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Did EU fall off or is it easy to fluke in Valorant

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#1
Issax28

Went from Top 2 in Iceland and 1st in Berlin/Champions

to

FNATIC - Lost by a huge margin to Bronzil and JP (pretty embarrassing even with 2 stand-ins

Team Liquid - Lost to Bronzil, barely won SEA (2 rounds)

G2 - struggling to win against JP

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Tokyo777
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no GMB bro

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ciro
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Best EU players still playing superior game copium

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PicKaRuu
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FNATIC-2 SUBS
TL-4TH SEED

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Tokyo777
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ciro [#3]

Best EU players still playing superior game copium

cis best in both

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Fluffyy
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Ballsax28

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yuri_tarded
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у фнатик все завязано на том, чтобы помогать дерке найти энтри,логично что без дерке нихуя не работает их система

чоквиды одна из тупейших команд в еу

крейзи раки против гамбит второй раз тоже близко играли и всем похуй было

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WiseGorbachev
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Dogshit take, EU got heavily nerfed due to the Ukraine situation (Best EMEA team not attending, FNC playing without their 2nd best player and derke couldn't play either), also liquid lost to a superteam and JP has vastly improved from being horrible all throughout last year

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ciro
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Tokyo777 [#5]

cis best in both

cis not winning next 2 majors

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ItsMeDio
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in my opinion
the best EU teams rn:

  1. FPX
  2. Gambit (their scedule just fucked them, 6 BO3 in 9 days, and dont forget that FNC vs GMB)
  3. G2/FNC with derke
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WiseGorbachev
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WiseGorbachev [#8]

Dogshit take, EU got heavily nerfed due to the Ukraine situation (Best EMEA team not attending, FNC playing without their 2nd best player and derke couldn't play either), also liquid lost to a superteam and JP has vastly improved from being horrible all throughout last year

Honestly put FPX in here and they win the event without dropping a map

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Sem1-
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Fnatic was basically a ranked team playing against actual teams
Liquid aren't even meant to be here
G2 is a joke

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weferf
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ciro [#3]

Best EU players still playing superior game copium

tier 1 CS NA players like nitr0 or Ethan are not in top 20 players, s1mple still struggling with Valorant, truly copium

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Origin
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ciro [#9]

cis not winning next 2 majors

faze g2 or TL (copium)

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Origin
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fucks sake didnt read the user

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SilentCypher
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Ah yes other regions can never progress!
They don't have the means to review vods, come up with strats / anti strats, grow as a region!
Only EU can progress, others are fixed!

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Ramzz
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SilentCypher [#16]

Ah yes other regions can never progress!
They don't have the means to review vods, come up with strats / anti strats, grow as a region!
Only EU can progress, others are fixed!

For real

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Adruvi17
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Its sadly to say but EU without Russia is clearly worst.

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wiki
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Liquid were never supposed to be here yet beat everyone in groups

G2 didn’t struggle, they 2-0d them?

FNC had two subs

And the best team from EU isn’t even at the tournament (FPX)

There’s no “falling off” it’s just insanely unlucky with the timing.

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Conti
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Liquid never was supposed to be in the event
(SEA is also hella good just look at there past performance 2 teams in champions playoffs)

EMEA does not have their strongest teams FPX Asc and GMB

FNC had TWO subs cmon

G2 still 2-0 them but it was also their first game so a bit rusty

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zz
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wiki [#19]

Liquid were never supposed to be here yet beat everyone in groups

G2 didn’t struggle, they 2-0d them?

FNC had two subs

And the best team from EU isn’t even at the tournament (FPX)

There’s no “falling off” it’s just insanely unlucky with the timing.

g2 vs zeta was supposed to be one-sided and if u thought otherwise then idk.

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tezz1
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how are people this braindead oh nvm its ballsax

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Adruvi17
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wiki [#19]

Liquid were never supposed to be here yet beat everyone in groups

G2 didn’t struggle, they 2-0d them?

FNC had two subs

And the best team from EU isn’t even at the tournament (FPX)

There’s no “falling off” it’s just insanely unlucky with the timing.

First good comment i see.

#24
i_Luv_Eimi_Fukada
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Stupid idiot issax goes get some life. Don't stay on vlr.gg. Otherwise I will sue your mother.

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First, Zeta is not that bad as you say. They improve a lot since the last Masters they qualified.

Second, the first EMEA qualified team is not here like you should know.

Third, TL is playing free the Masters. They didnt qualify.

Fourth, G2 is not dead and I think he has a big opportunity.

