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Why Chronicle or Ethan can’t be the GOAT

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Pomshies

They’ve never even been the best player in the world. How can you be the greatest of all time if you’ve never been the greatest at any single moment in your career??

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havent been as consistent as aspas
theyre top 3 though

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Alfajer greater than both and Ethan not top 5 imo

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ethan is the only player to win champs twice

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yes but he’s also never been a top 15 player itw individually it just makes no sense to me for someone who hasn’t even been even been a top 15 player to be in the goat debate

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kfan4238173
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chronicle was berlin mvp btw and the best player itw at that time

#19
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that’s just not true

#20
kfan4238173
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look it up lil bro

#21
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I did and no such mvp exists and even if it did it wouldn’t prove he was the best player itw at that time

#22
kfan4238173
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https://i.ibb.co/pBXvMyWq/image-1769718311019.png
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/Statistics

lock in bro google isnt so hard to use

#27
Pomshies
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yeah thats just someone spreading misinformation on internet in fact I’m pretty sure there wasn’t even an official mvp for masters Berlin

#24
DELIDOGAMING
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Winning an international doesn't make you too great , even Zellsis has won an international , do you think he is better than Mako or Kaajak or Valyn, JonahP, trent or even leaf?Yes, Ethan can be considered one of the greatest players and maybe the current best Flash ini of AMERICAS but that doesn't make him better than Alfa or Aspas everywhere, Alfa flexes on two completely different roles and is fabuolous in both of them and Aspas has made every dogsh!t team go crazy.

#4
uwukitten
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the first time aspas was the best player itw was champs 2025 and I can guarantee you were calling him the goat before that

#29
notnorte
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outlier bro, ethan wasnt in the conversation right behind yay, kk, demon1 at previous champs while aspas was

#6
Yistyy
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you're right, maybe its time to re-enter demon1 in the conversation.

#7
Cerati
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the common factor is them, when a team wins an international competition, which of them is the common factor?same as boaster

#8
sentinelmain377
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ppl are arguing not because of which player they think is the "GOAT", but because they have different definitions of "GOAT"

#12
Pomshies
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yeah and imo people need to stop overvaluing trophies in their definitions of goat

#26
Wolfed
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TRUTH

#25
Wolfed
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TRUTH

#9
bay_z
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Statpass

#10
wizurdsss
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lmaoo

#11
wizurdsss
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why not just goats of their roles

#14
sentinelmain377
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this is the best path to go on

#15
alienista1
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so you finally stopped putting derke above aspas?

#17
sentinelmain377
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months ago (after champs 2025)

#23
wizurdsss
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exactly

#16
Maniacwolf
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Ethan is top 10 for sure, but he’s not the goat

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