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#1
lorenzopajaroFC

FPX only needs to win against liquid/G2 to qualify, possibly stealing a spot from guild/Fnatic or M3C without even having to compete against them for it.

This format is so broken

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thats the prize for being 1st :))

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true, I haven't thought about it. but they still beat Gambit tho

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JustEnjoying
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wut? they would still have to go through the upper final, no?

edit: nevermind, there are 3 slots, I thought there were 2 😱😱

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lorenzopajaroFC
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JustEnjoying [#4]

wut? they would still have to go through the upper final, no?

edit: nevermind, there are 3 slots, I thought there were 2 😱😱

There are three spots

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JustEnjoying [#4]

wut? they would still have to go through the upper final, no?

edit: nevermind, there are 3 slots, I thought there were 2 😱😱

Teams in upper final qualify

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Group B is overrated, M3C and FPX are the best teams in EMEA

Also G2 is better than Guild and their recent head-to-head proves it

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lorenzopajaroFC [#5]

There are three spots

omg I didn't know that

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thjing [#6]

Teams in upper final qualify

yep thanks

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lorenzopajaroFC
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YalohA [#3]

true, I haven't thought about it. but they still beat Gambit tho

And lost to LDN, group matches from a month ago shouldn’t decide who goes to Iceland, only who qualifies for playoffs

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Olofboost [#7]

Group B is overrated, M3C and FPX are the best teams in EMEA

Also G2 is better than Guild and their recent head-to-head proves it

ok

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lorenzopajaroFC
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Olofboost [#7]

Group B is overrated, M3C and FPX are the best teams in EMEA

Also G2 is better than Guild and their recent head-to-head proves it

LDN better than FPX then because of head to head? That’s not how it works

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valulrantefanboy [#2]

thats the prize for being 1st :))

Any format that allows you to qualify to Iceland by only beating one of the worse teams in the competition is unfair

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Olofboost [#7]

Group B is overrated, M3C and FPX are the best teams in EMEA

Also G2 is better than Guild and their recent head-to-head proves it

no

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lorenzopajaroFC [#13]

Any format that allows you to qualify to Iceland by only beating one of the worse teams in the competition is unfair

They have played for weeks with 5 games now, you can't say only 1 , and they dont fight for 1st for no reason

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lorenzopajaroFC [#13]

Any format that allows you to qualify to Iceland by only beating one of the worse teams in the competition is unfair

There in this position because they beat gambit?

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valulrantefanboy [#15]

They have played for weeks with 5 games now, you can't say only 1 , and they dont fight for 1st for no reason

6 games to qualify for playoffs

Playoffs are a completely different thing because you’re putting teams that haven’t met before to compete

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Tomstar124 [#16]

There in this position because they beat gambit?

Yeah, even though gambit got almost +60 in round differential while FPX only 20

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lorenzopajaroFC [#18]

Yeah, even though gambit got almost +60 in round differential while FPX only 20

Wins a win. In 6 months time I will remember Fpx topped the group and beat gambit not that gambit farmed BiG and LDN

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Should've started 3rd seeds in the lower bracket instead of giving 1st seeds an advantage. That way there's at least 2 games till qualification.

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lorenzopajaroFC
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Tomstar124 [#19]

Wins a win. In 6 months time I will remember Fpx topped the group and beat gambit not that gambit farmed BiG and LDN

Why the hell would you be thinking about this six months from now? Besides, what you’ll remember is not the point at all

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lorenzopajaroFC [#21]

Why the hell would you be thinking about this six months from now? Besides, what you’ll remember is not the point at all

I was just saying people remember who wins not the individual map scores. Winning is what matters not round diff

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lorenzopajaroFC [#13]

Any format that allows you to qualify to Iceland by only beating one of the worse teams in the competition is unfair

"One of the worse" fucking BBL is better than all bronzil

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Adri07_ [#23]

"One of the worse" fucking BBL is better than all bronzil

Lol G2 fans, get me every time, didn’t even mention other regions bro chill

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its like brazil bracket

#26
ZoldyK
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They already beat M3C to come here
Wdym ???

#27
lorenzopajaroFC
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Tomstar124 [#22]

I was just saying people remember who wins not the individual map scores. Winning is what matters not round diff

And that’s the issue I have with it, it’s unfair that FPX gets to qualify without even having to compete with other teams that might not qualify because they didn’t get that chance

#28
lorenzopajaroFC
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Skyss [#25]

its like brazil bracket

And when has copying Brazil ever been a good idea?

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lorenzopajaroFC [#27]

And that’s the issue I have with it, it’s unfair that FPX gets to qualify without even having to compete with other teams that might not qualify because they didn’t get that chance

I don’t understand how you can have an issue with league play? The team that topped the group should gain an advantage Fpx topped the group because they beat a top 3 team in the world and now have benefitted from that. Anyway they still need to beat G2 or liquid and if they do that no one can question if they deserve it or not

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lorenzopajaroFC [#17]

6 games to qualify for playoffs

Playoffs are a completely different thing because you’re putting teams that haven’t met before to compete

Maybe you dont know sports very well and how they work but thats exactly why seeding is so important. If you fight and win good seeding these are the ways that you are rewarded. You are boiling it down to winning 1 game but its not that simple. They had to win a ton of games just to be invited to groups. Then they had to win a bunch of hard groups games to get 1st seed. NOW They only need to win 1 MORE game to seal the deal. And if they win that game they will have earned it. Its that simple. You are giving a 1 head take tbh

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lorenzopajaroFC [#10]

And lost to LDN, group matches from a month ago shouldn’t decide who goes to Iceland, only who qualifies for playoffs

Lost to LDN without their IGL

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Gqviria [#31]

Lost to LDN without their IGL

They’re not getting him back mate

#33
OzyMeister
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why is fpx first seed instead of m3?

