1) f0rsaken
2) something
3) chronicle
kronikel at least 2
hes the best player in the world, something is nowhere near him
he flexes what? sova and duelist. while chronicle did a lot more through his career
chron doesnt flex in the way that something does tho. chron is insane, but hes basically just been sova/breach/viper/cypher since like 2022 with some vyse more recently, which is same role.
Like sova and breach are same role cypher viper vyse is same role. not really saying thats flexing
He's also played Raze, Chamber.
I mean that's already a lot.
I'm all for the something glaze but considering him in a list of best flexes is just wrong
https://www.vlr.gg/player/9801/f0rsaken/?timespan=all (24/28 agents) {played, all 4 agent classes and played to a high level}
https://www.vlr.gg/player/458/chronicle/?timespan=all (19/28 agents) {played, all 4 agent classes and played to a high level}
https://www.vlr.gg/player/17086/something/?timespan=all (12 agents) {Played 3 agent classes with duelist being his best and 3 games on brimstone (didn't play well in the games), so imma take that are 2 agent classes played to a high enough level}
due to this difference we can't consider something something a true flex player or a goat of flexing sorry
he doesnt play a viper, the main diff agent of a flex player
if u had a structured team your flex dont need to play with controller and duelist agents
the team that bombed out prx on ewc, in a match that u cant ban the 2 best fnatic maps just cause got lucky to dont get geng on the bracket? ok
why tf u bringing up ewc lolllll it's not relevant anymore for fnc due to their poor stage 2 performance
f0rsaken is better at FLEXING not a outright better individual player overall on a top 10 list chron is still the goat at FLEXING in a flex list f0rsaken clears
so, for a dream team u pick a flex that cant play viper? ok, gl adapting your recon/controller
Idk why we're acting like forsaken can't play viper. We just haven't seen him play it cause his team already has people for it. He also didn't play brim till a few months ago and he's frying on it.
and the same argument can be used for agents that chronicle has never played
chronicle is better cause he has the best key agents in a normal team, if you have a normal team your flex dont need to play controller or duelist
ok no that logic is dumb asf, it's like people saying chronicle can't play duelist because he plays on a team with people that can duelist. Like half the reason f0rsaken has flexed as much as he does is because jingg and something aren't that flexible - not saying his flexibility isn't impressive. Like the wwhole argument of chronicle vs f0rsaken is due to the fact chronicle has been successful but f0rsaken has flexed more. So if you want you want use that logic that f0rsaken can play viper but doesn't need to then you have to say the same about chronicle.
Exactly which was my point. They are both insane flex players where the degree of flex is difficult to tell. Yes forsaken flexes more cause his teammates are more fixed but it's also because prx plays weird comps. They are both difficult to rate which is why people keep bringing up trophies. The bigger problem in comparing the two is the way they play the agents they flex. Chronicle is an insanely stable backbone that will hold down sites for his team. Whereas forsaken is essentially the third duelist on any agent. He is also the igl now and the team looks insane. It's very subjective who the better flex is but I think the fact that we are comparing a duelist turned flex who is also calling to a historic flex player is already saying a lot about forsaken.
i mean, ur main controller playing viper on maps that viper is like a sentinel
is that what im saying
when you play viper you r dont play like a real controller (except Breeze) which doesnt apply to this role, thats why I say that viper is a different controller than omen, brim and astra
Yeah I know but contoller players are supposed to be able to play viper on icebox, and viper isn't played like a real controller there, so they should be able to play it on every map
who says f0rsaken can't viper he has always had two vipers players on his team and for a dream team our senti player is picking up viper or our main smokes(both of them have to play viper in a dream team) player guess what f0rsaken fills both roles either main smokes or senti in viper comp
there isn't a viper comp itw that f0rsaken can't play in cause thats all prx play viper AND he clears on duelist 2nd orb smokes igl he is currently better on recon and senti is similar with chron advantage but i would trust f0rsaken on chamber kj and the rest are close or even
f0rsaken is just a better duelist and controller because, as I said, on a team where chronicle played (get rid of m3c, d3ffo got cooked for external reasons), he does not need to play duelist and controller.
lets take into account that chronicle had better stats than f0rsaken 3/4 years since 2021.
doesn't matter f0rsaken is better at flexing any time he picks up a new agent he becomes one of the best on it instantly he has played every role in the game to T1 level including IGL and AC better stats are argument for individual list again f0rsaken is better at flexing that is like arguing who is a better at penalty's and going well chron is better mid fielder and f0rsaken still has insane stats on everything tbh
u can give chron senti and inti(f0rsaken clears on recon right now but whatever) f0rsaken still wins since he flexed onto igl and AC i know for a fact if chron could igl redgar wouldn't have a job at all on GMB or M3C and gmb wins everything with a better player on smokes and possibly a better duelist
also f0rsaken had better stats in champs 23 so chron wasn't better for 3-4 years also at madrid and shanghai and copanhagen
not even in the tournament where f0rsaken was mvp did he have better stats than chronicle
take out the swiss stage and look at those stats and remember that is f0rsaken igling (worst fragging role in the game) getting more kills then chron in the GF on igl while flexing to more roles igl smokes recon vs 2 sentis and a senti with the wrong role assignment
if something counts as a flex then prx has 4 flexes with f0rsaken, jinggg, and d4v4i
There's seriously no way the guy who can't even play most of the agents in his main role is a flex were going too far with the glaze
he doesnt have a role u sub 20 iq
he's a flex
a bunch of duelist in 2021 doesnt change that
Guys getting ragebaited by something in the list is funny asf (put him on brimstone again we gotta tell the world this guy can flex fr)
having something and not demon1 is insane tbh even though demon1 is washed he still looked great playing astra and brim (something still clears demon1 all time tho)