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rating is the dumbest thing ever

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#1
nAtsbiggestfan2

rating doesn't prove anything. kills is really the biggest determinator.

#2
I_LOVE_LESS
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duelist propaganda

#3
nAtsbiggestfan2
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nope but after seeing someone with 800 kills have same rating as someone with like 660 kills i realized how fucked rating is

#4
Kamcatka
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Maybe guy with 800 kills died 1600 times?

#5
nAtsbiggestfan2
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nope, i was using oxy and shahzam 2023 challengers league NA as the point of reference

#7
Cheasle2
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Oxy has less KAST, half Shahz APR, over 100 more deaths, and 0.18FDPR (one of the highest in the tournament) vs Shahz 0.07FDPR
and they still have the same rating.

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nAtsbiggestfan2
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yes but more deaths doesn't mean less impact (it means he entries)

#9
inuis
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economic damage + 0.18fdpr means he was probably dying without much impact quite a lot

#23
Cheasle2
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yes and that's why he has less rating. If you play Oxy's roles, you're going to get more kills and more deaths.
If you play Shahz's roles, you're going to get less kills and less deaths. That is why they have the same rating.

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catNmouse
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how many of those 800 kills are impact kills?

a player with 660 kills can be impactful than someone with 800, you would have to look at the context

#6
Maniacwolf
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This is just untrue 💀

#11
mondely
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KAST and ACS are better ngl

#14
catNmouse
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I DISAGREE with ACS

#15
mondely
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feels like i been in so many arguments with u lately tomNjerry

#16
catNmouse
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initiator players don’t have very high ACS often if at all compared to duelists, same thing with your sentinel player depending on what type of playstyle they have

#21
mondely
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yeh which is why u look at kast because a duelist tends to have lower kast due to dying first and not being traded at times.

#12
Ross
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Brother just told us he doesn’t understand Val or statistics in one statement. Impressive

#13
sexwithgiraffes
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val rating is pretty bad but pure kills is not a good metric either

#17
JonahPork
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You’re getting hate for your example but ur lowkey right. I mean anyone who watched NA VCL in 2023 would never claim that OXY and Shahz were on the same level individually that year

#18
Invic_Deep
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It's fine but I like to use it with ADR metric bcz to me avg
damage per round is very fair metric add kast and if seeing support roles assists per round anyone who scored high in all 3 will be absolute best player in the level he is playing and there's no example with which you can deny this criteria in any level or league of valorant

#19
MrHyphon
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I use eye test

#20
dimmed
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No stat is ever going to be perfectly the value a player, rating isn't the be all end all. I mean you literally can't measure space creation using raitng but it still does give a better measure of the value a player bring than ACS

#22
king_bob
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we love ACS in this household fuck the babies that are too scared to shoot their gun cus theyre playing flappy bird on their smokes ipad or are doing advanced trig on their sova lineups

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