Iso balance | VLR.gg

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Anguibok

I think I have the vision to how make Iso more sane for the game, and I think you all gonna complain because out of the box solution arent popular :X

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TlIWyoSIFVw

tldw ;

Kill contract : Nerf hard but Become signature (No supress, No mark, Easier to dodge like Breach spell)
Double tap : Become ultimate Reverse the nerf of double tap (Or at least give him the reset back if you think 20sec is too long)

Double tap is cancer since it's remove a weapon from the entire game, it's okay if it's an ult but not a basic spell, it's now as cancer as Neon ult, to match with other duelist
Kill contract because the équivalent of fault line for Breach
(I could go with the idea of completely removing Double tap from the game and replace it by a real dive ability, but the idea was to rebalance without creating new spell)

So my question go to Iso player, what would you think of this change ? Non-Iso player any thoutgt or proposition of improvement ?

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hell nah unc keep ts in the shop 💀💀

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At least call me aunt Megh :c

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hold on ur actually cooking

kill contract seems little too strong when ur anti ecoing tho

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what? so i can literally steal a player at the start of every round and get a free kill

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No, "Easier to dodge like Breach spell"
If it's "free" then we upgrade the time to proc to make it even more dodgeable, we just need a mechanic to dodge it (And if you get hit it's a 1v1 and you can still use spell)

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That still doesn't excuse the fact that you are able to grab someone every single round

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Anguibok

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No if they can dodge ? I rather being iso ult every single round that breach stun every single roung, 1 have afair 1v1 in one case, an a potential unfair 1v5 in another

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DBStudios

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Yeah so let's have the ability to grab the enemy team's sentinel and shut down their util every single round! What a great idea! Now instead of actually being able to hold your site you're going to have to play hopscotch if you play against an iso! Sooo much better than a breach stun! So fair too!

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Again "No supress, No mark, Easier to dodge like Breach spell"
So no ;

Sentinel can dodge this spell (and keep their util)
Even if Sentinel get catch since they are no supress, they can still use their stuff.
If you get catch every single round despite having mechanics to make it dodgeable, then you are the problem

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Sentinel can dodge this spell (and keep their util)

So they still can't play off their util? the main point of being a sentinel?

If you get catch every single round despite having mechanics to make it dodgeable, then you are the problem

You can say that for anything in this game lmfao, if you think breach stun is op then you should js dodge it

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No I dont think Breach falt line is OP thats the reason why I say kill contract balanced to be as OP as fault line is balance ?

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Kill contract signature #keeptsunc 😭😭

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A nerfed kill contract where the goal is to make it have the impact of Breach's Fault line.
I do think you can balance this ability to be balance as a signature, with increasing the time to dodge (or add any dodge mecanics), wich is not the case of double tap that cant be an everyround spell because it's removes ope

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PandaZ

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kim jong un take this one back

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MrBlooBloom

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I think iso is perfectly balanced

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arctic permafrost cold take

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Acethyr

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bro called it a spell

i think they should just make it so double tap doesnt make a sound, kills his viability imo

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if you give me an iso ult every round im becoming the best valorant player in the world

#13

Anguibok

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The goal is to make is as good as Breach falt line, so beside you are an Immo Breach theeeen

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Laundry

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cool idea, i like👍need more balance but very fun idea

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Anguibok

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Thanks a lot !
I just think it's more fun to play against the ult than the double tap, maybe i'm wrong but if thats the case, then this have a chance to not be dum

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I disagree. Double tap is easy to jiggle, spam, or break with utility, or even just wait out. But the ult taking you out of the map just completely fucks with everything

I would be willing to bet that the rounds where double tap saves an Iso are fewer than the rounds where dash saves Jett or refract saves Waylay

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The problem of double tap is that it singlehandedly remove 3 weapon of they whole game for the full map (And one of the top 3 most pick weapon), wish isnt sane, especially if they are agent that reliable on them, if we would have a draft it would be manageable, but not the cast. In the other hand the ult is just a 1v1, where even a chamber have a chance to win since he can keep his ult and they are no doulbe tap if no ult, and can be balanced by the fact you increase the proc time to allow people to dodge it.

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GarbanzoEnjoyer

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It really doesn't remove them though; and even then, running Iso as a shotgun/awp counter-pick means you are giving up all other utility that a 5th flex spot would bring. It's a fair tradeoff

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I'm notsaying he is too strong,

I'm saying that removing a full weapon when 3 are viable, is not sane for the game
I'm saying making countering specific agent like Chamber when they are no draft or swap isnt sane. The first Tejo Nerf was to make him stop destroying KJ ult with a signature ability, Iso can do the same and have a free pass wish is a problem :/

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this is incredbily stupid if im not misinterperting it which i think i am

does this mean his ult will become his signature ability meaning he can pull anyone in a 1v1 for his ult?

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A full nerfed ult that is dodgeable and will be balance to have the same impact as Breach fault line, since it's easier to dodge, no, he will not pulkl a 1v1 everyround ^^.
Also, I think we all overestimate the fact he as a 1v1 without a sheild and without a suppress, it's a 50-50, it's way less punitive that if you get catch by a Breach fault line, since the 1v1 is fair, where the stun isnt.

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GarbanzoEnjoyer

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Iso is fine as is especially when you have coaches talking about the awp being overpowered lol

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Anguibok

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Still less pick than Vandal to be fair I really hate the idea of making unplayable one of the 5 weapon

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why they calling you unc gang

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Anguibok

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I think thats because i'm an old lady

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keep ts in the workshop

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SleepingSnorlax

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Stop reading after kill contract

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this shit gotta be the most ass balance ever
this is not out of the box
you just switched 2 abilities but 1 of them is an ultimate

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Anguibok

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I did more than that my bro

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not really

#38

Anguibok

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(No supress, No mark, Easier to dodge like Breach spell)

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this is like having a salad and you took out a few bits of lettuce

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Anguibok

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Thats still balance

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not out of the box like you said.

#44

Anguibok

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Swapping an ult and a signature and rebalance them to make them actual ult/signature, is something that, so far, I never saw anyone propose it to other people

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a bad idea doesn't make it an out of the box idea :D
you dont see anyone propose raze gets a nerfed bazooka as a signature and a buffed grenade as her ult (Because its a stupid bad idea)

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Anguibok

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An out of the box idea can be good or bad,tou said it wasn't out of the box I proved it was the cae.

You didn't give any argument so far why the idea is bad :X

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propredicter

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never cook again

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sexocum

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hell nah leave it as is
i mean it is an aim agent so whatever