Should we start think about this

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It's pretty clear that Valorant has lost popularity in EMEA and the Americas
This event is being held in North America and scheduled around Western time zones a complete nightmare for Asian viewers
That’s why Masters Toronto ended up with some of the worst viewership numbers ever even including Chinese audiences

We should seriously consider hosting 80% of future events in Asia
Western regions are clearly losing traction and without popularity there won’t be a new generation of talent Their teams are just going to keep declining

Honestly I wouldn’t mind if Riot rethinks the regional slot allocations in 2027
If EMEA and Americas can't win a single event in 2025 or 2026 (which looks very likely) just reduce their slots from 12 to 10 and give those extra spots to Pacific and China
That would be a smart move to strengthen the Eastern scene and grow the overall player base where the hype actually is

What do you guys think?

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just keep it as it is, it ensures better competitiveness and avoids leagueification

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I don't want any leagueification as well but considering the skill level of EMEA and the Americas teams I'm scare that might be the end

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delighted

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I can see u don't know anything about the competitive level of vct

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CaptainMasterOfGod

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Thanks for your wrong opinion

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delighted

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did bro watch masters Bangkok and masters toronto

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CaptainMasterOfGod

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I've watched all low iq call and worst whiff moments of them

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or you just meant T1 vs G2

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Marii

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3/8 but it’s not like league where the top 4 teams are all Asian every event it’s always a different region in the finals

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??? bro what

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CaptainMasterOfGod

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reduce from 12 to 10 team would effect them anyway no way people want to watch bottom 2 team of EMEA and Americas in the other hand bottom 2 of Pacific still very competitive

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bottom 2 of CN have upset potential in them

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Arosuu

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EMEA and Americas literally made finals in both toronto and bangkok yet you want their slots removed? are you even thinking at all?

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CaptainMasterOfGod

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As we know It's all about the winning and losing and they keep losing for too long we should do something about it

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it means that Asia has finally caught up to EMEA and Americas' skill level

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Arosuu

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lets just make it APAC vs CN and Americas vs EU then fuck global tournaments

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I think it’s bait

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Arosuu

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my hate for PRX fans will never go away. I will never forgive fnatic for what they have done.

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delighted

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FNC couldn't even push it to map 5 lol

PRX was winning no matter what

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dawg this single dude has done so much damage to the paper rex fan reputation I swear to god. He's like asian hitler atp

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CaptainMasterOfGod

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I'm just smart business man who don't care about people feeling it's all about marketing to make money and grow the sconce to its potential

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this time I'm on your side. I guess I need to to revise the rules so PRX fans could also get brought to the "CHOO CHOO" execution hall

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CaptainMasterOfGod

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Bait or not everything I presented in this thread is factual and logical thought for business stand point. 0 emotional so if someone feel offense for it. it's on them.

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Aayan

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Business??
What kind are we dealing with
Give me cash flow, margins, profits quick

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nobody___100

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ts is why fnatic needed to win
#FNATICFORVALORANT

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It's pretty clear that Valorant has lost popularity in EMEA and the Americas

Do you have any sources on this? And if the problem is timezones just make all the tournaments in Europe, its good timezone for the West and the East

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Masters Athens ✋😐🤚

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CaptainMasterOfGod

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It's not that hard to find the numbers. Where?... Come onม show me how smart you are. Comeback here when you're find it. I'll wait

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got higher numbers than masters shanghai and tokyo. masters madrid still has the highest peak viewership not including chinese viewership

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CaptainMasterOfGod

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Bro talking about Asian viewership and not include the biggest region to it

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penpen

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bcos we dont have the numbers for it. duh theyre not counted on most sites

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b0lkylettuce alt not moved

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FlygonFC

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ah yes great logic so u tell me emea and americas is losing popularity so your solution is to kill it even more instead of saving it great idea bruh

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CaptainMasterOfGod

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I told we should laser focus on our strength considered emea and americas are not winning for the next few year it's going to be waste of investment no?