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patuj
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Fnatic: 2 subs, one of them being their superstar player.
Liquid: Looked like shit before Masters and changed their comps on pretty much all maps. LOUD is hyped and it wasn't bad game for a team that wasn't even supposed to be there.
G2: Looked bit shaky still especially when it comes to players like nukkye and Meddo. Also scrappy team so you can't look too much on round scores alone IMO.
And then we don't have FPX there or M3C who just looked exhausted against G2.
I think Fnatic with their full roster would have won the tournament same can be said for M3C. I think both of those teams have showed the highest level of competitive Valorant so far in 2022. Don't know about FPX.

COPIUM

#27
xD1LL4N
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classic dumbass issax

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wkeyspectre
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WiseGorbachev [#11]

Honestly put FPX in here and they win the event without dropping a map

wait you said you were going to delete your account if an APAC team took a series against NA

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wkeyspectre
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(average) ballsax28 L take

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minte
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Tokyo777 [#2]

no GMB bro

FPX too

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UnrivaleD
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well the best teams in emea dindt make it , as fpx couldnt attend and fnc with 2 subs , as for g2 they are doing good ,TL are using this tournament just to expirement different things , it took only few weeks to practise new igling process and roles, they still looked super strong in heaven louds pick they played the strongest map in the tournament so far it shows the potential of the roaster , if sliggy wasnt trying weird stuff in qualifiers they couldve been in better spot rn still i believe if he correct some approaches to the game , he difently a really good coach

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AladdinINSANE
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wiki [#19]

Liquid were never supposed to be here yet beat everyone in groups

G2 didn’t struggle, they 2-0d them?

FNC had two subs

And the best team from EU isn’t even at the tournament (FPX)

There’s no “falling off” it’s just insanely unlucky with the timing.

people are dumb as fuck with they think that teams will ''12-0'' every map bc they are from a superior region.
g2 won by 2-0 and ppl saying they ''barely win''

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TmhariMummy
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AladdinINSANE [#32]

people are dumb as fuck with they think that teams will ''12-0'' every map bc they are from a superior region.
g2 won by 2-0 and ppl saying they ''barely win''

Lol if G2 barely won against Zeta and people are clowning G2 for it....then Sen also hardly won against Fnatic....2 OTs and a 13-11.
Most of the people here are hypocrites bruh who just wanna pull a team down whatever way they want. They will put forward mind boggling dogshit takes with utmost confidence..... it's hard to tell if they are baiting or just retarded

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orqn
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stopped reading at Issax28

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zz [#21]

g2 vs zeta was supposed to be one-sided and if u thought otherwise then idk.

I didn’t think otherwise but on ZETA’s pick and G2s worst map obviously it’s not gonna be amazing for G2? And they still win anyway?

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NG1nS
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Origin [#15]

fucks sake didnt read the user

happened to me also XD

#37
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wiki [#35]

I didn’t think otherwise but on ZETA’s pick and G2s worst map obviously it’s not gonna be amazing for G2? And they still win anyway?

wasnt bind g2's pick?

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BBL_Wtcn
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minte [#30]

FPX too

Acend too

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Adaboost
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zeta isn't that bad. if you watches yesterday days game vs G2, most of the rounds are very close, much closer than the 2:0 and 13:7 and 13:10. Liquid lose maps to loud that they played in the group stage. Of course loud have good prep for that so it makes sense they lose by a small margin.

Other regions just got much better.

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whatspoppin
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patuj [#26]

Fnatic: 2 subs, one of them being their superstar player.
Liquid: Looked like shit before Masters and changed their comps on pretty much all maps. LOUD is hyped and it wasn't bad game for a team that wasn't even supposed to be there.
G2: Looked bit shaky still especially when it comes to players like nukkye and Meddo. Also scrappy team so you can't look too much on round scores alone IMO.
And then we don't have FPX there or M3C who just looked exhausted against G2.
I think Fnatic with their full roster would have won the tournament same can be said for M3C. I think both of those teams have showed the highest level of competitive Valorant so far in 2022. Don't know about FPX.

COPIUM

FPX wouldve won easily

#41
XerXa
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zz [#21]

g2 vs zeta was supposed to be one-sided and if u thought otherwise then idk.

Only one map was close and G2 Historically always start bad, just look at them at every tournament, or either they lose to someone that they're better or they struggle against bad teams, anyways they didn't really struggle by their standarts, just look at FPX in Qual masters 3, Liquid in Challengers, FAQ in Berlin, i was even considering that they would lose as their first match, but it's zeta, also first mach on stage + Zeta had the momentum, i mean, yeah consider what you want, but at this point everyone should know how G2 start

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Never_Wrong
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Sem1- [#12]

Fnatic was basically a ranked team playing against actual teams
Liquid aren't even meant to be here
G2 is a joke

That joke assgapped fnc and tl. The excuses lmfao
TL lost
Fnc lost
G2 won
Better

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Never_Wrong
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AladdinINSANE [#32]

people are dumb as fuck with they think that teams will ''12-0'' every map bc they are from a superior region.
g2 won by 2-0 and ppl saying they ''barely win''

Thank you...
The "ifs" & "could"s as well.

