marteen is almost everytime last alive. but if its aspas?? the community will execute him
marteen aspas hypocrisy
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probably because aspas plays entry roles whereas marteen is exclusively second duelist
aspas has never won a clutch in his life, marteen is consistently insane in late rounds
Castawaytwizz [#4]probably because aspas plays entry roles whereas marteen is exclusively second duelist
both have the same job. someone baits for them while they kill.
Big_Potato [#2]check marteen's teammates and check aspas' teammates
both are shite with one exception
minny on senti
zekken on duel
aspas is literally the entry duelist; jett, raze, etc.
marteen plays yoru, phoenix, ig raze on lotus, but he's never entry duelist; minny is exclusively on neon, and neon is the entry duelist to break crosshairs
aspas is supposed to make space for the team; marteen is supposed to capitalize on space, and capitalize he does
Congo1 [#8]Is Marteen primary duelist you fucking retard?
Yooooo the discussion is getting heated about nonsense again
You are not seeing aspas doing what marteen does😂😂😂 aspas looks more like lovers rock tbh last alive with the op going to save the 5th round... At least lovers rock is on yoru
if my teammate could carry my ahh, win clutches, and build up his highlight reel like marteen, i would let him bait me. I would jump for him, give him my gun, I would do anything.
Aspas is not marteen though, he just statpad, has no impact, and lose clutches.
ScoutViolet [#10]aspas is literally the entry duelist; jett, raze, etc.
marteen plays yoru, phoenix, ig raze on lotus, but he's never entry duelist; minny is exclusively on neon, and neon is the entry duelist to break crosshairsaspas is supposed to make space for the team; marteen is supposed to capitalize on space, and capitalize he does
im not talking necessarily about their roles. but both have someone baiting for them while they go for the trade. but aspas gets hated for the same thing. i do agree tho , aspas does bait alot
mondely [#13]if my teammate could carry my ahh, win clutches, and build up his highlight reel like marteen, i would let him bait me. I would jump for him, give him my gun, I would do anything.
Aspas is not marteen though, he just statpad, has no impact, and lose clutches.
aspas is having a bad year. its quite obvious. i still saw ppl hating on him when he broke the kill record last time in champs for the same thing
Divine_Thunder [#7]both have the same job. someone baits for them while they kill.
marteens role isnt entry he is second duel but aspas is main duelist you cant bait phoenix with neon or jett lol
Divine_Thunder [#14]im not talking necessarily about their roles. but both have someone baiting for them while they go for the trade. but aspas gets hated for the same thing. i do agree tho , aspas does bait alot
literally that's the definition of roles
the primary duelist is expected to entry and make space; the secondary duelist is NOT expected to do that, hence why aspas gets hate
so people get mad at aspas because he doesn't make space for the team, not necessarily because he baits (not making space = baiting in this case). people don't get mad at marteen because he's not supposed to make space; he's supposed to capitalize on the space that minny creates as entry duelist, and he does that really well, so he's doing great in his role, whereas aspas is not.
you can't compare the two as both baiters, ignoring roles, because there IS a role differential, just like you can't expect an initiator to entry frag. You almost WANT marteen to bait, whereas you want aspas to entry
ScoutViolet [#17]literally that's the definition of roles
the primary duelist is expected to entry and make space; the secondary duelist is NOT expected to do that, hence why aspas gets hateso people get mad at aspas because he doesn't make space for the team, not necessarily because he baits (not making space = baiting in this case). people don't get mad at marteen because he's not supposed to make space; he's supposed to capitalize on the space that minny creates as entry duelist, and he does that really well, so he's doing great in his role, whereas aspas is not.
