Should Riot give GC winner

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TheFumbler

a spot in t1?
I personally believe SRG could decimate the bottom half of the teams in AMERICAS. They have everything, a solid igl, a solid sentinel (Noia) and a good duelist and flex. They would ideally destroy teams like FUR, LOUD, 100T (?), SEN, LEV and ENVY. And now before you talk about their performance in t2 I want you to understand that t2 and t1 are very different and a team in t2 would struggle in t1 and vice versa. From eye test alone I think SRG should get a chance in t1 before y'all form your opinions.

Thoughts?

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a spot in t1

https://imgur.com/gallery/speed-i-need-thisss-Dl28J7b

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gc kinda homeless ahh

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wNoble

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ambrosia was like 14-15th in t2 btw https://www.vlr.gg/460581/ambrosia-vs-shopify-rebellion-gold-challengers-league-2025-north-america-ace-stage-1-rel/?game=208110&tab=overview

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nah you evil for posting that on ragebait account lmfaoooo😭

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TheFumbler

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ya lets link a match from the dinosaur era and prove nothing. Teams evolve lil bro.

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wNoble

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yea 2x GC world champs btw losing 13-0 to ambrosia
lol ur funny

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https://www.vlr.gg/543173/shopify-rebellion-gold-vs-prosperity-esports-challengers-2025-north-america-ace-stage-3-r3
https://www.vlr.gg/543170/shopify-rebellion-gold-vs-burger-boyz-challengers-2025-north-america-ace-stage-3-r2
https://www.vlr.gg/543169/sad-esports-vs-shopify-rebellion-gold-challengers-2025-north-america-ace-stage-3-r1
https://www.vlr.gg/540303/tsm-vs-shopify-rebellion-gold-funhavergg-back-to-basics-2-qf
so does every other team 😭

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Teams evolve

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Not the gc ones

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keep your thoughts to yourself next time

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Just say you're scared they would destroy NRG and its fine. SRG have also won trophies (multiple) so NRG losing wouldnt be that embarrassing

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if nrg had to play with blindfolds on i guess i could agree

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Ah I see. NRG flukes once and their fans turn delusional like those SEN fans but dont you worry son, you will soon be humbled once the regular season starts

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some of u gc glazers are so delusional, this team was beaten by the shit teams from t2

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🤓

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would probably still lose

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LouBag

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bro is trying super hard to troll.

1/8

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WHAHHAHAAHHHAHAAHHA

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foythvlr

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4 stars and still posting like this just for the love of the game

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t2 yes. t1 absolutely not lmao

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“Decimate the bottom half of Americas”

https://www.vlr.gg/543173/shopify-rebellion-gold-vs-prosperity-esports-challengers-2025-north-america-ace-stage-3-r3

https://www.vlr.gg/543170/shopify-rebellion-gold-vs-burger-boyz-challengers-2025-north-america-ace-stage-3-r2

https://www.vlr.gg/543169/sad-esports-vs-shopify-rebellion-gold-challengers-2025-north-america-ace-stage-3-r1

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Like I said t1 and t2 play style is very different and SRG leans more towards t1 play style. Imagine if SEN or 100T played in ascension, they wouldnt win because the game is played differently. SRG would thrive in t1, maybe not be a top 5 team but can surely beat the bottom 5 teams. Trust me

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bait used to be believable

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their play doesnt matter when ur macro is gonna get destroyed by t1 teams, also u should stop watching vct for the sake of it " imagine sen or 100t played in ascension they wouldnt win because game is played differently", Though they would not definitely win there tbh but its not because the playstyle is different, rather they would lead there in terms of macro play and also they would atleast beat the teams from t2

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https://www.vlr.gg/582446/sentinels-vs-envy-sen-city-classic-2025-gf (Against the ascension WINNERS)

https://www.vlr.gg/582438/envy-vs-sentinels-sen-city-classic-2025-d2 (Against the ascension winners AGAIN)

https://www.vlr.gg/459538/sentinels-vs-loud-champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1-w4 (Against the higher rated Ascension player)

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so?
ENVY winning ascension involved a lot of luck being on their side. Just because you beat the champs winner doesnt mean you're better than them. If Sen or 100T played the entire ascension tournament they would be getting eliminated in the lower bracket and you know it.

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GC Sponsored ahh take

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i like how youre choosing sen and 100t which are mid-table teams when not a single gc team could even beat eg

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TheFumbler

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You wont believe it until you see it and you wont see it until riot lets them. I cant prove it to you that they deserve a spot.

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MrHyphon

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And we can prove that they DONT deserve a spot

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TheFumbler

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No you cant. Let them play against fucking Furia and EG and then you'll surely change your mind.

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MrHyphon

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Because if they “deserved” to make it to t1 they would go and win t2, because no shit that’s how you get into t1

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SRG didn't even perform well in tier 2. They would be worse than apeks and furia in tier 1.

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TheFumbler

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like c'mon bro, you yourself dont believe in what you wrote. Its fine if you speak the truth, lying to be funny is not cool bro

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They can't get past 3 teams in challengers lmao

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eStos

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weak bait

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TheFumbler

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how is this a bait if majority of the valorant pros agree to it

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poiuu20

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as i say thats called lip service like do you tell the truth to kids that delusional santa exist?

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Kaust

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"Guys a team that got smoked in tier 2 would decimate the bottom half of Americas teams and could potentially destroy NRG!"
"What do you mean they got beat by a team called Burger Boyz? Teams evolve"

Yeah broski pack up the bags

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they even in top 3 in gc rn and team that won two time yeah im not convinced😭

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TYLOO would smoke them

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poiuu20

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smoke? they will obliterate them lmao

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The only thing tyloo is obliterating are their monitors after a humiliating defeat

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They would absolutely bury them lol

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brother they would be worse than 2025 furia

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TheFumbler

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No

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That's kinda hard as fuck... but I can't disagree on this one

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Ykw they could have them fight for a slot in champs this year along with the other ascension teams that way the tournament actually means something and gc players get to play against top tier 2 teams

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SRG constantly gets into relegation/eliminated in VCL NA so yeah no it would be a wild discrepancy

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Consider these two tweets, the girls are pretty realistic on their position, we should be too:

https://x.com/sarah_frags/status/1980686294087881001?s=20
https://x.com/melanji/status/1923167411303317668?s=20

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TheFumbler

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Times changed. They are now more ready than ever. Give them one chance and watch the world burn

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Not sure if you watched the series today but it is pretty clear they fall flat on their playbook / strats and in some moments, the aim wasn't there either. To be T1 you need to ascend which means consistently beating T2 teams. They only have 1 win outside of qualifiers.

I also feel like I fell for the interaction bait (as did many others). We can check in again on the best GC team in a year if they make any progress in T2.

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i mean it would be cool asf but they are not that good