- LOUD
- FNATIC
- ENVY/OPTIC/NRG
- GAMBIT/M3C
- EVIL GENIUSES
- ACEND
- FPX/NAVI
- PRX
- DRX/VS
- SENTINELS
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- TL
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- KRU
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TOP 10+2 TEAMS IN VAL HISTORY
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Gutssz [#2]TLthey have soulcas
so they are the real goat team
only reason they're above KRU is Emea League
bigboy [#3]pretty accurate list good job, would place acend lower though
Champs is the biggest tournament
so i think is> lower bracket run in Masters
but is close
YeetusSchmeetus [#6]doesn't make sense to put NRG n Optic in the same spot they're different teams
is just to make them still alive
and because in 2024 +yay -Ardiis is happening
Dolphin [#7]You need to put eg higher than gambit imo
pongo a Gambit mas arriba pq tuvieron al GOAT en su equipo (Chronicle), porque dieron el mejor partido de la historia (VS KRU)
diswaco [#12]nrg/envy aren't comparable to optic imo
Envy is litterally the same team and the same org, only change the name
NRG making +yay and being the same team only with -Marved +s0m
PINTO0 [#15]PRX and DRX 0 titles
SEN is nothing since that Masters
so were FPX, they got outclassed the very next tournament after their title, then they trolled a whole year as NAVI, while PRX/DRX have been consistently top teams for 2 years now
jawn [#18]so were FPX, they got outclassed the very next tournament after their title, then they trolled a whole year as NAVI, while PRX/DRX have been consistently top teams for 2 years now
NAVI qualified to Tokyo and LA
also say that PRX choke 2 finals and DRX didn't even get in a final
so FPX make a LOWER BRACKET RUN and win a PRX that is the biggest choker ever
winae29 [#19]just put envy/optic nrg has two different players
is like only making roster changes
FNATIC still the same without doma, Mistic, Magnum, Enzo
also in 2024 is -Ardiis +yay so is the same thing
PINTO0 [#20]NAVI qualified to Tokyo and LA
also say that PRX choke 2 finals and DRX didn't even get in a final
so FPX make a LOWER BRACKET RUN and win a PRX that is the biggest choker ever
qualifying to an event over winning regional titles and being perma top 6 in said events is crazy
cioccolat [#22]If you think about it, EG only won because LOUD cleared the way for them
they eliminateD FNATIC, EDG, TL, NAVI and bled PRX.
maybe if lowers wasnt so unforgiving when it came to time the result would be different, but, either way congratulations to potter
LOUD is the biggest team ever
so congratulations for being the only one with 2 podiums in Champs
jawn [#18]so were FPX, they got outclassed the very next tournament after their title, then they trolled a whole year as NAVI, while PRX/DRX have been consistently top teams for 2 years now
they made top 4 at next tournament
jawn [#23]qualifying to an event over winning regional titles and being perma top 6 in said events is crazy
is crazy meing top 6 and never winning
thats the real crazy thing
falseii [#25]they made top 4 at next tournament
lost to DRX, which apparently is historically worse than them
cioccolat [#22]If you think about it, EG only won because LOUD cleared the way for them
they eliminateD FNATIC, EDG, TL, NAVI and bled PRX.
maybe if lowers wasnt so unforgiving when it came to time the result would be different, but, either way congratulations to potter
yeah but we cant deny the fact that eg could beat these teams, either way they are the champions of the year
PINTO0 [#26]is crazy meing top 6 and never winning
thats the real crazy thing
then SEN above DRX/PRX
Sunrou [#27]prx lower than fpx/navi????
wtf is acend doing herenever let this guy cook
PRX------ 0 TITLES
ACEND is a world champions wtf are you talking about
FPX/NAVI made a lower bracket run and win the chokers(PRX)
bigboy [#16]dont disrespect gambit you dog
Im not saying to kick them of the list, im saying to swap their places
jawn [#30]then SEN above DRX/PRX
are you crazy?
FPX made a top 4 in champs after being champions of Masters
SEN..... NOTHING (1 tournament team)
also is the worst masters ever
NO GROUP STAGE, NUTURN, VERSION1, SHARKS
jawn [#28]lost to DRX, which apparently is historically worse than them
they won against them in the previous tournament and still beating the other teams to get to top 4 is still impressive
PINTO0 [#14]Envy is litterally the same team and the same org, only change the name
NRG making +yay and being the same team only with -Marved +s0m
resultwise i mean. nrg went 0-4 against bilibili and I concede the fact that envy were good, but 22 optic were just on another level of dominance
diswaco [#35]resultwise i mean. nrg went 0-4 against bilibili and I concede the fact that envy were good, but 22 optic were just on another level of dominance
is like saying VS is not DRX or M3C is not GAMBIT
are the same thing, 2022 was PRIME OPTIC but it don't means 2021 and 2023 wasn't optic
Chamber Meta made them the best
PINTO0 [#33]are you crazy?
