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the real reason zombs got dropped

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#1
Yuno7

zombs did not get dropped because of poor performances imo his performances were fine considering the extreme selfless role he plays. The main reason for dropping him is to change the culture of the team. Ever since rejkavik last year the culture of the team has just been one of not grinding causing them to fall off and imo zombs is one of the main reasons for this culture taking place with his non grind attitude. Adding kanepeki one of the best rising tier 2 talent who is known for having some of the best work ethic in all of Valorant will change the culture of the team and if a culture shift takes place I believe sen can be one of the best teams in NA again. Again prefacing I don't think zombs lack anything skill wise imo this decision is best for both parties because maybe zombs will wake up and become a grinder like he used to be

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archetype
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they dropped zombs cuz he secretly used SEN money to buy his rolex watches

#3
Fluffyy
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I aint reading all that but
Im happy for you or
Sorry that happened

#4
andrewdamf
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Fluffyy [#3]

I aint reading all that but
Im happy for you or
Sorry that happened

rare w

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Yuno7
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they dropped zombs cuz he secretly used SEN money to buy his rolex watches

lmfao yuh and that

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romanval
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I agree zombs is a good t1 controller player but if he doesn't want to win as bad as some of the rest of them they won't get anywhere, and thats not really on him he has been playing a lot of val for like 2 years and needs a long break

#7
Gorbachov
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No, he got dropped for being dogshit, this website vastly overrates how "selfless" and how good zombs' util is, I've seen this mf Astra stun his own teammates before. You are not on the team, you do not know anything about the teams internal culture or know kanpeki personally enough to know what his work ethic is like

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Giannero
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Gorbachov [#7]

No, he got dropped for being dogshit, this website vastly overrates how "selfless" and how good zombs' util is, I've seen this mf Astra stun his own teammates before. You are not on the team, you do not know anything about the teams internal culture or know kanpeki personally enough to know what his work ethic is like

W

#9
zzzzzzzzz
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he didn't get dropped he left to join stable and become a fortnite pro

#10
JustHunter
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i completely agree and i dont know how other people have not yet realized this. I feel like its quite clear even from the first lan that zombs would be the downfall not because of his skills (cause the dude is seriously really good, the stats dont do him ANY justice at all), but simply because of the fact that zombs is one of those talents that doesnt like working hard. Its been seen from his previous games as well and honestly i just really hope that the dude doesnt end up quitting val and maybe he'll even change his work ethic and they can get him back on sen

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JustHunter
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Gorbachov [#7]

No, he got dropped for being dogshit, this website vastly overrates how "selfless" and how good zombs' util is, I've seen this mf Astra stun his own teammates before. You are not on the team, you do not know anything about the teams internal culture or know kanpeki personally enough to know what his work ethic is like

well the stun was miss timed first of all and secondly it was due to poor comms all around the team. You can see from that round alone that the comms on sen were absolutely atrocious and would continue for the rest of the map
Also zombs has to be one of the best controllers in NA no doubt in my mind at all. The only problem is his uncaring attitude for the game and for most likely practice. The guy is similar to Sinatraa in that he probably just hates trying hard to win and like its more to just win without hard work. This wasnt a problem when sinatraa was on the team cuz sen wasnt the best yet and they couldnt get complacent because they werent able to win every single match in NA let alone the world

#12
SouLCrusher
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Wait am I getting trolled ? Just checked twitter. No mention of zombs leaving Sen

#13
chloeburbank
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archetype [#2]

they dropped zombs cuz he secretly used SEN money to buy his rolex watches

he bought a 500k watch

#14
nutab1e
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SouLCrusher [#12]

Wait am I getting trolled ? Just checked twitter. No mention of zombs leaving Sen

same bruh I'm confused

#15
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SouLCrusher [#12]

Wait am I getting trolled ? Just checked twitter. No mention of zombs leaving Sen

Just rumors, but it seems to be true.

https://www.talkesport.com/news/valorant/report-sentinels-valorant-to-replace-zombs-with-kanpeki/

#16
nutab1e
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Tentativas [#15]

Just rumors, but it seems to be true.

https://www.talkesport.com/news/valorant/report-sentinels-valorant-to-replace-zombs-with-kanpeki/

of all the people to replace him with this just confuses me

#17
number_1_Asphyxia_fan
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nah occasionally people would run into his crosshair and he just wouldn’t shoot his gun or like had a mouse defect or some shit

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Danny
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JustHunter [#11]

well the stun was miss timed first of all and secondly it was due to poor comms all around the team. You can see from that round alone that the comms on sen were absolutely atrocious and would continue for the rest of the map
Also zombs has to be one of the best controllers in NA no doubt in my mind at all. The only problem is his uncaring attitude for the game and for most likely practice. The guy is similar to Sinatraa in that he probably just hates trying hard to win and like its more to just win without hard work. This wasnt a problem when sinatraa was on the team cuz sen wasnt the best yet and they couldnt get complacent because they werent able to win every single match in NA let alone the world

Zombs hasn’t been one of the best NA controllers since 2021

Compare how he plays compared to people like Marved, Zander, Valyn, and Vanity

He’s significantly worse performance wise than all of them, and all except Marved are IGL’ing as well

#19
m11lan
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JustHunter [#10]

i completely agree and i dont know how other people have not yet realized this. I feel like its quite clear even from the first lan that zombs would be the downfall not because of his skills (cause the dude is seriously really good, the stats dont do him ANY justice at all), but simply because of the fact that zombs is one of those talents that doesnt like working hard. Its been seen from his previous games as well and honestly i just really hope that the dude doesnt end up quitting val and maybe he'll even change his work ethic and they can get him back on sen

