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Most disappointing teams for kickoff?

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MachiDesu

From AMER has to be Loud and Sen for me.

I liked all the names on LOUD, in hindsight keeping robbiebk probably was the move. Lukxo was the only bright spot on this team and darker at times but Virtyy and pancada were very lackluster

Sen played well during the offseason with “little” practice and I was expecting a big jump but narrate and Cortez has been a big letdown in terms of performance, along with kyu’s calling. Given time they could definitely improve but I was expecting a top half finish.

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kc

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also geng
prx
drg
fpx
tl

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MachiDesu
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I definitely agree with the FPX one. Idk what happened with them

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9wntr
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i thought i was "harsh" putting them only 5th
lmao

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catNmouse
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LOUD wasn’t that disappointing imo

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MachiDesu
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My expectations for them weren’t high by any means but watching some of their maps genuinely made me sad at times especially with the calling and macro lol I really liked the names on this roster

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Germy
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yeah same, like the roster on paper makes me want them to do well but they just fumbled in every way

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InYourDreams
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KC - Practically thought they were gonna be good but nothing changed some old classic KC
Navi & FS - Insane regression from starting in hot and flashy

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For KC, you think it’s a coach thing. Didn’t watch much of EMEA, but like their breeze and haven comp is just bad imo.

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i mean their most standard comp is abyss and they 13-2'd both teams they played on it

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Germy
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for navi and FS i think their star players just started out ridiculously hot (hiro and primmie) and the second they start to stumble the entire team falls apart

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pommebleue
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Navi

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poiuu20
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dfm they should not go that far

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SadQwesz
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Gentle Mates, they haven't choked a map yet

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poiuu20
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i mean they still havnt got far enough to reach international level like idk bbl or fnc

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WildSouls
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I'd have to say Geng, Heretics,and Envy. Envy because they couldn't even last one tier 1 event before blowing the roster.

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catNmouse
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heretics can still make santiago tbf don’t count them out

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can? TH ARE making santiago

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x_knowitall39_x
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geng imo. losing to GE and dfm and having that close of a series against varrel was heart breaking. I do believe all of the player (-ash) are good but man was kickoff rough

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catNmouse
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they’ll be okay in stage 1, i believe in their bounce back

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MachiDesu
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From my pov it’s definitely the calling that causes alot of inconsistency, solo definitely needs to work a lot with Lakia to improve it prior to stage 1

I’m curious to what if they just bring foxy9 back in for the senti role and swap Karon back to full smokes

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x_knowitall39_x
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wouldnt be surprised if they tried that yeah, every split they seem to make roster changes if the results arent what they wanted. yoman for ash, foxy9 for Suggest for foxy9 again, etc. karon is doing good on senti but I would rather him go back to smokes and have either zynx or foxy9 play senti and the other plays duelist

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MachiDesu
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I forgot zynx was a senti player prior so maybe bring in a flex for ash if you do make changes

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Germy
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idk losing to GE is more of a positive for GE to me, like udotan was never on my radar prior to TODAY and now i feel like he could be the truth. autumn i could tell was good from his time on fpx but today he shined very brightly too which im happy about

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Most def Gen.G and FPX

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kyro1
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geng, fpx, prx, kc

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Sen
Envy
TL

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Gen.G if only because if roles were correct (ZynX senti, Karon smokes, Ash second duelist) they would’ve likely done much better

SEN went out badly but i feel like the hopes shouldn’t have been that high to begin with

PRX with invy just look regressed

DRG super disappointing because they only lose due to horrible comps

KC i thought was going to be an instant contender at internationals but they might have some of the worst teamplay next to loud. Easily the most disappointing team

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