FPX made a top 4 in champs after being champions of Masters
SEN..... NOTHING (1 tournament team)
also is the worst masters ever
NO GROUP STAGE, NUTURN, VERSION1, SHARKS
they lost at their peak to the teams below them and then fell off while they stayed at the same level, historically DRX and PRX are better
also SEN finished top 6 their next tournament and played in Champs
the real order is: PRX>DRX>FPX>SEN
PINTO0 [#31]PRX------ 0 TITLES
ACEND is a world champions wtf are you talking about
FPX/NAVI made a lower bracket run and win the chokers(PRX)
you're actually braindead
falseii [#34]they won against them in the previous tournament and still beating the other teams to get to top 4 is still impressive
not saying it isn't, just saying PRX and DRX are historically better
PINTO0 [#37]is like saying VS is not DRX or M3C is not GAMBIT
are the same thing, 2022 was PRIME OPTIC but it don't means 2021 and 2023 wasn't optic
Chamber Meta made them the best
again, speaking resultwise. what did vs or m3c accomplish? no doubt they were good teams in their own regard, but the name that they rose to fame with were drx and gmb respectively.
Barre [#36]EG 1st champ and 2nd place masters > Gambit 1st place master and 2nd champs.
Gambit(1st place Masters, 2nd Champs, Chronicle(GOAT), nAts(Valorants creator), BEST MATCH EVER(VS KRU), best play ever (Chronicle ace vs KRU), 2nd greatest comeback in International events (VS VIKINGS))
thers a lot of difference there bro
Sunrou [#39]you're actually braindead
i mean, you're a PRX fan so i respect you can't say FPX/ACEND>PRX
andreziN [#44]fnatic>loud
._.
Loud is the only team made 2 podiums in Champs and win 1 of them
Loud 2-1 Fnatic
jawn [#38]they lost at their peak to the teams below them and then fell off while they stayed at the same level, historically DRX and PRX are better
also SEN finished top 6 their next tournament and played in Champs
the real order is: PRX>DRX>FPX>SEN
top 8*
and only played Champs because they win Masters and had a easy group (no Bren, F4Q, G2(0-13 vs Gambit))
and even they were 2nd in the group
PINTO0 [#45]i mean, you're a PRX fan so i respect you can't say FPX/ACEND>PRX
ACEND... just dont reply to me
PINTO0 [#48]top 8*
and only played Champs because they win Masters and had a easy group (no Bren, F4Q, G2(0-13 vs Gambit))
and even they were 2nd in the group
cool, i'm not saying they shouldn't be last, just saying your criteria are wack as fuck
PINTO0 [#43]Gambit(1st place Masters, 2nd Champs, Chronicle(GOAT), nAts(Valorants creator), BEST MATCH EVER(VS KRU), best play ever (Chronicle ace vs KRU), 2nd greatest comeback in International events (VS VIKINGS))
thers a lot of difference there bro
what?
jawn [#50]cool, i'm not saying they shouldn't be last, just saying your criteria are wack as fuck
my criteria is FPX made a lower bracket run, SEN only won the easiest tournament
PRX even get in 2 finals(lose 1 of them against FPX)
maybe SEN>DRX cause DRX 0 finals. i think the only thing make them better is the 100 matches in a row
still FPX 5/8 majors, Sen 3/8 majors, DRX 7/8 majors, PRX 6/8 majors, but Sen 1 major, FPX 1 major, PRX 0 majors, DRX 0 majors
diswaco [#42]again, speaking resultwise. what did vs or m3c accomplish? no doubt they were good teams in their own regard, but the name that they rose to fame with were drx and gmb respectively.
DRX rose to fame with VS by +100 matches in a row without losing
M3C changed name because Russia things
PINTO0 [#52]my criteria is FPX made a lower bracket run, SEN only won the easiest tournament
PRX even get in 2 finals(lose 1 of them against FPX)
maybe SEN>DRX cause DRX 0 finals. i think the only thing make them better is the 100 matches in a row
still FPX 5/8 majors, Sen 3/8 majors, DRX 7/8 majors, PRX 6/8 majors, but Sen 1 major, FPX 1 major, PRX 0 majors, DRX 0 majors
you're absolutely fucking drunk if you think SEN>DRX, FPX got 1 trophy and one top 4, DRX got 2 top 4s while beating them and 3 top 6s, PRX got 2 top2s and 2 top 4s, they have been better for longer therefore they are historically better
jawn [#55]you're absolutely fucking drunk if you think SEN>DRX, FPX got 1 trophy and one top 4, DRX got 2 top 4s while beating them and 3 top 6s, PRX got 2 top2s and 2 top 4s, they have been better for longer therefore they are historically better
tell me, who's bigger in History
A. Madrid or M. City
and then A. Madrid or Celtic
PINTO0 [#56]tell me, who's bigger in History
A. Madrid or M. City
and then A. Madrid or Celtic
are you trying to compare the absolute behemoth of a trophy room madrid have to FPX's 1 trophy? be fr
jawn [#57]are you trying to compare the absolute behemoth of a trophy room madrid have to FPX's 1 trophy? be fr
and wtf is Atletico Madrid not Real Madrid
just say who's bigger
Atletico Madrid, Manchester City or Celtic
