How I'd restructure VCT if they made me the owner

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16 teams in all regions, 64 teams all across the world and 4 internationals instead of 3
The first priority to fill these slots would be so each region has more representation
The second would be invite all previos org's who've won in valorant but arent in it anymore (eg OpTic, Acend, Gambit)
The third would be already present promising T2 orgs who've always fallen short of Ascending (eg M80, TSM etc)

Masters #1 - 4 teams per region

  • Top 4 from kickoff qualify
  • it'll be played out like how champs is played out currently

Masters #2 - 6 teams per region

  • Top 6 from stage 1 qualify
  • Instead of the current play style where its 3 teams from the region, 2 get to play in swiss while the first seed is already through to the playoffs, this tournament would make it so the bottom 2 seeds from each region start in the lower bracket (just like in stage 2)

Guardians - 3 teams per region [NEW INTERNATIONAL]

  • Another Kickoff for stage 2 will be held
  • Top 3 teams qualify
  • Will be played exactly how has Masters #2 is played currently

Champs - 8 teams per region

  • all 32 teams would be split up into groups of 8 (2 teams per region) and play the group stage
  • the top 4 teams from each region would then qualify into the playoffs

Ascension - 2 teams per region qualify into VCT

  • This is where i do my own thing, Each Org will be given a 1 year contract that'd be resigned each year
  • The bottom 2 teams would be replaced with the 2 Ascending teams in their region
    This'd make it so each region has no stinker teams. theres gonna be new teams every year and Tier2 feels rewarding for the Orgs and Teams involved

The first ascension team would be determined through obviosly winning ascenion
The second one would be through an LCQ format tournament, with 1 team being from Teir3 (to fill in the slot for the ascending team), winner earns the spot

All these changes would it make it so there are very little breaks in the VCT circuit, Pro's are always competeing and Fans always have something to cheer for - shorten the time between stages and matches, same goes for the tournaments too
The VCT would start in January and end with champs and end within October or November - The rest of the time would be given to GC and T2

(Dont really watch GC otherwise i wouldve written something for it too)

Lmk what ya'll think :D

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natalieeeee
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8 teams per region too expensive to run, also do we really want 2025 EG/100T at internationals

#3
WjFROST
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Yes.

#21
sh1lll
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Yes but it’s ironic coming from a tulip fan

#25
natalieeeee
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tyloo is making champs this year.

#4
flyingthundercod
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so we're assuming an unlimited budget, because this sounds great, but god damn it would be expensive asf

#5
WjFROST
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I mean realistically they aint making me the owner so no harm in dreaming

#6
flyingthundercod
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that's fair

#8
tonyhart
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Yeah thats why you open a third party tournament, this is so facking braindead

give Blast and ESL rights to host tournament and they would fix a lot of T1 and T2 issue immediately

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tonyhart
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motherfcker says restructure but he only add more slot

#9
BerLINglazer
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so we gonna just make all the player and coaches labour non stop throughout the whole year

#16
WjFROST
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I mean some pro's complain about not getting to play enough. This gives them more chances to play

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Castawaytwizz
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those poor players are being pushed to their limits with 13 BO3s a year 😿😿

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lexover
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bro is making a fromat so g2 can choke more internationals

#12
WjFROST
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Nah im making one so SEN dont make any

#18
lexover
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g2 players gona burn out after one year of making finals and loosing every time idk how your format fits in off time like players are gonna burn out constantly

#19
WjFROST
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Bro youre just mad that every time you play us you get dogwalked and bitch slapped, its fine you'll get us someday

#22
lexover
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atleast we win trophies

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Yistyy
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So basically you just want champs to be lock in. this basically just makes regionals completely useless all year.

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WjFROST
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How does it make them useless?

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Yistyy
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because teams won't have to try at all to earn circuit points if they pretty much auto qualify for champs.

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Half the teams qualify for champs, You gotta be in the top half of your region to qualify for the biggest tournament of the year and i think thats fair, more teams get chances to qual but at the end of the day only 1 wins

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some teams like g2 won't even have to try, and will just be able to coast to champs. this will decrease the level of play significantly and will just makes regular season matches feel like glorified scrims.

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Sure, but on the other hand teams who always fall short just by a little bit finally get to make it through, and no team's end goal is to qualify for champs, they all wanna win it
No ones gonna praise a team for "qualifying" to champs anymore instead theres just gonna be praise for the Top placing teams

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Yistyy
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it's definitely a trade-off but personally i think more emphasis needs to be put on the regular season than the opposite. i think regional championships are already treated as mickey and what you're proposing will even further that.

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Get rid off Ascencion, after each kickoff/stage, include the bottom 4 teams in the challenger tournament of the region, and get the top 4 teams from that tournament to join, it would give more interest to tier 2 as well as big motivation for the worst teams in VCT to perform

#26
KishiMishiVT
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this is dumb why would we need more memea fuckers

#27
glittering_yard
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8 per region? Thats almost the whole league everywhere

You might aswell just bring Lockin back and invite every single team while you're at it

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marnd
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i think i’d only make fpx play

#30
StalwartTiger_35
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2/3 of the teams getting an invite doesn't sound very prestigious but maybe that's just me. i dont hate the idea but defo not for champs and probably not annually

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16 teams in all regions, 64 teams all across the world and 4 internationals instead of 3

I disagree more team mean slice are smaller. I can accept to increase the number of place, only if it's "temporary ascention" for a T2 team.
What I can accept is for exemple :
Kickoff per scrimpool in each Tier 2 region --> Each top 1 (APAC/AMER) or Each top 4 (China+EMEA) qualify --> Tier 1 Kickoff with parter team. Quadruple elim (Wish mean 4 min game theory and 8 max game theory with 4 team qual)

Masters #1 - 4 teams per region

I can accept that

Masters #2 - 6 teams per region Ridiculous,

Thats too mush, it's good that both master have the same number of team, 4 team is good.

