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#1
Shadrach

we need fo talk about him

Yes his util is good, but you need to hit shot too..

He needs to step up in terms of shooting if prx want to win the whole thing.. many round wasted because he cant hit his shot.. and you cant rely all on clutch situation..

Hope he will fix this for next march

#2
CrackedDuelist
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ascent attacker side pistol

#3
Catsupz
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stfu his 1v1 on last map half was the decider and you can see both sova was having a hard time this map i think there is a correlation here

#22
Shadrach
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If he hit some more shot it that decider will not be that vital... and hes the better sova but not the better shoter in this series

#34
InYourDreams
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Is this patmen defense? Then I am sorry this is worse than people who used to defend something on sova

#4
Mingu
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he played fine wdym

#14
Shadrach
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I dont say he play bad, hes util is on point as usual, but there are some moment he need to hit his shot so they dont drag out the match

#5
TSbestfan
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he have 4 aimers on the team and new ICE MAN. He can chill no talking needed

#11
tonyhart
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nah, he almost lost PRX

You cant show in 1 round and then ghost for 90% of the game
if forsaken didnt drop nuclear there, it would been G2 win

#23
Prase
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He is the reason Prx have won some games in Toronto too. A coin has two sides so let’s chill

#32
tonyhart
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no he is not

1 kill and 1 assist as sova in ascent is diabolical

stop saying shit like this, life as athete and competitor is not like this, having a weak mindset would not get you far

#33
Mebi
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Weak mindset is crumbling under pressure when you under perform. Patmen was still trying his best all the way until the end.

If you want to talk about him causing PRX to almost lose because he underperformed, we can also say forsaken threw so many rounds with his ult to CT spawn on Corrode and getting wrecked every time. We can also say leaf was the one making the Ascent game close. Without him PRX might have steamrolled the map. There's always 2 sides.

This is a team game, there are days where some players underperform individually, there are days were some guy goes nuclear and hard carry. That's how the game goes. Take a chill pill dude.

#35
tonyhart
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noo because forsaken is the one who keep holding the game

those mistake is because he need to make plays because standard play dont work in 5v3
why you acting like 1 kill and 1 assist on sova ascent is defendable???? they literally would not win champ if they dont fix those

#38
Mebi
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There was a round on B I believe it was a 4v4 or 5v5 and he just sent it for no reason and got caught. They could just play site so he could be traded.

I'm defending a bad half because that is not the norm for him. And it has something to do with the strats as well. Their positioning was horrible with gaps that leaf was able to capitalise on so often. You are flaming a person for having a BAD HALF on ONE map.

If everybody was like you, nobody would have picked up Jemkin after he got 0 kills against Bleed in Ascension 2023 on ONE WHOLE MAP.

#41
tonyhart
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why we keep acting like jemkin didnt ghost for 80% of the time in international ??????

#42
tonyhart
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oh yes because having a 1 rounds impact really does excuse for 90% of the time he lose the duel

no shit sherlock, he better win those duel since he literally got 1 assist in 8 - 4 rounds where you play an agent that can give you easy assist

#45
Mebi
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You keep writing this 1 kill 1 assist like a broken record when you haven't even make a good argument against my points of weak mental and having bad games being normal for players. You're just tunneling into your own point for one half out of a BO3 and repeating it without any other good arguments to make. Grow up dude.

And for Jemkin, at least he made 2 internationals on a tier 1 team because people believed in him despite his lows, and he did show up in regionals lifting a Pacific trophy, beating teams like PRX and GenG in the process, even if he does shit the bed in internationals.

