Should India have their own tier 2 region?

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Red2TPower
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Do you guys think India and the Phillipines should have their own tier 2 region, since GE won 2026 VCT Pacific Stage 2?

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okbenzene
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yes

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Bigfish
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There is no point if you can count their radiants on one hand

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Punish3rlp
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how many t2 indian players were in GE when they won Stage 2 which was a fluke anyway???

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SLG_Spectre
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Bigfish [#3]

There is no point if you can count their radiants on one hand

There's a good reason for that the rr gains are smaller in Mumbai since there was initially a smaller pool of high elo players leading to everyone's mmr being lower so it's a vicious circle that feeds into itself making it almost impossible to even hit radiant unless you play singapore or hong kong in which case you're ping will hold you back heavily.

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Why the fuck does vietnam get their own region but India Phillipines and Singapore don't. Imagine you can't qualify because you have to get past fucking prx all the time while weakass Japanese and Vietnamese teams get a direct ticket

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Timmy9
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There are no good Indian or Filipino players. It would just be a waste of money

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Fool69
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SLG_Spectre [#5]

There's a good reason for that the rr gains are smaller in Mumbai since there was initially a smaller pool of high elo players leading to everyone's mmr being lower so it's a vicious circle that feeds into itself making it almost impossible to even hit radiant unless you play singapore or hong kong in which case you're ping will hold you back heavily.

then why there is smaller pool of high elo players???

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SLG_Spectre [#6]

Why the fuck does vietnam get their own region but India Phillipines and Singapore don't. Imagine you can't qualify because you have to get past fucking prx all the time while weakass Japanese and Vietnamese teams get a direct ticket

why would Sg get its own subregion 😭

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Fool69 [#8]

then why there is smaller pool of high elo players???

Most likely the playerbase is too small, hence why there is no point for an entire region

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Punish3rlp
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Siuuuuuuunaldo [#9]

why would Sg get its own subregion 😭

why would India get their own sub region just because GE won with no indian player in their team btw

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Bigfish [#10]

Most likely the playerbase is too small, hence why there is no point for an entire region

Player base is good but there's large skew of players in low elo. The main issue is most players can't play sg or other servers due to high ping. So they are stuck playing the same 100-200 people every game

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Fool69 [#8]

then why there is smaller pool of high elo players???

Because pushing past immortal 2 in Mumbai is absolute hell. You gain like 15 rr for an mvp and lose 20+

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Siuuuuuuunaldo [#9]

why would Sg get its own subregion 😭

Motiv prx bleed

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Timmy9 [#7]

There are no good Indian or Filipino players. It would just be a waste of money

Ok I can understand the argument that Indian players aren't good but I BEG your finest pardon.

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TMosura
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SLG_Spectre [#14]

Motiv prx bleed

we are not deadass putting Bleed into the conversation here; I love my Singaporean friends but even they know they were a disaster

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CaxTonYT
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Timmy9 [#7]

There are no good Indian or Filipino players. It would just be a waste of money

Patmen Xavi invy i can name more

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Siuuuuuuunaldo
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SLG_Spectre [#14]

Motiv prx bleed

they would need to play 3 sg players , gl

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Punish3rlp [#11]

why would India get their own sub region just because GE won with no indian player in their team btw

Large playerbase , may not be at a high level rn but could improve with better opportunities atleast the newer ones
Sg has such a low population lol

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The problem is whether or not they deserve it (they do) but it's more is it profitable and sustainable to uphold those two regions where the TO selections are lacking and the prospect of the higher ups looking at it in a more business perspective than what we see on the ground

Which, I might say, is a tragedy in itself.

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SLG_Spectre [#6]

Why the fuck does vietnam get their own region but India Phillipines and Singapore don't. Imagine you can't qualify because you have to get past fucking prx all the time while weakass Japanese and Vietnamese teams get a direct ticket

phillipnies-idk
sg-they are ass
india-no talent pool same 10 players get recycled every year
viet-idk
JP HAVE STRONGEST T2 ENVIROMENT IN THE WORLD,MORE POPULAR,MORE FANS,MORE MONEY,MORE PLAYERBASE ETC

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Timmy9
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CaxTonYT [#17]

Patmen Xavi invy i can name more

If they are good why didn't the Filipino representative get/keep them?

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Punish3rlp
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Siuuuuuuunaldo [#19]

Large playerbase , may not be at a high level rn but could improve with better opportunities atleast the newer ones
Sg has such a low population lol

I would agree with you if an Indian based org with Indian players win something next year until then nope

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TMosura [#20]

The problem is whether or not they deserve it (they do) but it's more is it profitable and sustainable to uphold those two regions where the TO selections are lacking and the prospect of the higher ups looking at it in a more business perspective than what we see on the ground

Which, I might say, is a tragedy in itself.

Mumbai has a huge viewerbase and while not all the playerbase is high elo a large percentage of them are really into watching eSports.s

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CaxTonYT
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SLG_Spectre [#24]

Mumbai has a huge viewerbase and while not all the playerbase is high elo a large percentage of them are really into watching eSports.s

Please be for real, India can barely produce one decent team.

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CaxTonYT
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Timmy9 [#22]

If they are good why didn't the Filipino representative get/keep them?

You mean secret?

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CaxTonYT [#26]

You mean secret?

Yes. They are the only "Filipino" VCT team

#28
Klawed
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Timmy9 [#22]

If they are good why didn't the Filipino representative get/keep them?

TS management sucks ass what do you expect

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CaxTonYT
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Timmy9 [#27]

Yes. They are the only "Filipino" VCT team

Are you for real? Secret is notorious for their bad scouting

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Bigfish [#3]

There is no point if you can count their radiants on one hand

rn there are 0 and unc SK rossi is the 4th highest rated player in India

https://tracker.gg/valorant/leaderboards/ranked/all/default?platform=pc&region=ap&act=8102cd81-43a0-d0d7-bd59-47b8fe9bed1b&country=in&page=1

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Timmy9
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CaxTonYT [#29]

Are you for real? Secret is notorious for their bad scouting

Bad management/Scouting for 4/5 years? At least other underperforming VCT teams kept their star players like DFM and C9, Secret just let him go.

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Timmy9 [#22]

If they are good why didn't the Filipino representative get/keep them?

2 of them just won Stage 2 and the other guy plays for PRX , wdym they are not good lmao

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okbenzene
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CaxTonYT [#25]

Please be for real, India can barely produce one decent team.

just get me in a team ill carry us to a champs trophy

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Anguibok
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Currently, based on premier data, India have a bigger playerpool than TR, BR, JP. It would make no sense to not give them a region. It may not be profitable day 1 but in the long run it will be a market as juicy as China if the card are played correctly.

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Fool69 [#21]

phillipnies-idk
sg-they are ass
india-no talent pool same 10 players get recycled every year
viet-idk
JP HAVE STRONGEST T2 ENVIROMENT IN THE WORLD,MORE POPULAR,MORE FANS,MORE MONEY,MORE PLAYERBASE ETC

jp is the best t2 in everything but actual skill

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okbenzene [#33]

just get me in a team ill carry us to a champs trophy

1

#37
nmshowl
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Anguibok [#34]

Currently, based on premier data, India have a bigger playerpool than TR, BR, JP. It would make no sense to not give them a region. It may not be profitable day 1 but in the long run it will be a market as juicy as China if the card are played correctly.

rare sighting of a person with some iq

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CinnamonStew34s
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wdym they alr do

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