Team wins 13-0
Vlr pleb:
"The other team could've won if they scored 13 rounds before them and my father came back. Lucky"

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KnoobDude
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PicKaRuu [#4]

FNATIC-2 SUBS
TL-4TH SEED

Gambit is 6th seed btw

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KnoobDude
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Conti [#20]

Liquid never was supposed to be in the event
(SEA is also hella good just look at there past performance 2 teams in champions playoffs)

EMEA does not have their strongest teams FPX Asc and GMB

FNC had TWO subs cmon

G2 still 2-0 them but it was also their first game so a bit rusty

Version 1 with a sub beat Liquid, FPX with a sub destroyed emea and fnatic can’t beat japan/br seed 2

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XerXa [#41]

Only one map was close and G2 Historically always start bad, just look at them at every tournament, or either they lose to someone that they're better or they struggle against bad teams, anyways they didn't really struggle by their standarts, just look at FPX in Qual masters 3, Liquid in Challengers, FAQ in Berlin, i was even considering that they would lose as their first match, but it's zeta, also first mach on stage + Zeta had the momentum, i mean, yeah consider what you want, but at this point everyone should know how G2 start

sorry bruv i dont follow eu closely.
#VAMOS MIXWELL

#47
titanwithpp
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I wanted to reply but after seeing ballsax I lost all motivation

#48
PicKaRuu
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KnoobDude [#44]

Gambit is 6th seed btw

did I say something about Gambit? I mean FPX should be here and FNC shouldn't have subs in normal circumstances

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tinted
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Tokyo777 [#2]

no GMB bro

fpx and fnc have legitimate excuses. i get that gmb probably had some mental stuff going on that affected their play, but it's still a pretty bullshit excuse.

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Easy_for_MWZERA
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Those EU people are so full of themselves, they think everything is about them... NO EU did NOT fall off, other regions that are getting better my friend.

EU was the most experienced region their learning curve was almost at the end, but the other regions were fresh innexperienced they had much to learn, and they did, eventually they would catch up. It's happening.

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Olofboost
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tinted [#49]

fpx and fnc have legitimate excuses. i get that gmb probably had some mental stuff going on that affected their play, but it's still a pretty bullshit excuse.

GMB is better than TL, it's a bit unlucky they got 5th-6th seed while Lulquid 4th

Although I doubt Gambit would be able to get to Iceland in time anyway

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tinted
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Olofboost [#51]

GMB is better than TL, it's a bit unlucky they got 5th-6th seed while Lulquid 4th

Although I doubt Gambit would be able to get to Iceland in time anyway

it's unlucky that they weren't able to play under gambit. it's not unlucky that they got 5th-6th, they did that to themselves. stop making excuses for them.

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Easy_for_MWZERA [#50]

Those EU people are so full of themselves, they think everything is about them... NO EU did NOT fall off, other regions that are getting better my friend.

EU was the most experienced region their learning curve was almost at the end, but the other regions were fresh innexperienced they had much to learn, and they did, eventually they would catch up. It's happening.

BR Superteam got destroyed by the 4th best EMEA team 13-2 on Haven. Guild destroyed TL btw on the same map.

#54
Easy_for_MWZERA
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Shownu [#53]

BR Superteam got destroyed by the 4th best EMEA team 13-2 on Haven. Guild destroyed TL btw on the same map.

You have to win 2 maps to move ahead, right? What happened there?

#55
Olofboost
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tinted [#52]

it's unlucky that they weren't able to play under gambit. it's not unlucky that they got 5th-6th, they did that to themselves. stop making excuses for them.

Gambit came higher in their group than Liquid
Gambit lost to G2 (26-18)
Liquid lost to G2 (26-8)

What makes you think Liquid is any better lol, they've just been blessed by the fact that FPX couldn't go

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TheGodkira7
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KnoobDude [#45]

Version 1 with a sub beat Liquid, FPX with a sub destroyed emea and fnatic can’t beat japan/br seed 2

Copium

#57
kyo12
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BBL_Wtcn [#38]

Acend too

💀

#58
yuri_tarded
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Never_Wrong [#42]

That joke assgapped fnc and tl. The excuses lmfao
TL lost
Fnc lost
G2 won
Better

G2 lucky to be in playoffs, acend played without their mvp and lost to bbl.

