- Karon
- S0m
- Mako
- Keiko
- Spring
- Smoggy
- Bang
- Profek
- Dos9
- Valyn
Yeah, S0m doesn't have the results to back it, cause NRG was a disaster for stage 1, but if you followed the game in 2023 or watched their recent games, you'd know S0m is insane. Also, while Karon hasn't been hitting in the most recent games, he's still the best Smokes player. His lowlights are other players' highlights.
Because keiko's not the main duelist on his team ands only runs secondary duelist when needed, and s0m has a way longer history of being NRG's controller player and only recently has started flexing to senti. Forsaken has more games off smokes than than on the role even in the past 90 days.
In general most of PRX does not fit a set role identity and it would be wrong to classify most of these players as just a single role. Davai is nearly always the sentinel, but every other player plays at least 2 different roles in significant amounts. However, given forsaken's extremely long history as a flex player it is only right to call him a flex rather than a controller main.
"Because keiko's not the main duelist on his team ands only runs secondary duelist when needed"
Because F0rsaken's not the main initiator on his team and only runs it when needed.
When it's needed, is the majority of the time. If Nats woke up tomorrow and decided to become the team's fade/sova player, he is now a scan player regardless of the fact that he's the goat sentinel. F0rsaken is the goat flex and is a flexible player, but currently he is primarily a controller player and should be ranked when ranking CURRENT controller players.
Your nats example doesn't work because he is literally better on sentinel and is defined by that role.
Forsaken is good on every single role he plays. He is not defined by the smoke role, he is defined by his ability to always be good across a wide variety of agents. That's why he is a goated flex player.
Right now chronicle is running mostly sentinels, yet nobody is calling him a top sentinel player. Because he isn't defined by his performance on sentinel characters, he is defined by his consistent flex capability in the same way forsaken is.
"Your nats example doesn't work because he is literally better on sentinel and is defined by that role"
Skill level on the Agent doesn't matter? It just comes down to play time, and yeah if you want to get technical chronicle is a controller or sentinel player with Viper being his most played character by far, tho id more so lump viper in with the sentinels since the only map he doesn't play viper is icebox - coincidentally the only map where shes played as a traditional controller. Making him a senti player with his 4 most picked agents in the last 90 being Viper, Sage, Cypher, and Vyse.
and Chronicle vs F0rsaken isn't even an accurate comparison rn cause in the last 60 days, where 99% of PRX success has been f0rsaken has only played 4 characters to Chronicle's 7.
Best thing s0m ever did in valorant was being a domestic Americas smoker. Can't even make internationals pre partnership ( 0 achievement). Where was s0m in 2024? ALL of s0m achievement was in 2023 only (single year/1 season wonder) and he's top 2? How many trophy does he have? Not enough contribution.