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VCL SEA

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#1
SleepyBear

first of all. F U Jake Sin 😡🖕 what are u doing ? First, you kill the broadcast and hype around SEA. Now you're killing the entire region

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2025/Southeast_Asia/Split_3

Alter Ego, NAOS Esports, Oblivion Force, and The MongolZ have been relegated as the two lowest-performing non-Academy teams in each group.

https://x.com/JTayy_/status/1920497525762425226

How does this make any sense? Why are Academy teams protected from relegation?
NAOS literally made the Grand Finals, and now they’re getting relegated in Split 3 just because they’re not an Academy team? im telling u this franchise-style system is a complete joke. It’s killing competition, punishing independent orgs and ruining the SEA scene

W Jake Sin achievements :

  1. The system is punishing good teams simply because they aren’t Academy teams ✅
  2. demoralizing orgs that trying to build success from the ground up ✅
  3. detrimental the SEA scene, which already struggles with investment and exposure✅
    Anyone want to add anything?

edit : just my random thoughts **

SEA Tier 2 is being sold to some random streaming platform, right? Now we can’t even do watch party. How are teams supposed to survive like this, let alone attract sponsors if they can’t even broadcast their matches

Someone said SEA investment issues are our own problem. then i think about it & how are we supposed to survive when we’re sinking deeper into the dark ocean? We can’t even breathe out here. What yall think? Where did all the investment money go for Tier 2 SEA that they ended up selling it off like this?

Where did all the money that Riot got from selling Tier 2 SEA actually go? What was it even used for? Did it even have any real impact on us?

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FrostTree187
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???????? WTF is this dumb ass move

#4
SleepyBear
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yeah its so stupid xD

#3
sinkyourhead
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Up

#5
Stormyv8
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Is it just because the league isn't over yet that naos isn't in Stage 3 or am I missing something?

Because the slots are all filled up

EDIT: Wait I'm so dumb so because TS and TLN are academy teams then NAOS are brought down!?? this is actually stupid. They HAVE to adjust something here

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SleepyBear
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yes they get relegated cause they aren’t Academy teams lol

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aatabii
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https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2025/Southeast_Asia/Split_2
NAOS top 3 in group.... (Talon and secret academy in this group)

and then beat RRQ in playoff

its all useless battle lmao 😭😭😭

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Huyab
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2 SEA TEAMs represent APAC in Toronto and they still decided to kill SEA challengers.. Literal braindead move by JAKE SIN.

Why not just kick all SEA org for 2027 and keep only JP and KR huh??? just pull the f'ing trigger RIOT!! NOBODY FUCKING WATCH T2 VAL ON SOOP MF AAAAAAAA

#8
SleepingSnorlax
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Stupid riot bruh I feel for the sea fans

#9
poorlifechoices
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add to that he keeps on commenting on "dramas" and not actually do something about it i fucking swear to god this guy is so useless

#14
Huyab
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Bro (jake sin) literally goes to Jakarta Ascension in 2024, Praise the Indonesian/SEA fans, then killed the entire SEA T2 scene forcing SEA household orgs like DSG, MiTH, to just abandon the entire scene. And refuses to elaborate and busy baiting stupid "drama" on twitter.. This fucking guy holyshit.

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jixk
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well it was nice having a scene while we had it riot is forcing league 2.0 since SEA is actually competing
being a better team doesn't matter in challengers i guess its about who has a T1 org behind

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ZjoN
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This way they're basically saying that group stage performance is more important than playoff performance which is just braindead. A much better solution would be to give teams that win (or make it to the final or whatever condition seems fair) immunity for relegation.

#12
fictional
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SEA is basically rising up rn against korean team. riot already allowing them to scrim share and still losing. time to make another move to kill the entire scene

#21
jixk
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its so shameless too they aren't even trying to hide it academy teams who are shit and stay shit dont deserve chances

#15
KssS
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riot just doesnt know how to handle SEA. if investment was the problem partnering with SOOP was the worst decision ever.

Imagine you consolidate all of SEA into 1 league.
Thai+Indo+Phil+Viet+MYSG viewership skyrockets and you can get more sponsorships if it was streamed on Youtube and Twitch.

But what do we have??? FUCKING SOOP THAT AVERAGES 500 VIEWS PER MATCH!

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Huyab
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But what do we have??? FUCKING SOOP THAT AVERAGES 500 VIEWS PER MATCH!

Its crazy that both Thai and Indo viewership during finals can reach 30k++ views "EACH" on youtube alone, and now its only 300-500 views lmaoooo...

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KssS
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i know right? considering that Thailand and Indonesia has some of the most dedicated fans in valorant. If VCL SEA was allowed to stream on YT just indonesia alone would be 3k-10k+ of the views

Considering also the rivalry of PH and ID there would be significant PH viewers too

#22
Adli_goblo
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We need YT broadcast, people have jobs and school. Plus wth is with the 1am game?XD

#16
Adli_goblo
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Doesn't Naos just win and got to grand finals? How they're getting relegated? Lol

#18
KssS
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bottom 2 of each group in the group stage automatically get relegated regardless of playoffs. Academy teams are immune from relegation so NAOS being 3rd place in that group get relegated

#17
Adli_goblo
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I really want to watch VCL Sea tho, but i just can't watch it because of SOOP,

#23
Adli_goblo
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The schedule also fuxked. They're playing in 12-1 am timeslot, what is Riot thinking?

#24
SleepyBear
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rather than arguing with retarded guy, better help me up this shit

#SAVESEA GIVE BACK OUR BROADCAST

#25
Huyab
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Riil as fuck

#26
jiancik
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rrq should shove their trophy up to jake sin ass and told him to give up the soap deal + bring back apac broadcast to youtube/twitch

#27
Yuranagi
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they're quite literally killing a whole damn region and no one seems to care abt it

#30
SleepyBear
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SEA Tier 2 needs someone cosplaying Frost or we need our own Tenz, someone who actually speaks up about it

#28
delighted
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ABSOLUTE MELONS

#29
CczP1
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This is happening exactly the same in ow esports and I honestly don't want to see it in SOOP. cuz SOOP is for egirl lovers

#31
Sixe
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yow WTF it just keep getting worse... I swear to God riot employees are a bunch of koreaboos, they only watch korean drama/movies they only listen to Kpop music and only watches korean BJ streamers(not that i hate this one, the boobas are hypnotizing)

#32
Anguibok
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"How does this make any sense? Why are Academy teams protected from relegation?"
This is normal, it's good for stability, I just think every SEA subregion should have one team that would be protected (So either 5 or 7 teams depending if you give 2 to MN/TW and MY/ID)

the problem here is how is the rulebook, Naos shouldn't have never been relegated, Z11 should be the relegated team because they didnt manage to qualify, (Or we could have only 3 relegated team, it wouldnt be shocking to do that)

#33
brahianv
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jake s0n

#34
notliangge
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Fun fact : soop is a korean platform

#35
SleepyBear
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its all make sense, just saying✋😐🤚

#36
stellaresca
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JAKE SIN is a korean, are we surprised that he’s
1) killing the SEA scene
2) sold streaming rights to s00p A KOREAN PLATFORM BTW
3) banned watchparties outside said platform

#37
xonya
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jake sin sucking off koreans and japanese

not suprised

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