Top 10 players of all time

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AleAlejandro

Aspas
Chronicle
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Less
Kangkang
Leo
nAts
MaKo
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Not even top 30: Jawgemo, Meteor

#2

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Less
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nAts could be above but i fw this list

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hellfire

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above kk leo aspas and chronicle??????

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be699

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sacy not being on the list and ZEKKEN being is not right

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hellfire

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why is d0rke n0ts and tenz on the list hn

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AleAlejandro

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Because they should be

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Yistyy

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Nice bait, Jawgemo could be up to top 7

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AleAlejandro

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At his peak he wasn't even a top 15 player in the world. You can't tell me that someone who's highest ever rating at an intl event is 1.08 and has been putting up mediocre performances for years is a top 7 player of all time just because of a champs trophy and 2 grand finals chokes.

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Yistyy

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Hes made it to 3 grand finals. At that point nerd stats get thrown out the window. His impact is clear.

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AleAlejandro

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Ok and what is his impact exactly? Is it some sort of magical blessing that makes it so his teams get to the grand finals or what?

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Yistyy

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Space creation

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serot

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Plenty of players do space creation and don’t die as often. Not saying he sucks but 2023 EG was ass before demon1 so he clearly wasn’t the reason they got better and G2 was already placing high internationally before he joined. Jawgemo is fs a top duelist in Americas but I wouldn’t call him a top 10 player just from placements alone.

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Kk/Shats in top 10, but no Sacy/Meteor

0/8 bait

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AleAlejandro

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Sacy is like 11th and Kk and nAts are way better players individually than Meteor. The only event Meteor was world class in was Shanghai.

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flanador

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Lay off the drugs

#12

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Actually, the legit top 3 oat is:
1- Leo
2- Aspas
3- Chronicle

(source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU0IVRD-kO4)
in summary: fair calculations are made for all players, those who haven't played enough games are discarded, and their lifetime rating is considered, not K/D or ADR, but rather a combination of all those stats.

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unserious

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https://imgur.com/a/aQg1RXK
According to the video, this is the top 20 of the best valorant players in history. The top 3 is revealed during the video; you should watch it because it's interesting and provides all the data used to evaluate the list.

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jawn

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according to the video, these are statistically the best players in Valorant using the specific formula he made, marteen is 12 let's be fr

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Actually, to be the best player in the world, we must evaluate two things:

Average Rating (R 2.0)
Coefficient of Variation * (CV)

The average rating is the overall impact the player has game after game. It evaluates things like the number of times they've been traded, the number of times they've traded someone, the number of times they've died away from the team (which subtracts points), clutches, important kills, etc.
And the coefficient of variation refers to the player's consistency. The lower the coefficient, the more consistent they are, therefore, they are a solid and stable player.

and yeah, if marteen is in the top 12, there should be something

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just a fancy way of saying he is calculating consistency, also if you think marteen is the 12th best valorant player of all time then you don't belong in these discussions

#25

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yes, but you haven't even told me what you think, what your top is, or what you value when you say that someone is the best in the world. I don't think it's very fair to debate with you, honestly.

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I value winning, innovation, x-factor and consistency.

the greatest players of all time are the ones who have bested the competition the most times, the players that have pushed the game forward the most, the players who have stepped up the most when their team needed them and the players who do it for a longer period of time.

with that being said

aspas
chronicle
d0rke
tenz
alfajer
sacy
leo
less
nats
a meteor
b mako

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of course bro that's what i mean with the R 2.0 and CV

"the players that have pushed the game forward the most, the players who have stepped up the most when their team needed them and the players who do it for a longer period of time."

that's exactly what those statistics are based on.
even so, this debate will always remain subjective because not everyone values the same things. bowever, this video has evaluated the most important aspects of valorant and what a good player requires. the video is completely objective. For example, if you like aspas more and move him up, that's valid, but that's it.

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so how exactly was innovation, x-factor and winning calculated? where the numbers at?

continue thread →

#35

glittering_yard

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This video has Cryocells and Leaf as Top 4 and 5 player of all time bro, Riens Top 7💀. The numbers he used for these calculations lack context to make sense

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did you watch the video?

#37

glittering_yard

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yes

#38

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well, then you just don't agree
but i think it's fair like, they we're playing insane these last two years, Riens, Cryo, and Leaf have been the talk of the community
It's a matter of opening your mind and noticing that not everything revolves around derke or aspas currently

#39

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yes, not everything revolves around derke or aspas currently, but when we are talking about best players of all time, there are no stats that can make me believe that marteen is better than Less in a GOAT list kkkkkkkk

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well just see how it's less playing in emea rn
you're brazilian so probaby you're biased with Less but it's just the stats bro, like idc about Less i just think it's fair but i understand your point, i would've thought the same, there's no way that marteen is better than my boy keznit

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Keznit eats marteen for breakfast and Less literally won EMEA Kickoff this year and made top 4 internationally, the guy who made the video tries to analyze consistency but fails to give context to the numbers.

GUILD Leo inflated stats were used and both GUILD and Leo didnt even qualify to Champions and were not even top 10 in the world in 2022. But his numbers still counts for the "consistency" even when he didnt lead his team to actual success

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yeah but leo 2023?
and i forgot that less won the kickoff, so that's true
but i don't think there's a fail with the guy who gave the context to the numbers, i understood the video perfectly and i agree
But that's all for today, I'm very sleepy, good night!!!!

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glittering_yard

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good night !!

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jawn

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less and tenz in top5, valid

#17

Arosuu

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entire list after Derke is just false

#23

31Raven

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1/8

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irishsamingg

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no demon1??

#34

AleAlejandro

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Became washed after 6 months

#41

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TenZ at number 4 😂😂

#42

marxlboro

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-zekken + sacy
-mako + alfa
-nats + meteor

besides that, good list

#43

oliv-

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"Not even top 30: Jawgemo, Meteor" are u retrded or retrded?

#45

AleAlejandro

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Hey that's not very nice

#46

marnd

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chichoo where

#49

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How tf did zekken make it but not Yay