you can't compare the two as both baiters, ignoring roles, because there IS a role differential, just like you can't expect an initiator to entry frag. You almost WANT marteen to bait, whereas you want aspas to entry
i understand what u are saying. im talking about the exact thing which starxo did in the last rnd(jumped out of the cage first and marteen got the kill)
aspas does not create space is the point i agree. but i was talking about that exact context
aqu4zry [#9]both are shite with one exception
minny on senti
zekken on duel
you really cold mazinho and verno shite? brother you have never watched an Americas game
Divine_Thunder [#18]i understand what u are saying. im talking about the exact thing which starxo did in the last rnd(jumped out of the cage first and marteen got the kill)
aspas does not create space is the point i agree. but i was talking about that exact context
and no one hates aspas for just one round we complain about him because of consistent behavior
also i wouldn't criticize marteen for that it should be minny out first, i don't know why starxo jumped out before his haunt revelead or was shot - but still it's just one round
TEKniqueW [#19]you really cold mazinho and verno shite? brother you have never watched an Americas game
who dafuq is mazinho
Big_Potato [#2]check marteen's teammates and check aspas' teammates
They're only doing bad because he baits btw
Galactc [#22]They're only doing bad because he baits btw
aspas is playing raze, neon, waylay, jett as primary duelists. marteen is playing phoenix, yoru, raze as a secondary duelist
what exactly do you want him to do here? entry as phoenix? i’m sure that worked out so well for seven & satellite in t2
MrBlooBloom [#5]aspas has never won a clutch in his life, marteen is consistently insane in late rounds
You are so wrong saying that aspas cant clutch lol
ScoutViolet [#20]and no one hates aspas for just one round we complain about him because of consistent behavior
also i wouldn't criticize marteen for that it should be minny out first, i don't know why starxo jumped out before his haunt revelead or was shot - but still it's just one round
wdym no one hates Aspas
TheAssGamer69 will hunt u down for that
TEKniqueW [#19]you really cold mazinho and verno shite? brother you have never watched an Americas game
true :D
Epiii__ [#25]You are so wrong saying that aspas cant clutch lol
on my life he never plays clutches to win. Y'all think he can clutch just cuz of that optic bind clutch but it's obvious that he plays for stats in clutches. Always too slow, always too careful, never making the right assumptions and going for plays
ScoutViolet [#17]literally that's the definition of roles
the primary duelist is expected to entry and make space; the secondary duelist is NOT expected to do that, hence why aspas gets hateso people get mad at aspas because he doesn't make space for the team, not necessarily because he baits (not making space = baiting in this case). people don't get mad at marteen because he's not supposed to make space; he's supposed to capitalize on the space that minny creates as entry duelist, and he does that really well, so he's doing great in his role, whereas aspas is not.
you can't compare the two as both baiters, ignoring roles, because there IS a role differential, just like you can't expect an initiator to entry frag. You almost WANT marteen to bait, whereas you want aspas to entry
The role of an entry isn't to survive every round it's to create space for the team, even if that means dying. But when Aspas creates space even at the cost of his life, people call him washed. If he survives or doesn't take first contact every round, they call him a baiter instead.
I mean shit, I used to criticize Aspas for baiting too. But over the past few months he's been taking first contact, entrying for his team, and creating space even if he has to die. Yet he still gets called washed in most watchparty chats (especially FNS and Shanks chat lol). Then when he plays more patiently, it's "Baitpas," "Statpas," and all that. At this point, it just weird behavior 🤷♀️
itsauproblematp [#29]The role of an entry isn't to survive every round it's to create space for the team, even if that means dying. But when Aspas creates space even at the cost of his life, people call him washed. If he survives or doesn't take first contact every round, they call him a baiter instead.
I mean shit, I used to criticize Aspas for baiting too. But over the past few months he's been taking first contact, entrying for his team, and creating space even if he has to die. Yet he still gets called washed in most watchparty chats (especially FNS and Shanks chat lol). Then when he plays more patiently, it's "Baitpas," "Statpas," and all that. At this point, it just weird behavior 🤷♀️
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he4venn [#30]flair
dafuck does that have to do with what i said lmao
marteen = european
aspas = brazilian
thats why
asians and ameritards love to dickride europeans
delusional-brazilian [#32]marteen = european
aspas = brazilian
thats why
asians and ameritards love to dickride europeans
give this guy the jumping to conclusions trophy holy
Marteen is a second Duellist while Aspas is a first entry so not the same
Plus it's easy for Marteen to farm kills when you have corpses in your team that dont frag
SturdyPanda [#33]give this guy the jumping to conclusions trophy holy
aspas needed 2 years straight playing on high level just to enter the goat discursion
EMEA Koreans or NA players have 2 decent games and people starts calling them goat
and when aspas finally got there he out of nowhere became "baiter", "dictator", "statpadder"
