Told you about EMEA

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CaptainMasterOfGod

Look how org move and scout players. They don't even care about winning you guys are beyond f*ck

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Nitrololo

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ah yeah, cause navi and apeks are really the peak of emea aren't they

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At least show us you trying to build winning team or it's just waste of slot. Give it to APAC we will build winning team to stomp your ass

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Nitrololo

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i didnt say the roster moves were good, i think theyre not great honestly, but I also think its unfair to form these conclusions off of two teams moves.

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Bro forgot about zeta ts etc

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CaptainMasterOfGod

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Zeta clearly trying to win with everything they tried to change year by year
but TS is trash I agree on that

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you genuinely need to shut the fuck up

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baited

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thanks

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CaptainMasterOfGod

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no

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alright

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-Artorias

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brother emea is least talented region what do you expect from emea orgs? americans and apac players are too expensive

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Uncleben

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Nah that is cap, Emea got like half the insane rookies/goat list players, if anything, talent is the one thing y’all aren’t lacking

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nah he's right. emea lacks talent

ppl on the goat list from emea r just the ex/current-fnc players and nats

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Uncleben

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Fnc + nats is only goat list. Then you also half people like comeback, Kaajak, larok, sayonara, umu7, globex for upcoming talent, people like Suygetsu, Shao, keiko, cloud, sheydoes, all stick on shitty teams (minus keiko)

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yea but having nats + one team of good players in the top players convo doesn't equate to making u the most talented region.

also if ur counting good players on avg teams, americas has oxy, cryo, keznit, s0m, mada, eeiu. mibr has been struggling recently but they have aspas and verno.

also they have players with super high peaks who may have a chance to return to their past form like yay and demon1

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"people on the goat list from emea are just players that i want to discredit because i said so"

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or maybe the fact that apart from nats, the remaining accolades are from one big team

that's like adding all the optic players to the list bc they have all been to 3 or 4 grandfinals together

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Difference is fnc players were actually top of their role for multiple years/seasons, chron being that before even joining fnc

Victor was always inconsistent, marved fell off hard after optic. I say this as a optic fan, optic/nrg were known for beating teams with more firepower (with the exception of yay)

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wtf is even your point? just because other players haven't won internationals doesn't mean there isn't talent in emea. or you wouldn't be mentioning oxy, cryo, keznit, s0m, mada, eeiu who haven't won shit either lmao

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If anything emea does have talent, if not for them we wouldnt have won madrid

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-Artorias

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goat list ? only some fnatic players , nats and derke thats it lol. most rookies are matchmaking gods thats it. they have only aim nothing special

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Artorias is the biggest European haters, he is very very biased.

Incapable of critical thinking.

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bro has a turkish flag saying shit like that lmao

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💅

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Congo1

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he is racist

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waseetali9

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bro we have talent cloud keiko kamo larok acdaemy players on koi and team liquid

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Burger_brain

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patmen wasnt doing good in tier2 but then prx got him

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CaxTonYT

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i swear this guy is the biggest emea hater

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wdym? alexiiik and olizera are not bad pickups in the slightest; maybe the teams suck but they are upgrades

i would be even more worried if teams at the bottom decided to not change and then remain bad

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for apeks, sure. but alexiik for Navi is not enough. If they had Comeback they could qual to champs. Now i think they will remain 5th-8th. They have the money and the core for more

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alexiiik is an upgrade over koalanoob, and i think depending on how they do, navi are real contenders to make champs if they get it together quickly

they are a good core regardless of if they have comeback koalanoob or alexiiik, they have a chance with whichever duelist they have, they just need to stick it out for now and see where it goes

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see i disagree. I love EMEA more than anybody and yet i cant confidently tell you that alexiik is a better player than koala and i have watched both for over 2 years now. Their styles are different maybe. Alexiik more of an entry fragger, koala the OPer. But thats it really. If someone made the argument Koala is better i wouldnt say thats a crazy take.

Their core is indeed really good but the competition is so tough. Fnatic, Heretics, Liquid, BBL all have really strong cores. KCorp with the right comps is right there with Navi already. Gentlemates built a really strong roster. Fut is still there. Even teams like giants show improvement. In the midst of all this you need to make Top 2...

I fear despite being decent the roster will blow up after this year with ange1 getting kicked due to the big money spent on this team without internationals and Shao exploring his Free agency potentially. The org Navi actually wants to win trophies. Therefore standards are set very high. They probably build 2026 around Ruxic/Hiro and start fresh.

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