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nikoko07
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They went 4-1 in the groups stage, they deserved the first place. All the teams knew the format before the tournament starts. Everyone knew if they make a good group stage they could secure a spot easily. This is how meritocracy works dude wtf

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OzyMeister [#33]

why is fpx first seed instead of m3?

because fpx won m3c

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lorenzopajaroFC [#32]

They’re not getting him back mate

Still, they won against Gambit fair and Square with their whole team, and wheter they qualify or not they deserve it

#37
OzyMeister
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nikoko07 [#35]

because fpx won m3c

ohh but m3c round advantage is much more right?

#38
juno_VLR
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whatever team u support has a 3/6 chance to make masters
any NA team we support has a 2/8 chance to make masters
don't complain about "fairness"

#39
nikoko07
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OzyMeister [#37]

ohh but m3c round advantage is much more right?

when there is a 2 teams tie, the tiebraker is the match between them result

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lorenzopajaroFC
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nikoko07 [#34]

They went 4-1 in the groups stage, they deserved the first place. All the teams knew the format before the tournament starts. Everyone knew if they make a good group stage they could secure a spot easily. This is how meritocracy works dude wtf

Hmm? What? FPX did not go 5-0

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juno_VLR [#38]

whatever team u support has a 3/6 chance to make masters
any NA team we support has a 2/8 chance to make masters
don't complain about "fairness"

true na should only have 1 spot, give your second spot to korea

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lorenzopajaroFC [#40]

Hmm? What? FPX did not go 5-0

4-1* mb

#43
lorenzopajaroFC
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juno_VLR [#38]

whatever team u support has a 3/6 chance to make masters
any NA team we support has a 2/8 chance to make masters
don't complain about "fairness"

??????
I’m from Brazil mate, there’s literally a flag by my name

And how did you make NA be a victim of injustice in this situation

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Tomstar124 [#29]

I don’t understand how you can have an issue with league play? The team that topped the group should gain an advantage Fpx topped the group because they beat a top 3 team in the world and now have benefitted from that. Anyway they still need to beat G2 or liquid and if they do that no one can question if they deserve it or not

tend to benefit by playing a worse opponent not playing less opponents

#45
lorenzopajaroFC
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nikoko07 [#42]

4-1* mb

I’m not saying riot just imposed this out of nowhere, and I know nothing’s gonna change if I complain

I’m just stating my opinion that this format is unfair and much more less entertaining cause not every team is gonna go against eachother and it risks the actual third best team not qualifying

#46
looklook
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liquid is washed anyway

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lorenzopajaroFC [#28]

And when has copying Brazil ever been a good idea?

but brazil only have one slots to masters, the problem is that is the same style for such a discrepancy of slots

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kowacic
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this format dosent work for this much slots

#49
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juno_VLR [#38]

whatever team u support has a 3/6 chance to make masters
any NA team we support has a 2/8 chance to make masters
don't complain about "fairness"

Ask NA teams to be better so they get more slots lol. Also where did NA even come from here wtf

#50
ShyftNot1
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that's why seeding is important and all teams knew that, so i don't know why it would be unfair.

#51
frake_monster
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they became 1st in their group, they deserved it

#52
Tomstar124
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miniature [#44]

tend to benefit by playing a worse opponent not playing less opponents

Both are advantages of finishing top of the group EMEA gave top the of group a bye na gave worse oppo. I’m not saying which I prefer but I disagree saying it’s ‘unfair’ that FPX only play one game to qual

#53
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nah fuck me. i wont reply to anyone again vlr. mybad. am i just that retarded or does this happen to other ppl

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Tomstar124 [#52]

Both are advantages of finishing top of the group EMEA gave top the of group a bye na gave worse oppo. I’m not saying which I prefer but I disagree saying it’s ‘unfair’ that FPX only play one game to qual

it is less fair

#55
Tomstar124
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miniature [#54]

it is less fair

I mean they played a 5 week long league play and have now benefitted with a bye because they won but Agree to disagree I guess

#56
OzyMeister
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nikoko07 [#39]

when there is a 2 teams tie, the tiebraker is the match between them result

ohh okayy

#57
OzyMeister
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miniature [#53]

nah fuck me. i wont reply to anyone again vlr. mybad. am i just that retarded or does this happen to other ppl

happens to all

#58
TomMy_VAL
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.

#59
lorenzopajaroFC
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miniature [#53]

nah fuck me. i wont reply to anyone again vlr. mybad. am i just that retarded or does this happen to other ppl

What happened?

#60
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lorenzopajaroFC [#59]

What happened?

i try to reply to someone and it just posts as a normal post

#61
S0v4k
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miniature [#60]

i try to reply to someone and it just posts as a normal post

Happens when you reply too quickly and the timer appears I think

#62
lorenzopajaroFC
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miniature [#60]

i try to reply to someone and it just posts as a normal post

Happened to me sometimes too, sometimes it just bugs.

If a message appears saying you can’t make so many posts that quickly just refresh the page, you’ll see that your reply was already posted

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Tomstar124 [#55]

I mean they played a 5 week long league play and have now benefitted with a bye because they won but Agree to disagree I guess

well im not really trying to comment on whether they earned the bye vs worse oppo, moreso im tryna say that it is technically more fair to have worse oppo vs the bye. Bye is literally a pass. it is a 1up: free win to "easier win"

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