with the amount of kinky shit the edating scene brings to light Im sure we're well versed as a community

ty ty <3

drop in the ocean by comparison (as far as experience) but I feel like theres alot of context people don't really apply unless you're a competitor. Just trying to explain that a bit.

yea that takes direct knowledge of the team/environment/opinions which I don't have. Might feel good might not. might've already tried it. no idea. Monyet would have to learn alot of agents to not be the raze player and at that point they'd just drop him first (at least thats what Id assume).

ok sorry, I didnt think about how that might look to 2nd lang speakers-Im saying, while playing jett for EG. Instead of putting him on Duelist-think fracture-they put him on brimstone because both Jaw is better at raze and Demon1 would have to also play extremely well in an entirely different playstyle.

agree

My argument is that whoever plays raze will pale in comparison not the team will look bad lmao. Also I don't even know what to respond to because there isn't even an argument here. ZOMG THE GUY WHO PLAYED WITH JINGG FOR YEARS AS DUELIST DUO SWAPPED TO RAZE AND LOOKED GOOD WOWWWW. like ???

I know what your opinion is you need to make an argument for it not just repeat it

Demon1 also never played Raze... idk what the last bit is about. If you believe that Raze is harder than Jett then that's cool I guess.

yea ik that was the point. he played smokes before another entry duelist.

As far as the rest, the reason I brought up disease strains as an analogy: 1 strain can be extremely commonplace and not really dangerous to contract, while another strain of the same disease can be fatal 100% of the time.

The things that Paper Rex are missing have nothing to do with base Raze gameplay. The end.

yea this is not the argument I expected to have in this post

do you think that people are starting to overrate jinggg to put down monyet?

no

you know how diseases have strains? apply that to playing raze. hell apply that to playing reyna in ranked vs tier 1. A generic pro thats comfortable on raze does not get the same shit done that Raid Boss Jinggg would and its not just how mechanically skilled Jinggg is- its playstyle and speed to decision making. Monyet gets alot of false positives but we need to acknowledge how EVERYONE accepts Paper Rex playstyle is unique and insanely volatile/fast paced.

Demon1 played brim before he played raze lets be real here. I have nothing against the dude and I feel like my point doesn't need me to defend it.

edit: also you understand jett entry is smoke-dash into smoke- right?? it is the only duelist that you can make space without dying bc u cant turn fast enough PLUS the design of jett comps is to set that play up with as much util/targeted util as possible. Raze gets a flash or stun and goes WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Demon1 plays 1 role and that is "shoot people that are all explicitly in front of me(no spinny spinny entry shit)" which is at the opposite end of the spectrum from Jinggg: the player with the most fluid movement and dynamic usage of raze in the world on top of insane situational awareness and aim.

Im not trying to talk shit about Demon1 but the complexities of the 2 roles we're talking about here are not even close.

I agree with the sentiment more than the broken down example used. demon1 was know for exactly what eg wanted him to do within the region or scene at least.

:P

he seems like a great dude, insane vibes at least visually through the turmoils hes been going through. Im 25 and I have to give huge props to this guy's mentality at 18. he looked, BETTER but that consistency Jingg brought is a ways away.

yea it looks really good but forsaken has become such an insane flexible player itd be funky working monyet into such varied agent picks. lots of reasons for and against that I can think of.

Personally I have been critical of Monyet and his performances, but for the sake of sportmanship and just acknowledging the situation in general; Most teams change to fit their new player, this team had the new player change to fit the team.
I promise the amount of pros we all know, love, look up to, anything-are not capable of performing in a system that is made for other people. He has so much energy its so fun to watch him-its starting to feel like just beating a dead horse purely to make someone feel like shit. It'd be one thing if there were more arguments made saying he isnt statistically in the dumps but I dont see that.

Paper Rex ran raze all the time because jinggg is the goat. Their playstyle as a team developed around that potential. You can not fill those shoes.

I know I'm not changing human nature with this post; I just want people to think about how viciously the scene is going after a guy that nobody could TRULY replace. omg player do so bad must replace!!!! With who?

yep thats going in my retirement tweet

195cm 95kg
6'5 210

dude leaf takes 18 swipes and a mortgage to do a 180 its fine to put him on senti. icy is a good listener duelist relax.

delete this

You think he'd stay there if that position is offered? I have no idea but you act like theres permanence in the move to EU

u got it bro

bc this post has no point. if we're saying the org didnt actually do a shitty powermove the title "lev lied" is just brain damaged bc its implying theyre bad when they're theoretically the good guys. and if we're talking shit about any of the players that half the post is about (what my post is memeing) then its also brain damaged. matching energy

wdym a player didnt just nuke bridges bc an esports org did something naughty? must be an inside job! thank you for bringing this to our attention I say we storm brazil

america has always helped their french allies succeed vs the british

thanks man! feels good to have your support after a short disagreement! im glad we could put our differences aside :)

u can bm all u want Im proud of the skills I've gained from the time I've spent, not proud of how long it took to realize the importance of team environments>skill + brain. and at the end of the day ur still more broke than me

lotta unactivated gaming sadge

yea thats what im cookin i gotchu

yea lets shit talk a guy that can play 10 agents at a professional level and u 1trick reyna hardstuck silver

tdawg how the fuck could u do this to bob ross

it is dependent on how many consistent options you have on a map to win a round. A map like icebox does not require u to be able to push thru contested space the same way bind or ascent does. Short answer is yes, real answer is jsut depends on what map/meta

My studies indicate most people's solution to this predicament is to throw ranked games. Try that

carry on the legacy of successful mikes in NA

yes sir

nono his teammates are the drones

give him a yoru sage on his team to trade decoy and rez + his teammates and he'll drop 50 every game

not really tryna put out my opinion on who>who in value, but what statistics are you talking about????? all time? like?

fax

I think I saw someone win a court case like this

REEEEEEEEEEEE

Lord above, spare this blasphemy from divine retribution. Amen

"stop dying" ez fix

haloooooooooooooooo

yea amongst other things, there are things on the horizon to bring some life back into the game. We use the term dying when we just see a negative trend pretty consistently. serious or not. not calling for a change in word use but we don't tend to mean it the same way. The over inflation of org involvement specifically in NA was never going to last and nobody ever expected it to last, even back then the main reason i remember the orgs were in to begin with was the potential to get a foothold as a big name once the franchise system came into play.

pickem, tierdown, fame, yes. the other 3 i dont think would end up being recurring but the 1offs would be fun

I heard tenz didn't return his shopping cart once. absolute criminal

I have too many friends to make any real comments here, but I do understand basing a pre-season ranking off of firepower. I personally value the system of a team more than the players on that team alone.

So to use an example of something that could happen; replacing aspas as a duelist can be a hit or miss change with how they, at least previously, played a decent portion of their rounds. Now naturally theres going to be a really good understanding of what aspas's job was bc the system remains. BUT, there may be a couple things that teams only try to counter-strat come season matches. aspas could have a better idea of what that may look like vs someone who is stepping into the system, therefore the "hit or miss" aspect. Firepower isn't necessarily a concern there.

is that gonna happen? i would say no. esp with half the map pool changing, but theres a lot of those hypothetical scenarios for most of these teams.

they need to add a 6th man just to do their content creation then give them a single match as payment