its not a conclusion its an obvious fact
delusional-brazilian [#35]aspas needed 2 years straight playing on high level just to enter the goat discursion
EMEA Koreans or NA players have 2 decent games and people starts calling them goat
and when aspas finally got there he out of nowhere became "baiter", "dictator", "statpadder"
its not a conclusion its an obvious fact
People only started calling him this when he decided to insta nuke xenom after champs and get rid of cortez for his lover tex
also the word goat has lost its meaning people use it to just point out a standout player nowadays
SturdyPanda [#36]People only started calling him this when he decided to insta nuke xenom after champs and get rid of cortez for his lover tex
also the word goat has lost its meaning people use it to just point out a standout player nowadays
MIBR got rid of artzin cortezia and xenom due to financial issues and they're 100% getting better paid now at sentinels and furia than when they played for MIBR
You guys find fault with literally everything that aspas does
there's even threads criticizing the nasal protector he uses lmao
faloxxl [#3]aspas impact vs marteen impact
Even in previous years its the same. Yall will have fun this year but when marteen is good for more than year without winning a tropy, watch next year all the switch ups
SturdyPanda [#36]People only started calling him this when he decided to insta nuke xenom after champs and get rid of cortez for his lover tex
also the word goat has lost its meaning people use it to just point out a standout player nowadays
What are you talking about bren started this shit back in 24
delusional-brazilian [#37]MIBR got rid of artzin cortezia and xenom due to financial issues and they're 100% getting better paid now at sentinels and furia than when they played for MIBR
You guys find fault with literally everything that aspas does
there's even threads criticizing the nasal protector he uses lmao
they drop 3 players due to financial issues then proceed to get zekken lol
you guys do the same shit with chronicle yet I dont see a single emea user crying about it
every issue people have with aspas is that he does the shit he does exclusively on agents your supposed to entry on AND marteen has been in positions where hes had to entry and done it, the aspas baiting allegation feed of clips like when aspas sat in mid on abyss for a full minute and then when they had to exec a site tex was fucking entrying on cypher cause aspas wouldnt drop the op and dash in lmao
SturdyPanda [#40]they drop 3 players due to financial issues then proceed to get zekken lol
you guys do the same shit with chronicle yet I dont see a single emea user crying about it
Well, nobody knows how much zekken is earning on MIBR, but he already said he's not playing for money and just wanted to play with aspas
recently aspas said he only stayed at MIBR because he wants to play for abrazilian team.
we dont do anything to chronicle we dont give a shit about ur players
delusional-brazilian [#42]Well, nobody knows how much zekken is earning on MIBR, but he already said he's not playing for money and just wanted to play with aspas
recently aspas said he only stayed at MIBR because he wants to play for abrazilian team.
we dont do anything to chronicle we dont give a shit about ur players
https://www.vlr.gg/718270/why-every-sentence-in-korean-ends-in-mida/#17
https://www.vlr.gg/705645/are-you-scared-gringo/#30
https://www.vlr.gg/702354/chronicle-shameless-behavior/#11
This you twin?
SturdyPanda [#43]https://www.vlr.gg/718270/why-every-sentence-in-korean-ends-in-mida/#17
https://www.vlr.gg/705645/are-you-scared-gringo/#30
https://www.vlr.gg/702354/chronicle-shameless-behavior/#11This you twin?
Where am I calling him baiter statpadder and dictator?
oh ofc i dont need to bcos he's simply ass
itsauproblematp [#31]dafuck does that have to do with what i said lmao
ur right now but do u see me calling him baitpas now?
his playstyle has changed for the better and I appreciate it; his stats may take a hit, but he IS entrying for the team, and has a great secondary duelist (zekken) to join him.
but he was baiting last year and the year before that.
Big_Potato [#2]check marteen's teammates and check aspas' teammates
They are pretty comparable, i dont think Marteen's teammates are bad?
Coronos [#46]They are pretty comparable, i dont think Marteen's teammates are bad?
never said theyre bad
read #24
Big_Potato [#2]check marteen's teammates and check aspas' teammates
why does it matter who is teamates are? the point lowk stands
not that people should hate on marteen, but aspas gets too much hate
you could argue his team last year is worse than current m8
faloxxl [#3]aspas impact vs marteen impact
aspas: World Champion, 2x Americas Champion, 2x Top 3 Champions
Mar: teen
Yeah, it’s not even close
ExCPt [#49]aspas: World Champion, 2x Americas Champion, 2x Top 3 Champions
Mar: teenYeah, it’s not even close
guess the flag impossible challenge
Big_Potato [#2]check marteen's teammates and check aspas' teammates
yk the aspas last alive started when he had shit teamates? thats what his team was known for.
faloxxl [#50]guess the flag impossible challenge
Guess the flair impossible challenge
ExCPt [#49]aspas: World Champion, 2x Americas Champion, 2x Top 3 Champions
Mar: teenYeah, it’s not even close
Washed paychek stealee
ExCPt [#52]Guess the flair impossible challenge
everyone have the M8 flair?
faloxxl [#55]everyone have the M8 flair?
Bro stop replying, this won't give marteen a title.
ExCPt [#56]Bro stop replying, this won't give marteen a title.
aspas only won a trophy in a dinosaur era ( got carried ) btw
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