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yuri_tarded
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SilentCypher [#16]

Ah yes other regions can never progress!
They don't have the means to review vods, come up with strats / anti strats, grow as a region!
Only EU can progress, others are fixed!

Other can progress, but emea represented lets say by not the most progressive emea's teams rn

#60
KyLZi
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When will we learn not to respond to this user?

#61
yizuz777
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I think Valorant community is like this region is and has to be better, maybe EMEA is still as good and the other regions improved their level you know, the thing isnt one thing or the other

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Ullyr
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Eu got fked tbf fnatic 2 subs and fpx is suppose to go instead of liquid lol

#63
Kiseki
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Ullyr [#62]

Eu got fked tbf fnatic 2 subs and fpx is suppose to go instead of liquid lol

people don't keep that in mind, i don't understand that xD

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AllMight
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I mean things don't look as good for EMEA because
1 fpx looked really good and they couldn't make it because of 2 Russians in their team
2 Gambit looked really good but after that overtime loss , they went ahead and lost in the lower bracket too but realistically even if they had won, they wouldn't make it either
3 acend has some internal issues going on, bonecold has been dropped and zeek is really going through mental problems rn

  1. Fnatic looked really good as well since they got braveaf and since braveaf is Russian and his pro war comments and derke getting covid just ended fnatic looking weak (rly sad)
  2. G2 struggled with their roster too but in the end they pulled it through
    6 liquid- although liquid didn't qualify they looked real good in the tournament and my loud really is a good team and they deserved winning that match so don't call them bronzil since they're not a weaker region anymore ( If you do you're gonna become a troll soon)
#65
Ullyr
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Olofboost [#51]

GMB is better than TL, it's a bit unlucky they got 5th-6th seed while Lulquid 4th

Although I doubt Gambit would be able to get to Iceland in time anyway

Actually true with the way the bracket played out and g2 knock them out earlier than liquid. Gambit and liquid should have played a best of 3 to decide who to go imo

#66
WezleySnipezz
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Ullyr [#65]

Actually true with the way the bracket played out and g2 knock them out earlier than liquid. Gambit and liquid should have played a best of 3 to decide who to go imo

Where were Gambit competing in Challengers from though? Because if they were in Russia they wouldn't have been able to attend because of international flight restrictions from Russia.
This was part of the reason Fnatic loaned in a sub to replace braveaf, along with his suspension

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yungbasel
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WezleySnipezz [#66]

Where were Gambit competing in Challengers from though? Because if they were in Russia they wouldn't have been able to attend because of international flight restrictions from Russia.
This was part of the reason Fnatic loaned in a sub to replace braveaf, along with his suspension

It's not the flight restrictions. It's the visas

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yungbasel
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Ullyr [#65]

Actually true with the way the bracket played out and g2 knock them out earlier than liquid. Gambit and liquid should have played a best of 3 to decide who to go imo

Huhh? A bo3 for what? They wouldn't be able to get visas due to sanctions, are you living under a rock my friend? :D

#69
Never_Wrong
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yuri_tarded [#58]

G2 lucky to be in playoffs, acend played without their mvp and lost to bbl.

Name. Keep telling that to yourself

#70
yungbasel
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Not that deep, other regions got better plus Emea got nerfed for diff reasons.

#71
DeBugg14
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Ballsax28

#72
wiki
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zz [#37]

wasnt bind g2's pick?

Indeed it was

#73
yuri_tarded
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Never_Wrong [#69]

Name. Keep telling that to yourself

TY!
Didnt expected it😳
Next time instead of this strange way with your name trick to spell it to me just write to me that i am never wrong!

#74
ATLASSTYX
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If FPX were in Masters tho, completely different story

#75
archetype
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wkeyspectre [#28]

wait you said you were going to delete your account if an APAC team took a series against NA

ayo? 🤨📸

#76
CanadianLegend
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tinted [#49]

fpx and fnc have legitimate excuses. i get that gmb probably had some mental stuff going on that affected their play, but it's still a pretty bullshit excuse.

I’m still saying that playing in such a rigorous schedule, it WAS unlucky for them to get 5th-6th because of that schedule…. Basically 3 days of nonstop playing two times, with a 3 day break which was probably used to work on practicing just sounds exhausting

#77
WezleySnipezz
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yungbasel [#67]

It's not the flight restrictions. It's the visas

True, but it is both if they were all in Russia.

#78
luckypleb
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wkeyspectre [#28]

wait you said you were going to delete your account if an APAC team took a series against NA

APAC won 2 series so it cancels out

#79
makoidk
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Origin [#14]

faze g2 or TL (copium)

Twistzz CIS copium C in CIS stands for Canada copium

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