Instead of the current play style where its 3 teams from the region, 2 get to play in swiss while the first seed is already through to the playoffs, this tournament would make it so 2 teams already qualify to the playoffs (being seed 1 and 2) while the bottom 4 teams have to play swiss

I dislike this part, as we can see team that come from playin have kinda an advantage. If you make a tournament with 24 team here is what should be done :
Make a swiss round, after 3 round you have :

  • 3 team in 3-0 that are qualified
  • 9 team in 2-1 that will play for the 5 last spot (Either the best 2-1 receive a by, or the best 1-2 team is saved)
  • 9 team in 1-2
  • 3 team in 0-3
    This is almost perfect and way better

Guardians - 3 teams per region [NEW INTERNATIONAL]

Sorry but that will be EWC, we need to be realistic about the money call there

Champs - 8 teams per region

This is absolutely insane. But if you include a T2 qualifier... I think I might like it...

This is where i do my own thing, Each Org will be given a 1 year contract that'd be resigned each year

Automatic relegation is absolutely evil, you cant do that. The 2 best T2 team in champ stay seemsmore sane.

The second one would be through an LCQ format tournament, with 1 team being from Teir3 (to fill in the slot for the ascending team), winner earns the spot

I don't understand that part.

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Here is my proposition :
10 partner team, no ascension team for first part of the year

  • T2 Kickoff, 6 team team qualify (5 EU-TR-CIS, 1 MENA, 6 CHINA, 2 SEA, 1 JP, 1 KR, 1 OCE, 1SA, 2 NA, 2BR, 1LAN, 1LAS)
  • T1 16 team Quadruple elim backet, top 4 qualify
  • Master 1, 16 teams
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  • T2 Split 1, the team that did went to T1 last split, they are directly qualified to playoff and dont play regular season, 6 team team qualify (1 TR, 1 CIS, 3 EU, 1 MENA, 6 CHINA, 2 SEA, 1 JP, 1 KR, 1 OCE, 1SA, 2 NA, 2 BR, 1 LAN, 1 LAS)
  • T1 16 team Quadruple elim backet, top 4 qualify
  • Master 2, 16 teams
    ___
  • T2 Split 2, the team that did went to T1 last split, they are directly qualified to playoff and dont play regular season, 6 team team qualify (1 TR, 1 CIS, 3 EU, 1 MENA, 6 CHINA, 2 SEA, 1 JP, 1 KR, 1 OCE, 1SA, 2 NA, 2BR, 1LAN, 1LAS)
  • T1 16 team Quadruple elim backet, top 4 qualify
  • EWC, 16 teams
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  • T2 Split 3 (In same period than T1, not before this time), 8 T2 team qualify in each region (1.5 TR, 1.5 CIS, 3.5 EU, 1.5 MENA, 8 CHINA, 3 SEA, 1.5 JP, 1.5 KR, 1 OCE, 1 SA, 2 NA, 2BR, 2LAN, 2LAS)
  • T1 : Unique split with 12 teams, unique group (The top T2 team during the year are qualified with the 10 partner team, this replaces ascension), top 3 go to champions, 1 teams are qualified with point during the year, 8 other go in LCQ
  • LCQ 16 team Quadruple elim backet, top 4 qualify : with best team in split receiving a bye (5th directly in final), and worst team starting low, top 8 qual
  • Champs with 8 team from each regions, 32 teams
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    LCQ Détail option 1 :
  • 5th start with 3W
  • 6th start with 2W1L
  • 7th and 8th start with 1W1L
  • 9th to 12th start with 1L
  • 8 T2 teams start with 0W, 0L
    ___
    LCQ Détail option 2 (less game to have a shorter schedule) :
  • 5th you start with 3W
  • 6th to 8th start with 2W1L
  • 9th to 11th start with 1W2L
  • 12th start with 3L
  • 8 T2 teams start with 0W, 0L
    ___
    Alternative option :
  • We keep 2 or 3 ascention team all the year, with 10 or 9 partner team, but we only have 4 T2 team that qualify to T1, 1 per scrimpool in APAC/AMER, top 4 in EMEA/CHINA (So 3EU-CIS-TR, 1ME, 1NA, 1BR, 1LAN, 1LAS, 1JPKR, 1SEA, 1OCE, 1SA, 4CHINA), I prefer the other option since we can control the number of slot for each region during the year

Will it cost more money ? No because you dont have to organise ANY Tier 2 offline event, everything is online, the only thing that coast a little bit more is the Chapions with 32 teams, but I dont think that would cost so mush more

#32
WjFROST
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Damn i shouldve added more detail when i wrote ts, mb gang but these ideas are really good im gonna edit the post to make it more detailed

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Anguibok
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Dont ediiit ! give an update it's gonna be better, be sure to message me when you do

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