we will do vlr#1 in every year
2021: nats
2022: yay
2023: alfajer
2024: texture
2025: kaajak
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love kaajak and all but not winning a trophy isn’t a good look as the only outlier on this list
mondely [#3]love kaajak and all but not winning a trophy isn’t a good look as the only outlier on this list
i dont see any other possible contenders other than alfa and kaajak, or maybe even meteor
teilwal [#2]Demid1 clears alfajizzler
I mean you can do a solid case for Alfajer Leo and demon1 I wouldnt mind if any one of them is the best player of 2023
CaxTonYT [#4]i dont see any other possible contenders other than alfa and kaajak, or maybe even meteor
f0rsaken. you might hate him but he is def in contention for best player in 2025 if not the winner.
how did u get meteor for 2025 😭
mondely [#6]f0rsaken. you might hate him but he is def in contention for best player in 2025 if not the winner.
how did u get meteor for 2025 😭
Yeah he could be in the contention but personally idk
Kaajak was insane plus he was a rookie
that's so weird no statspas no bumnicle no cheathan i thought they were the goats :((
shesh_ [#8]that's so weird no statspas no bumnicle no cheathan i thought they were the goats :((
Watches
mondely [#6]f0rsaken. you might hate him but he is def in contention for best player in 2025 if not the winner.
how did u get meteor for 2025 😭
im sorry but forsaken wasn't even the best player on prx and never had pop-off perfomances. i might be a bit biased but he was always a middle of the pack player in tournaments.
CaxTonYT [#10]im sorry but forsaken wasn't even the best player on prx and never had pop-off perfomances. i might be a bit biased but he was always a middle of the pack player in tournaments.
we are talking 2025 here? unless smth happened to ur eyes, he was by far prx best player in 2025
mondely [#6]f0rsaken. you might hate him but he is def in contention for best player in 2025 if not the winner.
how did u get meteor for 2025 😭
Forsaken is not in contention
mondely [#11]we are talking 2025 here? unless smth happened to ur eyes, he was by far prx best player in 2025
He played like shit at champs and didn’t qualify to bangkok
mondely [#11]we are talking 2025 here? unless smth happened to ur eyes, he was by far prx best player in 2025
it wasnt that he was by far the best it was just the first time he wasnt mid on average, classic flukerx flair take
JonahPork [#13]He played like shit at champs and didn’t qualify to bangkok
who was prx best player at kickoff? f0rsaken
did kaajak qualify for bangkok? no
he played horrendous at champs? wait he just played to a normal standard
shesh_ [#8]that's so weird no statspas no bumnicle no cheathan i thought they were the goats :((
weird... maybe.... maybe they're not the goat😱
mondely [#15]who was prx best player at kickoff? f0rsaken
did kaajak qualify for bangkok? no
he played horrendous at champs? wait he just played to a normal standard
Normal to his standard lmao, far below kaajak’s standard. Also yeah basically the conversation is forsaken’s one good event vs Kaajak’s two good events. There isn’t any world where you can look at the two and say forsaken is better
mondely [#11]we are talking 2025 here? unless smth happened to ur eyes, he was by far prx best player in 2025
he was literally good for two games of toronto and was shit the rest of the year. and u have him in top player of 2025
teilwal [#14]it wasnt that he was by far the best it was just the first time he wasnt mid on average, classic flukerx flair take
he was by far the best in 2025 because he was the most consistent.
everyone played average or horribly in kickoff except f0rsaken.
f0rsaken was flexing while igling(say what u want about the team calling rn but back then, he was named as the clear caller) and led prx to toronto win
something heated up alot in stage2 but he wasn’t doing that great at start of the year.
f0rsaken declined by champs but it wasn’t like he was dropping stinkers. he just played above average
mondely [#20]he was by far the best in 2025 because he was the most consistent.
everyone played average or horribly in kickoff except f0rsaken.
f0rsaken was flexing while igling(say what u want about the team calling rn but back then, he was named as the clear caller) and led prx to toronto win
something heated up alot in stage2 but he wasn’t doing that great at start of the year.
f0rsaken declined by champs but it wasn’t like he was dropping stinkers. he just played above average
Wasnt Kaajak the most consistent tho?
shesh_ [#8]that's so weird no statspas no bumnicle no cheathan i thought they were the goats :((
Its almost like they were shit(relatively) every year of play
mondely [#20]he was by far the best in 2025 because he was the most consistent.
everyone played average or horribly in kickoff except f0rsaken.
f0rsaken was flexing while igling(say what u want about the team calling rn but back then, he was named as the clear caller) and led prx to toronto win
something heated up alot in stage2 but he wasn’t doing that great at start of the year.
f0rsaken declined by champs but it wasn’t like he was dropping stinkers. he just played above average
If we’re talking purely about consistent, it’s objectively kaajak. You can look at the stats, kaajak was more consistent than forsaken. Trent was also more consistent.