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FlygonFC

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???? "emea and americas" are not winning for the next few years" just tells me u dont know jackshit about esports how are u so sure about that like u can look into the future. U never know what happens next in esports. nobody expected a prx fnc grandfinal champs could be a emea americas grandfinal because esports is unpredictable and moving fast most of the time

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CaptainMasterOfGod

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comeback here and knee to me when apac won EWC and Paris I can see level of the game "emea and americas" won't catch Asia up soon and considering young talent and tier 2 NA EMEA are more than f*ck they wouldn't not develop anything

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Unincognito

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You included the Micky mouse tourney 🤣

Also you don’t know anything about EMEA tier 2

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penpen

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bruh apac finally won a trophy last year calm down. everyone was happy bcos they finally actually won. clearly it got to your head n gave you an ego

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brother they are not losing popularity, people have one of the only team in apac that people like are prx, so americas and emea havent lost popularity, and if they reduced americas and emea slots, less people would like valoratn for doing that, more pros would prob stop want to play in that league and move to apac and cn, more people there less people would participate, and how would that look for valorant across other games, should they get more bullied than they already are by cs and other games, your logic here would just destroy val comp

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LockN

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W engagement bait

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BREQKERRRRRR

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No, tournaments in Asia are pretty underwhelming, the crowd is super quiet.

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CaptainMasterOfGod

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We are focused to win

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As someone who follows CS2 closely, I really don’t think cutting regional slots in Valorant just because EMEA or the Americas aren’t winning right now is a smart move. In CS2, we’ve already seen what happens when the scene becomes too EU-heavy—NA, SA, and Asia basically vanished from Tier 1 events, and it’s made the scene feel smaller and less exciting overall. Sure, teams like The MongolZ are doing their best, but one team can’t carry an entire region. Taking away opportunities from weaker regions doesn’t help them grow—it just kills local interest, talent development, and investment. It also makes the scene harder to follow for fans outside of Asia, which matters for long-term viewership and sponsor interest.

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2021 Stage 2 Masters Reykjavík - Sentinels (NA) vs Fnatic (EMEA)
2021 Stage 3 Masters Berlin - Gambit Esports (EMEA) vs Team Envy (NA)
2021 Champions Berlin - Acend (EMEA) vs Gambit Esports (EMEA)
2022 Stage 1 Masters Reykjavík - OpTic Gaming (NA) vs LOUD (SA)
2022 Stage 2 Masters Copenhagen - FunPlus Phoenix (EMEA) vs Paper Rex (PACIFIC)
2022 Champions Istanbul - LOUD (SA) vs OpTic Gaming (NA)
2023 LOCK//IN São Paulo - Fnatic (EMEA) vs LOUD (SA)
2023 Masters Tokyo - Fnatic (EMEA) vs Evil Geniuses (NA)
2023 Champions Los Angeles - Evil Geniuses (NA) vs Paper Rex (PACIFIC)
2024 Masters Madrid - Sentinels (NA) vs Gen.G (PACIFIC)
2024 Masters Shanghai - Gen.G (PACIFIC) vs Team Heretics (EMEA)
2024 Champions Seoul - Edward Gaming (CHINA) vs Team Heretics (EMEA)
2025 Masters Bangkok - T1 (PACIFIC) vs G2 Esports (NA)
2025 Masters Toronto - Paper Rex (PACIFIC) vs Fnatic (EMEA)

EMEA - 10 apperances
NA - 8 apperances
SA - 3 apperances
PACIFIC - 6 apperances
China - 1 apperance

Yes the last 4 events were won by PACIFIC / Chinese teams but it doesn't seem like you are looking at the bigger picture. Especially since it wasn't dominant wins. Also as a european this masters was a disaster for viewing, I missed a ton of games due to the late playing times. And no I'm not hating on the idea because "I'm a EMEA fan". I enjoy watching other regions more due to the mechanical skills.

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Pre Partnership vs Partnership

EMEA - 5 appearances vs 5 = SAME
NA - 4 appearances vs 4 = SAME
SA - 2 appearances vs 1 = DECLINE
PACIFIC - 1 appearance vs 5 = IMPROVED
CHINA - 0 appearance vs 1 = IMPROVED

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Grinern

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Yes, even this shows perfectly how balanced the numbers are. Except for CHINA but tbh they will dominate the next years.

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Also after partnership (LOCK//IN and forward) the average placements for teams of regions are the following:
Americas: 8.03 avg
China: 9.66 avg
EMEA: 9.69 avg
PACIFC: 10.64 avg

EDIT: Can't spell.

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Its fine as it is tbh, i just want one in indonesia