Why there is no GOAT of Valorant

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This aint CS kids so suck it
There is No one who can be the goat cuz Valorant is so meta based that no one is ever a goat
2021 you could say TenZ but not in 2024
2022 or 23 is a Derke Aspas competition with Boaster and Alfajer and Less and Saddhak somewhere in the mix + the Chron stories but not in 25 or 26
2025 we got the ethan dual champs winner but in 2022 he wouldn't even exist as a contender
So there is no goat of valorant at all
It doesnt matter that oh look Aspas got this K/D or Look Ethan has this much impact or Look TenZ won 2 tournaments or Look Boaster is so consistent. I dont give a fuck the Meta may kill them next year so lick it.
Its why you never truly know who may win a tournament. Lev were expected to be grouped cuz Neon nerfs and spike, but they won London. Mostly everyoneexpected Team Heretics to win Champs 24 but EDG made the cinderella Run, No one saw NRG winning champs 25 and expected FNATIC or PRX to win cuz of their performances.
It proves my point

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thank you captain obvious

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vo0kashuluvr [#2]

thank you captain obvious

The cs kids needed the reality check + im sick of seeing the arguments

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meow :3

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bloodhound
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weird way to spell Ethan

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well there is one guy who has been consistently great throughout all those eras.......starts with a c

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BerLINglazer [#4]

meow :3

meow :3

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localkoolkid [#6]

well there is one guy who has been consistently great throughout all those eras.......starts with a c

cDerke

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Wait why We cant say tenz was the goat in 2024? Didint bro litreally won a Masters

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Bro wrote allat but could've just said Riens or cryocells

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localkoolkid [#6]

well there is one guy who has been consistently great throughout all those eras.......starts with a c

Eh he's the closest i know but he doesnt dominate like a GOAT should.
He just, exists, if you get what I mean.
He isnt a show person or anything

  • he's extremely flexible so he's always a good pick no matter the meta
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localkoolkid [#6]

well there is one guy who has been consistently great throughout all those eras.......starts with a c

cookashu

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Useless_Miks_Ult [#9]

Wait why We cant say tenz was the goat in 2024? Didint bro litreally won a Masters

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Did i not explain it enough
The meta is so inconsistent its pointless to call sm1 a goat

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honestly just a cs frog take, vct needs an era. the villain empire. Every team feels like a cinderella run or a feel-good story but then they fell off and become ''meta abusers''.

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bloodhound [#5]

weird way to spell Ethan

Cheathan

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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tv0rusluke [#10]

Bro wrote allat but could've just said Riens or cryocells

Because?
Sure they're great fraggers no one ever disagrees. But they aint goats

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vo0kashuluvr [#12]

cookashu

Truth nuke but they're not ready to hear it

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Nef0r0 [#14]

honestly just a cs frog take, vct needs an era. the villain empire. Every team feels like a cinderella run or a feel-good story but then they fell off and become ''meta abusers''.

Literally the reason teams win is cuz they find a meta that works for them and run it hard

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kKai0 [#8]

cDerke

weird way to spell cange1 but I fw it

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because there is no dedicated statistics website in valorant, cs has hltv and soccer has all the awards

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#13]

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Did i not explain it enough
The meta is so inconsistent its pointless to call sm1 a goat

You could say that he adapted to 2 different metas

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#18]

Literally the reason teams win is cuz they find a meta that works for them and run it hard

yeah and it just feels weird for the narrative. Like I want to get into vct as much as into CS, but the representatives of regions change every fucking time, I don't even know what a good team is as a new fan. There are good patch teams, and bad patch teams, but then I will hop in on a stream 2 months later during champs and some team I haven't seen this year is dominating

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asunaluvr [#7]

meow :3

meow :3

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ccccc_ [#20]

because there is no dedicated statistics website in valorant, cs has hltv and soccer has all the awards

Dont think that's the problem but sure ig

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bloodhound [#5]

weird way to spell Ethan

far too petty plus we're revisionist did you see 2024

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Nef0r0 [#22]

yeah and it just feels weird for the narrative. Like I want to get into vct as much as into CS, but the representatives of regions change every fucking time, I don't even know what a good team is as a new fan. There are good patch teams, and bad patch teams, but then I will hop in on a stream 2 months later during champs and some team I haven't seen this year is dominating

Literally every tournament is that. On one hand its fun to see cuz good Valorant, on the other, I like teams and i want To see them win

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Useless_Miks_Ult [#21]

You could say that he adapted to 2 different metas

Goat = greatest of All time...
All Time
TenZ peaked in 2021 and 2024, not 2021 to 2024

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#24]

Dont think that's the problem but sure ig

that is truly the problem

if we have valorant version of ballon d'or and someone get it twice or three times, he will be the goat

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#26]

Literally every tournament is that. On one hand its fun to see cuz good Valorant, on the other, I like teams and i want To see them win

lowk riot need to chill with so many updates, or just don't change the meta this drastically, let the teams and scene build themselves imo. 2023 was enteraining cuz you had the big teams (fnatic, loud, prx), and the underdogs (eg), so there was this distinction. Rn it's just a mess

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ccccc_ [#28]

that is truly the problem

if we have valorant version of ballon d'or and someone get it twice or three times, he will be the goat

Did you know that CS and soccer dont have like really reality defining metas like val does
Like CS sure has weapon meta's but realistically they still ask you to aim...
Val meta's you had an agent who could literally nuke all the cover you had to flush people out

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ccccc_ [#28]

that is truly the problem

if we have valorant version of ballon d'or and someone get it twice or three times, he will be the goat

meta is changing almost constantly, there wasn't a back 2 back winner since 2023, how do you even get 2-3 top 1s??

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in valorant its difficult to consistently to be at top, because its not just aim game there are lot of factors. in cs its difficult to clear an angle like if zywoo holds an angle when you clear it he just goes to next off angle(cs has lot of off angles), but in valorant you can just use util to clear without even seeing the player, which makes harder to kill someone. and there are other stuffs like complex map ,limited util and gun mechanics( like noscope awp)

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#30]

Did you know that CS and soccer dont have like really reality defining metas like val does
Like CS sure has weapon meta's but realistically they still ask you to aim...
Val meta's you had an agent who could literally nuke all the cover you had to flush people out

if you talk about meta, league is meta based and league has a goat

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#27]

Goat = greatest of All time...
All Time
TenZ peaked in 2021 and 2024, not 2021 to 2024

i mean there isnt many consistent players in VCT sooo

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ccccc_ [#33]

if you talk about meta, league is meta based and league has a goat

Eh true but Val is in that weird League CS space where you have both relatively universal weapon kills and also ability tools
Idk how to describe it but when you combine both its hard to have a goat at both

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