1-Acend
2/3-G2/LIQUID
4-Gambit
5-Guild
6-SMB
7-Giants
8-FPX
9/10-OXG/NaVi
11-Fireflux
12-ForZe
What are yours?
1-Acend
2/3-G2/LIQUID
4-Gambit
5-Guild
6-SMB
7-Giants
8-FPX
9/10-OXG/NaVi
11-Fireflux
12-ForZe
What are yours?
doubt they go that low, they look much better compared to challengers 1 rn
I think liquid wins the first match against Acend but acend takes the whole thing
I kinda feel like they f'ed up the first challenger and made many basic mistakes, now they look far better and they seem like they can run multiple comps to surprise enemies
the thing with liquid is they either play good or they play really bad, no in-between
Gambit seem too high up but i completely agree with the top 3 and bottom 9
Ye maybe down to 7, but its hard to say since gambit had no real competition and SMB is very new
this is my ranking (i have not really watched much of CIS and TR tournaments so i dont really know that much about those regions)
probably, the thing is that Giants are not proven against all of the big teams yet so its hard to say where they are, just placing from the last few matches, and i dunno how navi plays
Idk NaVi does have the upset factor but FF does look slightly better in my eyes. Let's see though.
At least U have SMB over forZe. So many people have forZe eliminating SMB for some reason and it actually pisses me off.
Yea sadge. CIS looks so underdeveloped except for Gambit and even NaVi only has the upset factor. They are still not that good.
I want to see G2 succeed like no one else, but if you're setting expectations so high then don't go and hate them if they don't fulfill your expectations :,)
Also, imo Gambit way lower
I wont hate anyone for not matching expectations expect if a team is cocky about it.
1-Acend
2-SMB
3-Gambit
4-TL
5-Oxygen
6-FPX
7-FF
8-Guild
9-ForZe
10-G2
11-Giants
12-NaVi
SMB seem good but not top2 IMO top 5 EU, Gambit seem very overrated, Oxygen and FF aint that good, Forze is last by a mile, G2 and Giants are way better IMO
G2 most overrated shit I've everseen, In praccs, they are beaten by most Turkish teams by far.
Giants's success point is just being a new team. They did smth in EU region in first matchs, because nobody was know their gameplay but they can not do same shit again EMEA.
I like ForZe game style but I don't think they will be successful against other teams. They are good than G2, Giants but not ever than FPX, FF or Guild.
Oxygen already beaten Guild and FF also I think they can beat FPX too and miles way better than lower tier teams.
FF is new team and they have a good gunpower, It's hard to say smth for sure, but they have a high chance of success.
SMB and Gambit Tier A teams of this bracket, sorry but no cap. After than Acend, they will beat others.
Praccs dont mean shit, i see the Giants argument but i still think they have he core mechanics down so good that it will be hard for any team to beat them,
im sorry but it seems like ForZe is not better than G2 and not better than Giants.
Sure Oxygen beat Guild but they lost vs Fnatic and lost BAAD against Liquid
yeah FF is new but it seems like they will not make it far
i agree that SMB might be A tier but gambit is overrated
nvm yours is not the worst i have seen anymore, there are some waay worse down in this thread
So delusional. BTW no Turkish team has ever won against G2, not even cNed's BBL. They also have won ForZe plenty of times although they're different rosters.
At the end of the day you're comparing TR/CIS to a more competitive region
say same shit after they lost 2 - 0 and were eliminated in first pairings.
Everything can happen but G2 is objectively better by far. I don't know if you're writing this seriously but that's some childish logic nobody on this site is taking seriously
I mean put them in a "reasonable" position, but 10th? Now that's personal. You do you:>
Pracs are worthless, ABX destroys 100T and NV and look what happens.
Guild is Cracked idk what u are talking about
Just because a team beat u once does not mean they'll beat u again.
1-Acend
2-FPX
3-G2
4-Gambit
5-SMB
6-TL
7-OXG
8-Guild
9-Giants
10-FF
11-NaVi
12-ForZe
1-SMB
2-FF
3-OXG
4-ACEND
5-GAMBİT
6-G2
7-FPX
8-LIQUID
9-FORZE
10-NAVI
11-VGIA
12-GUILD
1 - Acend
2 - G2
3 - FPX (always a problem because they always choke)
4 - Liquid
5 - Guild
6 - Giants
7 - SMB
8 - Gambit
9 - NAVI
10 - Oxygen
11 - Forze
12 - FF
1-Acend
2 - G2
3 - Guild
4 - FPX
5 - Gambit
6 - Liquid
7 - SMB
8 - Giants
9 - Na'vi
10 - Oxg
11 - Forze
12 - FF
1-Acend
2-G2
3-Liquid
4-FPX
5-Gambit
6-SMB
7-Giants
8-Guild
9-Oxg
10-Navi
11-FF
12-Forze
Edit: Grouped Forze and FF
Edit 2: Sry Turky fans I forgot Socialbee is on FF, yea they are a better then Forze
“Dont watch enough Turkey so this one is based of reading other people's stuff.”
You know those other people also dont watch enough TR right? Im not saying they will be in Berlin but saying SMB 6 and FF 12 is like idk come on FF was pretty close to eliminate SMB, at least put them above forze or something
Yea sry I didn't know where to put FF or Forze but since the majority of people put them at 12th I just put them there. Really the 2 are interchangeable based on what everyone is saying but I only watched a few SMB games and like 2 OXG games so my Turkey list might be a little off
1- Acend
2 - Liquid
3 - G2
4 - FPX
5 - Gambit
6 - Guild
7 - SMB
8 - Giants
9 - Na'vi
10 - Oxg
11 - Forze
12 - FF
1-Acend(%100)
2-G2
3-GAMBİT
4-GUİLD
5-SMB
6-FPX
7-GİANTS
8-LİQUİD
9-FORZE
10-OXG
11-NAVİ
12-FF
positiones between 5-9 are so close for me, sorry if u disagree xD
1- Acend
2- G2
3- Guild
4- Giants
5- SMB
6- Giants
7- FPX / Liquid
8- OXG
9- NAVI
10- Fire Flux
11- ForZe
1- ACEND
2-ACEND
3-ACEND
4-ACEND
5-ACEND
6-ACEND
7-ACEND
8-ACEND
9-ACEND
10- G2/GUILD/VGIA/SMB/FPX/TL/FF/OXG/NAVI/FORZE/GAMBIT
a completely objective approach
ACEND
G2
Guild
Liquid
FPX
Gambit
Giants
SMB
NaVi
FoRzE
Oxygen
Fire Flux
probably a bad take
Not bad, pretty realistic as to what could happen in the tournament. I have your top 4 -guild +fpx making berlin