JonahPork [#17]Normal to his standard lmao, far below kaajak’s standard. Also yeah basically the conversation is forsaken’s one good event vs Kaajak’s two good events. There isn’t any world where you can look at the two and say forsaken is better
i think u have some misconception that kaajak performed insanely good at toronto or smth when he played at the level of f0rsaken at champs. it was alfajer in toronto.
kaajak was great, but f0rsaken was flexing,igling and he won a trophy. kaajak was just playing duelist and he didn’t win despite his great performances
Useless_Miks_Ult [#21]Wasnt Kaajak the most consistent tho?
im talking prx players here rn
Useless_Miks_Ult [#21]Wasnt Kaajak the most consistent tho?
lol yes, this dude is just saying random stuff and hoping we don’t fact check it
Useless_Miks_Ult [#21]Wasnt Kaajak the most consistent tho?
exactly
mondely [#24]i think u have some misconception that kaajak performed insanely good at toronto or smth when he played at the level of f0rsaken at champs. it was alfajer in toronto.
kaajak was great, but f0rsaken was flexing,igling and he won a trophy. kaajak was just playing duelist and he didn’t win despite his great performances
The only misconception is that you think forsaken was anymore than an average to below average player at champs
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#22]Its almost like they were shit(relatively) every year of play
ok they've never been shit this is a horrible take 😭
they've just never been the best itw for lengthy periods of time (i could see an argument for aspas for certain periods of time tho)
JonahPork [#26]lol yes, this dude is just saying random stuff and hoping we don’t fact check it
im not saying random stuff. you guys just have some hate against f0rsaken. he was good in 2025. why u acting like he was horrible for that year from the bias u have from other years
shesh_ [#29]ok they've never been shit this is a horrible take 😭
they've just never been the best itw for lengthy periods of time (i could see an argument for aspas for certain periods of time tho)
shit(relatively)
Relatively compared to the true peaks doesn't mean they're bad, they're overshadowed
JonahPork [#23]If we’re talking purely about consistent, it’s objectively kaajak. You can look at the stats, kaajak was more consistent than forsaken. Trent was also more consistent.
did u read the chain of events of the comments?
The guy said f0rsaken wasn’t prx best player which made no sense in 2025. I responded by saying he was and u confused it with me saying he was more consistent than kaajak.
did u not read???
My argument for f0rsaken > kaajak is that he flexed, igled, and won
mondely [#24]i think u have some misconception that kaajak performed insanely good at toronto or smth when he played at the level of f0rsaken at champs. it was alfajer in toronto.
kaajak was great, but f0rsaken was flexing,igling and he won a trophy. kaajak was just playing duelist and he didn’t win despite his great performances
flexing is good but he wasn't the best at anything, kaajak was the best at every agents he played
mondely [#30]im not saying random stuff. you guys just have some hate against f0rsaken. he was good in 2025. why u acting like he was horrible for that year from the bias u have from other years
We arent contesting whether he’s good, it’s just ridiculous to say that he’s the best player of 2025. You can be a good player and not be the best player in 2025
JonahPork [#34]We arent contesting whether he’s good, it’s just ridiculous to say that he’s the best player of 2025. You can be a good player and not be the best player in 2025
very rare jonahpork good take
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#31]shit(relatively)
Relatively compared to the true peaks doesn't mean they're bad, they're overshadowed
alright so when you use the word relatively you typically have to specify what exactly you're comparing them relative to
you still haven't done that
relative compared to their "true peaks?" then every player's average performance over a large enough sample size is shit if you're comparing them to their peaks
this makes no sense, so i can't believe this is what you mean
doesn't mean they're bad, they're overshadowed
...by their own peaks?
you don't compare a goat candidate's performance to what they could be performing like, you just look at how they have been performing
ur claim makes no sense there is no world where any of these players are "shit" relative to any metric except maybe how vlr treats them
mondely [#32]did u read the chain of events of the comments?
The guy said f0rsaken wasn’t prx best player which made no sense in 2025. I responded by saying he was and u confused it with me saying he was more consistent than kaajak.
did u not read???
My argument for f0rsaken > kaajak is that he flexed, igled, and won
flexed: was forsaken the best at any agents?
igled: bro forsaken shared that work with his teammates it def dont matter
JonahPork [#34]We arent contesting whether he’s good, it’s just ridiculous to say that he’s the best player of 2025. You can be a good player and not be the best player in 2025
how is it ridiculous??? at the very least, most people have him top2 in 2025
All u do is look at stats stats and refuse to acknowledge his contributions in flexing and igling. most importantly, he won. the truth is that winning affects if u are called the best player or not alot and it is the truth. prx also had good placements in 2025 so it wasn’t like they were a one hit wonder.
shesh_ [#36]alright so when you use the word relatively you typically have to specify what exactly you're comparing them relative to
you still haven't done that
relative compared to their "true peaks?" then every player's average performance over a large enough sample size is shit if you're comparing them to their peaks
this makes no sense, so i can't believe this is what you mean
doesn't mean they're bad, they're overshadowed
...by their own peaks?
you don't compare a goat candidate's performance to what they could be performing like, you just look at how they have been performing
ur claim makes no sense there is no world where any of these players are "shit" relative to any metric except maybe how vlr treats them
Nvm..
