- LOUD
- FNATIC
- ENVY/OPTIC/NRG
- GAMBIT/M3C
- EVIL GENIUSES
- ACEND
- FPX/NAVI
- PRX
- DRX/VS
- SENTINELS
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- TL
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- KRU
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TOP 10+2 TEAMS IN VAL HISTORY
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Champs is the biggest tournament
so i think is> lower bracket run in Masters
but is close
so were FPX, they got outclassed the very next tournament after their title, then they trolled a whole year as NAVI, while PRX/DRX have been consistently top teams for 2 years now
NAVI qualified to Tokyo and LA
also say that PRX choke 2 finals and DRX didn't even get in a final
so FPX make a LOWER BRACKET RUN and win a PRX that is the biggest choker ever
qualifying to an event over winning regional titles and being perma top 6 in said events is crazy
are you crazy?
FPX made a top 4 in champs after being champions of Masters
SEN..... NOTHING (1 tournament team)
also is the worst masters ever
NO GROUP STAGE, NUTURN, VERSION1, SHARKS
they lost at their peak to the teams below them and then fell off while they stayed at the same level, historically DRX and PRX are better
also SEN finished top 6 their next tournament and played in Champs
the real order is: PRX>DRX>FPX>SEN
top 8*
and only played Champs because they win Masters and had a easy group (no Bren, F4Q, G2(0-13 vs Gambit))
and even they were 2nd in the group
doesn't make sense to put NRG n Optic in the same spot they're different teams
is just to make them still alive
and because in 2024 +yay -Ardiis is happening
pongo a Gambit mas arriba pq tuvieron al GOAT en su equipo (Chronicle), porque dieron el mejor partido de la historia (VS KRU)
Envy is litterally the same team and the same org, only change the name
NRG making +yay and being the same team only with -Marved +s0m
resultwise i mean. nrg went 0-4 against bilibili and I concede the fact that envy were good, but 22 optic were just on another level of dominance
is like saying VS is not DRX or M3C is not GAMBIT
are the same thing, 2022 was PRIME OPTIC but it don't means 2021 and 2023 wasn't optic
Chamber Meta made them the best
again, speaking resultwise. what did vs or m3c accomplish? no doubt they were good teams in their own regard, but the name that they rose to fame with were drx and gmb respectively.
DRX rose to fame with VS by +100 matches in a row without losing
M3C changed name because Russia things
If you think about it, EG only won because LOUD cleared the way for them
they eliminateD FNATIC, EDG, TL, NAVI and bled PRX.
maybe if lowers wasnt so unforgiving when it came to time the result would be different, but, either way congratulations to potter
LOUD is the biggest team ever
so congratulations for being the only one with 2 podiums in Champs
yeah but we cant deny the fact that eg could beat these teams, either way they are the champions of the year
PRX------ 0 TITLES
ACEND is a world champions wtf are you talking about
FPX/NAVI made a lower bracket run and win the chokers(PRX)
Gambit(1st place Masters, 2nd Champs, Chronicle(GOAT), nAts(Valorants creator), BEST MATCH EVER(VS KRU), best play ever (Chronicle ace vs KRU), 2nd greatest comeback in International events (VS VIKINGS))
thers a lot of difference there bro
dont put me out of context
it was comparing a 0 trophies with a world champion
this is comparing a Masters winner with a World Champion
and the Masters winner has some things that makes it bigger
Champs is the biggest tournament
so i think is> lower bracket run in Masters
you said lower bracket run
Gambit didn't do that, i put my points why Gambit>EG
is not only Masters and Champs
is THE GOAT, THE BEST MATCH EVER, THE BEST CHAMPS COMEBACK, THE BEST PLAY EVER, thats it. i think EG doesnt have this
i literally quoted you again. Champs is more important than Masters. EG won champs. Chronicle is great, he's not the goat. Demon1 (can't stand the guy) is currently the best player in the game. Chronicle may have been a year or two ago.
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Loud is the only team made 2 podiums in Champs and win 1 of them
Loud 2-1 Fnatic
Top 3 is very accurate but the rest is hard to say, from the 4th to the 8th I feel that anyone could be in any position, in all cases EG>ACEND
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