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EMEA agenda?

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#1
glittering_yard

Why is the caster calling Chronicle the most decorated player in VCT?

Sacy was already more decorated in 2024, and there is also Ethan with 2 Champions

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3 tropies and 7 finals (3x Masters, 2x Champs, 1x LOCK//IN, 1x EWC) > anyone else tho

chron could literally have 6-7 trophies rn (all his finals losses were close in maps/rounds, 2-3 ACEND, 1-3 PRX, 2-3 TH, 2-3 NRG)

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DSBY
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couldn't have said it better myself

#6
glittering_yard
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no Champions trophy, and making finals is not a trophy

#8
n1cf
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let it go bruh chron will probably see at least 3 more finals while all of loud 2022 are washed bums

#11
CaxTonYT
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Not in VIT he won't

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Videl
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Seeing this as hes down 0-6 to essentially a tier 2 team is hilarious.

#18
HIMNIJ
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"essentially tier 2 team" NRG just fucking won champs with 3 tier 2 players this take hasnt made since since 2024

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Videl
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can hardly call mada a tier 2 player when he owned challengers for 2 whole years. And just never got a chance. + a champs winner. + one of the most experience players in the game.

#31
HIMNIJ
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was he in tier2 though?

#19
CaxTonYT
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OMG he's down 0-6 such a shocker

#24
foythvlr
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he doesn't have boaster and alfajer daddies to carry him anymore

#29
glittering_yard
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someone bring the 2nd Place trophy to Chronicle, cuz hes never touching that Champions trophy

https://www.vlr.gg/player/2894/kiles

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Galactc
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This anti finals narrative is so braindead fuck you mean 2nd place isn't good 😭
Idc who your goat is it's just wrong

#20
glittering_yard
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?

This has nothing to do with the main point, 2nd place is good, but it doesnt add anything to how >decorated< someone is

#4
CaxTonYT
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Kekw

#5
Castawaytwizz
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hes the most decorated objectively. not the best player though

#7
themaniel
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the tickle monster may not be the goat but hes won more things than anyone else

#9
Livvie
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3 is bigger than 2

#16
glittering_yard
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So Dani Alves is more decorated than Pele, right? Because Dani Alves has 44 titles, and Pele has 30?

Every trophy has a value to it and every sport has the biggest trophy, the World Championship of that game

Sacy has Masters + Champions, Ethan has 2 Champions, Chronicle has 2 Masters + Lockin but no Champs

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Livvie
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i mean yea?

more decorated doesnt mean better

#33
glittering_yard
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fuck no

Pele has >3 World Cups<, that alone clears all titles of Dani Alves

Trophies have different values, and the World Championship of the game will always gap everything else

#34
Livvie
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:3

valorant masters are closer to a valorant champs than say a random league title to a world cup

world cups happen every 4yrs

#10
ccccc_
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what is sacy doing now

#14
CaxTonYT
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Im all for defending chron but this argument doesnt make sense. Chron is still young and has a lot of potential. Sacy by the time they won madrid was old enough for him to think that he had done enough

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ccccc_
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longevity is a factor

#22
CaxTonYT
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Yeah he kinda has lesser of a legacy that's true

#12
LocoMonteiro
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3>2
hope that helped

#21
glittering_yard
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#16

#25
LocoMonteiro
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world cup is much valuable than other titles because it only happens every 4 years which makes the number of winners much smaller.
given that champions happens every year that analogy has no meaningful value, and even if champions is more prestigious than masters, no player in the world would take 1 champions win over 2 masters wins, not to mention the fact that sacy had 2 years at the top, chron had 4

#26
glittering_yard
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no player in the world would take 1 champions win over 2 masters wins

aspas said that he would prefer to win 1 Champions over 5 Masters

#27
LocoMonteiro
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if i only showed up at champions year after year i would probably say the same ngl

#23
sw4gman
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why are we still counting showmatch trophies LOL

#28
glittering_yard
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mfs saying 3>2 and even counting 2nd places to gas it up, while ignoring the big ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM:

none of those 3 are Champions trophies

"oh but he COULD'VE won 7 trillion trophies!" Yeah, so does Urango if he started trying, but Chronicle lost to -31 KIles 🤷

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