FNS Top10 OAT | VLR.gg

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Shadow_Monarch

Aspas
Chronicle
Leo
Tenz
Derke
Meteor
Sacy
Less
Yay
Nats

Top5 doesn't look right, and some players were snuck in the list. Thoughts?

(Thanks for shouting me out FNS. W Retired Watchparty Streamer)

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michaelisupset

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besides how it’s sorted, I think the top 10 itself is good

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sentinelmain377

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W hijack. real top 10:

aspas
Derke
Chronicle
Leo
Sacy
nAts
yay
Less
TenZ
Alfajer

11-20:

MaKo
Boaster - most successful IGL by miles means something to people right? only reason why FNATIC is always a top team every year (despite many different rosters)
Zmjjkk
Meteor
Jawgemo
cNed
BuZz
f0rsaken
Demon1
t3xture

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zenarcl

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Alfajer is easily in top 8. He's a lock in winner, Masters winner (MVP), top 4 at Champs, 3x regional winner, also he’s individually better than Meteor and his peak is higher than Meteor

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meteor recency bias

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jixk

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he highly values success across teams its goes first 2nd history how long the been good 3rd trophies which vlr doesn't like but i agree with him

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Realfacts

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So sacy should be higher then him no? Won champs too and master again with 2 different teams. And has longer career than meteor too.

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lxolotl

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absolutely, meteor hasnt even been allat this season

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jixk

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sacy hasn't been here and meteor won a trophy this season and sacy bombed out after his 2nd too and meteor actually shoots back no offense

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Realfacts

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Sacy has longevity as well as better trophies than meteor. Meteor is top 10 for sure but absolutely not above sacy or even boaster. Igls are underrated so much by you guys.
And this list is for all time not current phase. And if you count the most current event where both of them played sacy achieved 4th with sen and meteor didn't make playoffs with geng.
Champs>>masters

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lxolotl

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check meteor recent stats bro hes mid

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jixk

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check sacy's stage 1 after madrid i promise he is worse and after this year he will have one less year for a overall better performance in all of his runs

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lxolotl

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meteor was a shit player before geng

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sealenjoyer

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sacy was ass sen 2023 and mid 2024

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sentinelmain377

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ok i agree w u and the other guy

but Sacy > Meteor
Sacy:

Istanbul Champs 2022 MVP
8 international appearances
3 Finals
2 Trophies (Champs & Masters)
Years in Tier 1/Good Team (2021-2022, 2024). VIKINGS, LOUD, SEN
Top 2 Initiator of all time (after Leo - the top 7 are Leo, Sacy, Chronicle(Initiator 2021-?), Crashies, C0m, RieNs, Shao))

Meteor:

Shanghai 2024 MVP
6 international appearances
3 Finals
2 Trophies (Kickoff Masters & Masters)
Years in Tier 1/Good Team (2024-2025). GEN.G, T1 (NORTHEPTION was asscheeks)
Top 4 Sentinel of all time (Top 4 = Nats, Less, Alfajer, Meteor)

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SHiNN_

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Did you watch him when he was on Northeption ?

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sentinelmain377

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ye he was kinda good there, but still Sacy clears tf out of Meteor and it isnt that close

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koromast

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2 masters on 2 different teams will never be recency bias bro

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Uloku

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Alfajer >>>>> Meteor. Alfa disrespect is crazy

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jixk

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he made alot of them interchangeable

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yay bias and tenz way to high. he legit had 2 bad years.

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Congo1

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he admitted tenz bias. also apparent that he is yay biased

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Crypto_816

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tenz won 2 masters with 2 different rosters on 2 different roles in 2 different metas xD. Also TenZ first win was a flawless win where he fucking dominated every team he faced coming in as a sub to the team. I'd say its deserved xd

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i still think that 4th is too high. i mean he wasnt dominant every year and in the first masters nobody even knew how to play the game. i still think that he is one of the best to ever do it, but 4th is just too high

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If you think about it 5 is kinda perfect. Derke was amazing all those years but even then you have to remember Tenz played with zombs, dapr and shahzam for 2 years, then kanpeki and shroud. I mean bro had no chance qualifying for anything.

