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#1
Acethyr

please sign sinatraa man, i dont care if he doesnt wanna play force him to

this guy is genuinely really good
fuck the shitty past false accusations

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let him stream in peace brother

#3
Arun777
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sinatra can only play raze and sova lol

#5
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brawk only played sova with a pinch of vyse and he is a world champion

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cirruss
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brawk is actually good and proven in t1. plus sinatraa is pretty bad for pr

#11
Badger8424
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he fits envy perfectly, keznit and babyj on that team they have plenty of controversy

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cirruss
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Neither of these are nearly as big as sinatraa. BabyJ is just toxic and keznit is racist, but so are a lot of other people

#18
backslider
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I think being racist is relative to being a male manipulator

#13
Acethyr
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while i do agree that brawk is proven in t1,

he wasnt proven when he was signed, same as sinatraa

#20
cirruss
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Brawk was absolutely proven in t2. he had a ton of experience and made an effort to play in challengers, while sinatraa hasn't done anything other than play ranked for almost 4 years

#22
Acethyr
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yeah im saying he wasnt proven in t1 when he was picked up

#23
cirruss
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Winning a masters in 2021 and never playing again is neither proven either. plus, what role could you possibly put him on? They don't need a duelist and p0ppin is already the recon player.

#24
Acethyr
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youre right tbh,
but i can see him learning other agents

#26
cirruss
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if you're signing someone for the talent that you know will already be temporary, there is no reason to sign unless he's gonna slot right into a role that he is comfy with

#8
twigster001
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there's a difference between playing recon agents (there's two) and having to know a vast agent pool in order to get picked up by a tier 1 team

#9
Wolfed
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shrike dash, why are you not defending NRG brawk?

#12
shrike-
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This isn’t a dig on brawk, i’m trying to dispel the point that you need to have a crazy agent pool in order to be good

i fear not the man who has practiced 1000 kicks once, but the man who has practiced one kick 1000 times

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Wolfed
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fair! i also think theres not really a need for a large agent pool as a recon player, since there are only 2 recon agents; that plays a role

#17
twigster001
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i fear not the man who has practiced 1000 kicks once, nor do i fear the man that practices the one non-meta kick 1000 times

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shrike-
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this would be a valid point if that “non-meta” agent didn’t earn brawk a world championship mvp

#21
twigster001
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if your point is about not needing a big agent pool, it doesn't really work here because brawk just spammed odin in a way nobody else did. He's not a particularly special / trendsetting sova, he just really knows how to use odin

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but thats proving my point

brawk is incredible with the odin not just because he is great at using the gun as is (if this was all it took then you’d be right) but because he is an incredible sova, he spends hours in the lab coming up with lineups specifically to pair with the odin, paired with his already extensive reps with the agent outside of his odin usage

some other examples are yay chamber and less viper; if you’re incredible with just one or two agents, why change? you can find a way to win if one of your players can execute plays because of their mastery of a specific agent

#30
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Before I start, I want to say that brawk doesn't need a big agent pool since he technically only needs to know Fade and Sova.

I think that brawk's odin mastery comes down to 50% gimmicky lineups and 50% of having more reps on the gun, which are both things that can easily be done by other teams. At some point, teams will start learning and adapting.

I think that comparing brawk's sova to yay's chamber or less's viper is a bit of a stretch. I get the idea, but comparing a gimmicky recon to the leader of the most broken meta in the game + arguably the most consistently picked controller in the history of the game is a bit crazy.

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so? its a role issue you expect envy to play raze every map? what about poppin? if sinatra signs then poppin cant play recon, never said its a skill issue, sinatra doesnt fit envy roles

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ENVY literally has nothing to lose by signing him, you don't have your two star players, you will likely not win enough to keep a spot, just gamble on Sinatraa bc his upside is higher than any other F/A on the market.

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Acethyr
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they have to try to get him
this is wasted talent

#10
Rakooon
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There is no role to put him in, let it go bro

#14
koromast
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ngl i would get sinatraa over rossy any day but he already reached a verbal agreement

#25
foythvlr
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bro does fairly well on a offseason match against a pug T2 squad and people start asking him on T1 😭😭😭😭 can't make this shit up

#27
Acethyr
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tbh its hella recency bias lol

but i also just wanna see him on a team cause i feel bad for the guy
false accusations are horrible

#28
foythvlr
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well maybe if he was good he would be on a team idk

#31
Acethyr
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Nah this isn’t about him being good or bad

He just didn’t wanna play and it would be bad PR

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