He was in Breach jail for a decent chunk of the last 2 years so his KD being mid-low is ok as long as he enables his duelist and his team is winning. He did have a few good games on Vyse and was pretty solid in clutch situations, 2vXs, and 3vXs. Also he was able to flex all of flash initiator, scan initiator, Viper, and some sentinel.
W also they should nerf the shorty and maybe tune the spam changes back a bit
Yeah Sage is decent the slow orbs and wall is useful. Deadlock is pretty weak in the current meta but with the right set ups you can still find value at least in ranked. Reyna is damn nearly useless in pro but always playable in ranked
I mean this respectfully but that is a load of nonsense and a complete non-issue. Bad apples are bad apples, but what I am talking about people who have had perms for several other events already and got denied for this one for no apparent reason.
It comes down to RIOT approval and for this one they were more stingy
Ok so you invite the top 30 or whatever number of streamers that you want to boost viewership. Is your argument that RIOT will increase viewership by not including smaller streamers? That simply isn't true, casting a wide net and letting all streamers, barring the tiny amount that are brand risks/abusive/etc, only adds more positive viewership. Not to mention my other point being that smaller streamers offer a more personalized back and forth with their communities than the big streamers. I can join Tarik's chat and be one of the 60k people spamming dwerk or I can join a smaller streamer I like and actually have insight and interaction about the game. For those that like the spam chats like Tarik, FNS, Shanks that is fine but why not allow both types to co-stream?
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