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this is a fantastic list icl

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MgDRDZ

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Just put Less lower and its pretty good

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less always shits on nats when they play each other doesnt matter if its recent or old

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Chtarara

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Decent list, it's hard to sort them tho

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lowkeyaniceguy

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Buzz is heavily slept on

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edwardthegood

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stax snubbed

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Shadow_Monarch

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Thanks for shouting me out FNS. W Retired Watchparty Streamer.

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How is derke not at least top 5 if aspas is #1 mainly cause of his longevity and consistency? Also meteor above sacy is kinda recency bias for sure. Champs>>masters always. Alfa for sure in same rank as meteor if trophy are only counted.

And noticing no boaster in top 10. Igl really not appreciated enough in val eSports.

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He said because meta shifts so much, he doesn't see champs as the culmination of the whole year. So he has it being the same level as masters win.

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Just based on format and number of teams involved and financial importance alone champs is bigger than masters. Also meta does shift but teams and meta is the most solid at around champs phase. Can't be saying Madrid masters was equal to champs last year in importance or competition.

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The aspas #1 is always so forced

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jixk

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nahh hate him or love him he has been insane every team he joins becomes top 3 minimum regional and makes at least one run at a tourney he deserves his flowers

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aspas is 1 with 0 masters and champs tournament MVP is wild ggs, chronicle or kangkang up there

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Baitpass

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Assspas #1? KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

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foythvlr

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very fair list BUT i do think less shouldn't be on top 10 currently as much as i love him

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Ferminand

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flag: brazil

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put a flair on pussy + 0ngl0nd

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I agree less and yay are both phenomenal players, but I don't think they should be there over someone like alfa

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foythvlr

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i think boaster deserves more than the three of them (and nats too)

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Lucas99

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For me its
1.aspas (goat)
2.tenz (face of valorant)
3.chronicle(won the most and his consistency)
4.derke
5.sacy
6.leo (cause he isn't been playing)
7.less (best Sentinel)
8.boaster(goat igl)
9.yay(highest peek)
10.nats(the rat)

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respect you man 🛐

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Ferminand

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1.kangkang* the real goat

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Lucas99

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He is great bro but not in conversation for goat although he was great in champs last year but still chichoo and smoggy were the reason they won

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Ferminand

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are you joking rn? kankang lit had 111 kills at the final + in 2022 pancada + less lit peaked ur just a glazer

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Lucas99

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Kk was the best in the world in finals for surr but chichoo and smoggy won them the most matches they were the real backbone those who have seen all there matches can agree

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Realfacts

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Why are you getting baited by a baiter lol? Just check his previous comments in vlr. Bro probably didn't even watch kk or edg games before this.

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Lucas99

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MB bro 😅

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Ferminand

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alt account spotted nt

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Meteor
Sacy
Less
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In front of nAts, criminal

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noSananoLife

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rt

How Less a better senti that nats

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Lucas99

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Bro, it's not about right now; it's about all time, and your opinion can be different. 🙃

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sentinelmain377

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Less is really good (better aimer than nAts), but nAts:

is a way better sentinel
defined lurks
created many setups still used
was #1 player of 2021
has tournament MVP
Phantom weapon GOAT

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Lucas99

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I agree with you a bit but if i am building a super team then i think its less over nats in terms of there peek performance

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what did Nats do since 2021

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jixk

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he got peer pressured into -less +alfa which makes it betta

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Marii

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Leo top 3 💔🥀

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noSananoLife

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Chron should move up 1 spot 4 Grand finals and won 3
Been relevant since 2021

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Lucas99

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Yah for surr but i have tenz bias

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Uloku

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Alfajer >>>> Meteor. Alfa disrespect is crazy

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zenarcl

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Alfajer is easily in my top 8. He's a lock in winner, Masters winner (MVP), top 4 at Champs, 3x regional winner, also he’s individually better than Meteor and his peak is higher than Meteor

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Clickbait I thought you put FNS in top 10 oat

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Meteor the most overrated player oat

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nAts should be higher
Alfajer should be in this list

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Drakath

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NO KK IS INSANE CONSIDERING HE HOLDS THE MOST REGIONAL TROPHY WON AN INT AND BROKE THE KILL REC WHILE DOING SO