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Its just insane how good they actually were in 2023. 3 losses the whole season is just insane. (TL, LOUD, LOUD) LOUD genuinely were FNC's kryptonite. I will always argue if FNC faced EG/PRX instead of LOUD, they wouldve won champs.
should've been LOUD, TL, LOUD, LOUD
FNC would lose to PRX and EG at Champs
EG Demon1 didnt practice with the team at Tokyo and PRX something (Pacific MVP) was not there, both because of VISA issues
I will always argue if FNC faced EG/PRX instead of LOUD, they wouldve won champs.
nah this is the problem with FNC 23 run the amount of question marks it had FNC 23 was the best team itw no doubt about it but during tokyo both of the 2nd and 3rd placed team(otherwise known as there only competition for the trophy) had roster issues
Demon1 up until basically day of the tourney when EG fully wasted all there prep with a sub
prx hard cgrs(gekko one trick before he was actually good) for the whole tourney cause T2 japan player smth didnt get a visa somehow
and lock in ofc
Demon1 up until basically day of the tourney when EG fully wasted all there prep with a sub
I mean thats slightly wrong. He done an interview once they beat LOUD in the playoffs. And it says he had 3 days of practice before the event started, also they practiced throughout the tournament aswell. https://esports.gg/news/valorant/eg-demon1-track-vct-tokyo-masters-2023/
PRX if they had something would've probably beat EG 3-2 in Tokyo, but FNC dismantled EG 3-0 in the grand final its hard to argue PRX with something would've beaten them.
In champs PRX played 6 games. 5/6 had pearl (FNC's perm ban) basically it was like EG's fracture. They were purely winning because teams didn't ban it against them lol. in a bo3 & bo5 I think FNC wins against them. Now EG is much harder, because FNC wouldnt ban their fracture so it'd basically be 1 map down.
edit: to add on, LOUD were basically FNC but brazilian. They had pretty much the same map pool, it mainly came down to who anti'd who or who out aimed who on the day. with LOUD going out "early" in Tokyo, they didnt show much so it was kinda hard to analyse their gameplay & come up with an anti especially when you have prime aspas & less on the team with prime saadhak igling. So their first encounter LOUD beat them 2-0, in their second encounter imo I think mini & boaster probably prepped tf out of their bind and hoped LOUD picked it, because DRX destroyed them 13-1 on it the game before and they floated it, but LOUD ended up banning it, so they played Haven which I assume LOUD prepped heavily for. (as it was FNC's best map atm iirc)
I mean thats slightly wrong. He done an interview once they beat LOUD in the playoffs. And it says he had 3 days of practice before the event started, also they practiced throughout the tournament aswell.
those 3 days are 1 jet lagged 1 scrambling to fill in demon1 on everything 1 day not exerting yourself fully before a match even with practicing throughout the tourney that isn't nearly enough to do anything at all which was pretty clear with the boostio reyna
PRX has a much better match up into FNC play style wise while imo with something in his best form i agree its hard to argue but it is a question mark 100% that is bare minimum a 10% better chance to win that game which is alot
and the biggest issue how fatigued FNC were and would've been by then being the biggest issue and main thing that probably stops them from winning especially with PRX also beating loud that very champs with loud at there best just after beating FNC 2-0 you can make a very similar case for prx at champs against loud as you did for prx at tokyo especially with loud winning that match up twice
i feel like they couldve won a bo5 if they stretch out long enough which they for sure could cause they had double map ban and could easily have pearl in that pool and the bo3 they would've had FNC was in pretty terrible form so i doubt they get double ban
mini is confident they would've beaten eg on fracture with their prep for champs. Loud single handedly threw them out of the tournament sadly lol
Well its obvious. Noone every even came remotely close. Even G2 flopped hard in the biggest matches depite their strong winrate.
if my aunt had man parts she would be my uncle
should've been LOUD, TL, LOUD, LOUD
The loud lost in lock in was the greatest choke in the history of this game + loud proved that in champions destroying fnc 2 times
Both teams just sucked on defense. If fnatic started on attack, you wouldn't be calling this a choke
FNC was up 2-0. you could spin this the other way
Most overrated team oat. In tokyo they played an EG with demon1 who had visa issues, PRX didn't even have something, loud had internal issues. In champs 2023 what do you know they placed in their rightful spot at 4th once all these issues were resolved. Even if they got past Loud they aren't beating an EG who looked way better than their tokyo form, or PRX with something.
this visa issue narrative is way too overblown
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