#37
KssS
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silver ass take. your util can still have impact even if it doesnt grant assists on the stats.

like clearing crucial corner with your owl drone or dart just to confirm if there is a guy playing there. even if it doesnt grant an assist its still impact

#43
tonyhart
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oh yes he is having as much impact as kill joy turret, I agree

#44
tonyhart
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silver would not having 1 kill and 1 assist in 12 rounds

#39
quanxi
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forsaken d rider zip it up when ure done dud

#6
mulyondoindon
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he has his moment dude. I truly believe next year he will unshackled all of that nervousness

#7
Genesis_0
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i understand where ure coming from. Ignore peeps above me.
But there are few gunfights to win when other 4 take all other kills.
yes he has not been hitting as before, but its bound to happen, ups downs, Hes got this

#30
tonyhart
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You mean his team got this, he literally got 1 kill in 8 - 4 ascent

#8
makiitto
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I think most of it is not an aim problem but just his playstyle, since the others usually contact enemies first and end up killing all of them. He doesn't need to fight cuz his team literally does the aim duels for him

#9
TheAceGamer30
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He won them a vital pistol which practically won them the series

#13
okboxx
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exactly man 1v1 against trent and u win that dont ever slander my goat big P

#16
tonyhart
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Your goat literally got 1 kill in 8 - 4 bro

stop saying this shit because he wouldnt improve if his team must bail him every time

#10
mojhito5
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patmen hate will NOT be tolerated he's the goat

#12
MrBlooBloom
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no you don't need to shoot. He isn't a walking orb who gives free picks to the ennemy, him having bad stats is not correlated to his individual skill.
IE: Patmen being shit isn't a problem contrary to bang being shit for exemple

#15
SAMPV6
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silver 1 ass take

#19
Shadrach
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And you are? Iron?

#17
eejayzzz
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he got 4 3K's in the series wdym

#18
1One1
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Are you..... Buzz?

#20
Shadrach
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Hahahhaha damm it sounds like it.. sorry..

#21
i6rei
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are you buzz

#24
IndiaNoob
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chill out, i mean he is still rookie. let him develop for now

#25
BYUDSAdsa
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he has insane aim he just doesnt get opportunities

#26
9wntr
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dumb

#27
propredicter
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he has redeeming rounds, he doesnt have to play like leo.

#28
derp64
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lmao dumbest take on earth thank god alecks is smarter than you

#29
bbyang
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he's the initiator, some highlights of jinggg patmen is always there especially their fade raze combo, it really depends on what is your job for the team, patmen is there to support his teammates, do you ever wonder where patmen is every post-plants? he's always near the bomb or playing default as his team always seeks for gunfights, he's the most disciplined player compared to the rest of the team, sometimes he doesn't always do the high risk high reward gameplay, he was Mr. Reliable when prx was losing confidence especially stage 1 when they were on lose streaks, now that the team have their peak confidence he's just there to support them

#31
aozoraweiss
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yeah prx should replace him and send him to hell (team secret)

#36
KssS
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PRX doesnt need another aimer, they need a flexible player that can play initiator well and at the same time come up with some good ideas to combo his util with Jinggg and something.

He can aim just fine, but having to think about ways to help your team entry takes a toll on his aim. You can see the difference with his aim when he is in a clutch situation vs when the round just started.

You can also see it when he is playing viper on icebox that he can shoot when he doesnt need to think about helping his team

#40
Effluxi
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ono we went 13/11 13/15 13/11 and won vs the 13/11 merchants we better start making roster changes like no 🤣

#46
everything
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Yeah look at edg, they got a new aimer and yet they shat their bed

#47
GodAwfulGod
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PRX had an aimer in mindfreak and yet PRX struggled a lot more with mindfreak than with patmen. People on VLR need to realize that aim and getting kills aren't everything in this game, assists, good util and comms are just as important for a team to be successful.

#48
Oni_APAC
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PatMen really made me realize dumbasses in this forum does not understand Impact Kills, and Pat is 99% Impact kills oh and btw you know why he's not on top all the time? cause he's the only one disciplined enough to stay alive in PRX he doesn't chase kills he wins the round that's why every highlight of this guy is a 1v2 1v3 1v4 clutches why? CAUSE THE MF CAN SHOOT HE JUST DOESN'T CHASE IT

#49
jixk
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he is kd isn't why it was close as it was as much as i hate to say it it would've been a 2-0 if f0rsaken stopped inti'ing
on the first two maps he had the most first deaths on the server and made up for it 2x cause he is f0rsaken obvi but without those -10 first deaths it would've been much easier for the boys with there best/2nd best player not perma spectating and actually playing the valorant video game

not discrediting G2 orr anything incredible team but f0rsaken had rounds where he genuinely looked like a plat player playing omen

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