in order
PINTO0 [#58]and wtf is Atletico Madrid not Real Madrid
just say who's bigger
Atletico Madrid, Manchester City or Celtic
in order
madrid > celtic > city
jawn [#59]madrid > celtic > city
Madrid>CELTIC????? WTF
now i see why you say the other things
Celtic and M. City both won a Triplet
A. Madrid never won a Champions
PINTO0 [#60]Madrid>CELTIC????? WTF
now i see why you say the other things
Celtic and M. City both won a Triplet
A. Madrid never won a Champions
was talking about real but yeah if it's atletico: celtic > madrid >= city
jawn [#61]was talking about real but yeah if it's atletico: celtic > madrid >= city
ok ok no problem about that confusion
and in that way Celtic and City won 1 time. so they're FPX and SEN
and A. Madrid never won but get podiums. so it can be PRX and DRX
and you say Celtic> so can say FPX> cause we both know FPX>SEN
in that way if Celtic>A.Madrid>=City
FPX>PRX/DRX>=SEN
PINTO0 [#62]ok ok no problem about that confusion
and in that way Celtic and City won 1 time. so they're FPX and SEN
and A. Madrid never won but get podiums. so it can be PRX and DRX
and you say Celtic> so can say FPX> cause we both know FPX>SEN
in that way if Celtic>A.Madrid>=City
FPX>PRX/DRX>=SEN
so you selectively use trophies>performance to put FPX over DRX/PRX and then performance>trophies to put them over SEN, yeah totally makes sense
jawn [#63]so you selectively use trophies>performance to put FPX over DRX/PRX and then performance>trophies to put them over SEN, yeah totally makes sense
then why you put A. Madrid>=M. City
PINTO0 [#64]then why you put A. Madrid>=M. City
i consider them more relevant domestically, man city is as relevant as fucking everton historically in the prem
PINTO0 [#43]Gambit(1st place Masters, 2nd Champs, Chronicle(GOAT), nAts(Valorants creator), BEST MATCH EVER(VS KRU), best play ever (Chronicle ace vs KRU), 2nd greatest comeback in International events (VS VIKINGS))
thers a lot of difference there bro
"EG is a world champions wtf are you talking about"
jawn [#66]i consider them more relevant domestically, man city is as relevant as fucking everton historically in the prem
thats it i consider PRX/DRX more relevant than SEN
and FPX bigger like Celtic
fatdaddy [#67]"EG is a world champions wtf are you talking about"
dont put me out of context
it was comparing a 0 trophies with a world champion
this is comparing a Masters winner with a World Champion
and the Masters winner has some things that makes it bigger
PINTO0 [#68]thats it i consider PRX/DRX more relevant than SEN
and FPX bigger like Celtic
the analogy is way off, Celtic has way more than just 1 champions league to support the bigger club claim, FPX has 1 trophy, that's it, they were relevant for 3 months and then got outperformed by both PRX and DRX for more than a year straight
jawn [#70]the analogy is way off, Celtic has way more than just 1 champions league to support the bigger club claim, FPX has 1 trophy, that's it, they were relevant for 3 months and then got outperformed by both PRX and DRX for more than a year straight
FPX 1-0 PRX
FPX/NAVI 1-4 DRX
PINTO0 [#69]dont put me out of context
it was comparing a 0 trophies with a world champion
this is comparing a Masters winner with a World Champion
and the Masters winner has some things that makes it bigger
Champs is the biggest tournament
so i think is> lower bracket run in Masters
fatdaddy [#73]Champs is the biggest tournament
so i think is> lower bracket run in Masters
me too Acend>FPX/NAVI
PINTO0 [#21]is like only making roster changes
FNATIC still the same without doma, Mistic, Magnum, Enzo
also in 2024 is -Ardiis +yay so is the same thing
no it’s not it’s like picking up 3 players if Sen sign aspas does that mean they are loud?
PINTO0 [#74]me too Acend>FPX/NAVI
glad we agree, move EG above Gambit/M3C then. they have a Champs win.
fatdaddy [#77]glad we agree, move EG above Gambit/M3C then. they have a Champs win.
you said lower bracket run
Gambit didn't do that, i put my points why Gambit>EG
is not only Masters and Champs
is THE GOAT, THE BEST MATCH EVER, THE BEST CHAMPS COMEBACK, THE BEST PLAY EVER, thats it. i think EG doesnt have this
PINTO0 [#78]you said lower bracket run
Gambit didn't do that, i put my points why Gambit>EG
is not only Masters and Champs
is THE GOAT, THE BEST MATCH EVER, THE BEST CHAMPS COMEBACK, THE BEST PLAY EVER, thats it. i think EG doesnt have this
i literally quoted you again. Champs is more important than Masters. EG won champs. Chronicle is great, he's not the goat. Demon1 (can't stand the guy) is currently the best player in the game. Chronicle may have been a year or two ago.
south_america_best_region [#80]wena pinto, lo desteozaste XD
pana me dice que PRX partio a navi y lit nunca paso
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