Let me clarify one more time
Compared to the considered "best of the year" Peaked players. They're shit relative to them
Never knew this got so offensive
JonahPork [#28]The only misconception is that you think forsaken was anymore than an average to below average player at champs
he was above average? why is that so hard to say?
in which way did he performed horribly?
shesh_ [#36]alright so when you use the word relatively you typically have to specify what exactly you're comparing them relative to
you still haven't done that
relative compared to their "true peaks?" then every player's average performance over a large enough sample size is shit if you're comparing them to their peaks
this makes no sense, so i can't believe this is what you mean
doesn't mean they're bad, they're overshadowed
...by their own peaks?
you don't compare a goat candidate's performance to what they could be performing like, you just look at how they have been performing
ur claim makes no sense there is no world where any of these players are "shit" relative to any metric except maybe how vlr treats them
bro why allat
aspas_number1hater [#33]flexing is good but he wasn't the best at anything, kaajak was the best at every agents he played
kaajak wasn’t the best at every agent he played. idk where u got this from.
also f0rsaken was literally the best omen in 2025, how can u shamelessly say he wasn’t the best at anything. crazy work
mondely [#38]how is it ridiculous??? at the very least, most people have him top2 in 2025
All u do is look at stats stats and refuse to acknowledge his contributions in flexing and igling. most importantly, he won. the truth is that winning affects if u are called the best player or not alot and it is the truth. prx also had good placements in 2025 so it wasn’t like they were a one hit wonder.
I really don’t gaf about which agents he chose to pick in agent select if he plays them at a level far below kaajak’s level. His igling was not game changing that year like boaster or valyn, he doesn’t deserve as much credit as you’re trying to give him
aspas_number1hater [#37]flexed: was forsaken the best at any agents?
igled: bro forsaken shared that work with his teammates it def dont matter
back in 2025, he called alot more than rn and was named the main caller.
he was the best at omen?
mondely [#44]back in 2025, he called alot more than rn and was named the main caller.
he was the best at omen?
main caller
on paper
omen
def not
mondely [#42]kaajak wasn’t the best at every agent he played. idk where u got this from.
also f0rsaken was literally the best omen in 2025, how can u shamelessly say he wasn’t the best at anything. crazy work
maybe not the best but he def played them better than forsaken. and forsaken was def not the best omen
JonahPork [#43]I really don’t gaf about which agents he chose to pick in agent select if he plays them at a level far below kaajak’s level. His igling was not game changing that year like boaster or valyn, he doesn’t deserve as much credit as you’re trying to give him
his igling wasn’t game changing but the fact that he fragged while igling and flexing. was kaajak midrounding or smth?
if all u care about is stats stats stats, then it is really just sad
aspas_number1hater [#45]main caller
on paper
omen
def not
who was better on omen in 2025? i’ll wait
CaxTonYT [#18]he was literally good for two games of toronto and was shit the rest of the year. and u have him in top player of 2025
just say u don’t watch the games or refuse to think. he was better than just 2 games at toronto
aspas_number1hater [#50]valyn?
Valyn was an amazing omen and igl but when it comes to purely omen, f0rsaken was better at setting up his teammates and had alot of creative smokes. The most famous example is how f0rsaken locks down A on sunset with a smoke that has a gap for him to exploit. He won a trophy because of this.
g2 and valyn also didn’t perform that well at champs which some people forget. they placed 7th-8th losing to prx(f0rsaken and leaf legendary ascent battle) and drx. so the talk of f0rsaken not being amazing at champs doesn’t really work here
mondely [#51]Valyn was an amazing omen and igl but when it comes to purely omen, f0rsaken was better at setting up his teammates and had alot of creative smokes. The most famous example is how f0rsaken locks down A on sunset with a smoke that has a gap for him to exploit. He won a trophy because of this.
g2 and valyn also didn’t perform that well at champs which some people forget. they placed 7th-8th losing to prx(f0rsaken and leaf legendary ascent battle) and drx. so the talk of f0rsaken not being amazing at champs doesn’t really work here
champs was literally his worst event of all 5 he played in
CaxTonYT [#52]champs was literally his worst event of all 5 he played in
is that suppose to be a good thing?
mondely [#6]f0rsaken. you might hate him but he is def in contention for best player in 2025 if not the winner.
how did u get meteor for 2025 😭
ahahahahaha
mondely [#53]is that suppose to be a good thing?
because u claim he wasn't terrible at champs but he literally had a 1.03 rating at champs. and don't do that "u only look at stats" bullshit with me. For any player to be the best of a year, they need to be a good fragger as well. just admit ur wrong about him being best in 2025. he literally wasn't
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