I think after winning master 2 2021 zombs lost interest on competing? Idk
But the fact that zombs doesnt play with SEN full members when they do EU ranked, and choose to sleep, it shows he just like "i got pay for scrimm and competing not playing rank with the boys"

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Yuno7
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Gorbachov [#7]

No, he got dropped for being dogshit, this website vastly overrates how "selfless" and how good zombs' util is, I've seen this mf Astra stun his own teammates before. You are not on the team, you do not know anything about the teams internal culture or know kanpeki personally enough to know what his work ethic is like

Yes ofc but I actually have had the pleasure to talk to kanepeki and know he has an infectious work ethic and a lot of people in the scene have talked ab how insane his work ethic is

#21
JustHunter
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chloeburbank [#13]

he bought a 500k watch

I mean he couldve very well rented it or just borrowed it. I dont think zombs has that kind of money and even if he did im sure he isnt stupid enough to buy a depreciating asset (well at least what i assume would be a depreciating asset)

#22
JustHunter
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romanval [#6]

I agree zombs is a good t1 controller player but if he doesn't want to win as bad as some of the rest of them they won't get anywhere, and thats not really on him he has been playing a lot of val for like 2 years and needs a long break

I have no idea why you have so many negative frags youre literally stating the truth. I really dont understand how ppl can fall into zombs' baits and actually start to hate him its hilarious. He playin the community like a fiddle

#23
JustHunter
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m11lan [#19]

I think after winning master 2 2021 zombs lost interest on competing? Idk
But the fact that zombs doesnt play with SEN full members when they do EU ranked, and choose to sleep, it shows he just like "i got pay for scrimm and competing not playing rank with the boys"

yea exactly it got to his head and he finally got the high of winning without trying. Im assuming he just doesnt enjoy practicing as much or maybe hes lost interest in the game? Idk i honestly dont understand people like him very well but it is a shame that someone as good as him doesnt even try to practice seriously cause i wonder what would happen if he did

#24
JustHunter
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Danny [#18]

Zombs hasn’t been one of the best NA controllers since 2021

Compare how he plays compared to people like Marved, Zander, Valyn, and Vanity

He’s significantly worse performance wise than all of them, and all except Marved are IGL’ing as well

I really hate that argument and comparison cause zombs is completely different to half of those controllers. Also you named 4 controllers from 4 different teams, that doesnt exactly put zombs far down from the number 1 spot does it?
The argument that marved and zander frag out harder while being able to fill the role better is such a stupid one cause the way zombs plays controllers is that he anchors, HARD anchors. He doesnt allow any space for the opponents to get back into the game and thats why hes so dominant. Shahz has even talked about this before on a podcast where the reason why they often look like they throw towards the end of the game is because everyone is fast rotating cause they want the game to end but looking deeper into their games it looks like they all fast rotate throughout the game, except zombs. Once it gets close to match point thats when youll see him make selfish plays and try to go for kills to try to end out the game. That alone already shows how he is able to fill the controller + sentinel role even better than sentinel players can. Zombs also doesnt stat pad, thats why his stats looks so bad, cause even when theyre winning hard or losing, hes still playing that same style by holding the site properly not trying to go for the kills but to delay and to gather information.
Valyn and Vanity play a similar style but theyre sort of half and half. They do go for frags and they dont play nearly as selfless and i do agree that to an extent vanity is a little better than zombs but idk about valyn tho. I think valyn is quite ok
At the end of the day they all play the role that their teams need them to fill

#25
delusional_sentinels_fan1
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they dropped zombs cuz he secretly used SEN money to buy his rolex watches

"secretly" man basically yells every time he gets a new watch

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delusional_sentinels_fan1
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Gorbachov [#7]

No, he got dropped for being dogshit, this website vastly overrates how "selfless" and how good zombs' util is, I've seen this mf Astra stun his own teammates before. You are not on the team, you do not know anything about the teams internal culture or know kanpeki personally enough to know what his work ethic is like

I've watched him get astra diffed by so many players in just NA but people keep insisting that his util is the best when it's not even close

#27
tinted
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wait did he actually get dropped? i thought they were still negotiating and roster lock was a while ago now

#28
since_beta
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They still have ratzham

#29
kapteN
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JustHunter [#21]

I mean he couldve very well rented it or just borrowed it. I dont think zombs has that kind of money and even if he did im sure he isnt stupid enough to buy a depreciating asset (well at least what i assume would be a depreciating asset)

watches of that pricerange do not really depreciate. Could even appreciate over time

Caveat: no clue which one in specific he bought

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Yicko
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JustHunter [#24]

I really hate that argument and comparison cause zombs is completely different to half of those controllers. Also you named 4 controllers from 4 different teams, that doesnt exactly put zombs far down from the number 1 spot does it?
The argument that marved and zander frag out harder while being able to fill the role better is such a stupid one cause the way zombs plays controllers is that he anchors, HARD anchors. He doesnt allow any space for the opponents to get back into the game and thats why hes so dominant. Shahz has even talked about this before on a podcast where the reason why they often look like they throw towards the end of the game is because everyone is fast rotating cause they want the game to end but looking deeper into their games it looks like they all fast rotate throughout the game, except zombs. Once it gets close to match point thats when youll see him make selfish plays and try to go for kills to try to end out the game. That alone already shows how he is able to fill the controller + sentinel role even better than sentinel players can. Zombs also doesnt stat pad, thats why his stats looks so bad, cause even when theyre winning hard or losing, hes still playing that same style by holding the site properly not trying to go for the kills but to delay and to gather information.
Valyn and Vanity play a similar style but theyre sort of half and half. They do go for frags and they dont play nearly as selfless and i do agree that to an extent vanity is a little better than zombs but idk about valyn tho. I think valyn is quite ok
At the end of the day they all play the role that their teams need them to fill

no way you think zombs better than valyn

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