a GOAT list you can NOT disagree with

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Wolfed

Alfajer
Chronicle
aspas
Ethan
Boaster

HM: Less, Derke, nAts, ZmjjKK

this list should make everyone happy to some extent, right? and dont say flair, I personally think aspas is #1

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Riens where ?

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Wolfed

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riens will not be making any unbiased top 10s, sorry

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OceanB

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top 10 sova in vct? Top 10 initiator in vct?

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natalie

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top 1 fade, top 1 sova, top 1 initiator

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doesnt give him an argument in all time greatness list, you need more international success for that

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AzraelllSEN

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legit retarded LMAO top 10 without winning a VCT trophy??????

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thats theoretically possible imo, riens just doesnt have the consistent success

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xv108

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i disagree

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OceanB

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ethan is not over boaster man T-T

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i agree, but to please everyone, i had to - there are too many nrg flairs

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mDd

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Ethan aim clears

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Mrudddddd

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cheathan being in right place at the right time has put him in conversations he should not be a part of

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Wolfed

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1000%

but too many people think 2 champs trophies automatically make you part of the conversation

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JaeLucky

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doesn't it tho?

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no lmao

greatest of all time (consistency & longevity + success)

not "luckiest/flukiest of all time" (success but no consistency)

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Mrudddddd

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So doesn't
Immortal players shoot better , igl'ing wise he is not even top 3 in his region so idk what makes him the 'goat'

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Lakia is goat convo too i guess

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Wolfed

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yes Lakia the 2x Champs winner

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So if lakia wins champs 26 you would put him up there? Dont get caught up in technicalities when you (should be able to) very well understand the point.

If Kiles gets subbed in to PRX and wins champs is he the Goat?

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only won 1 masters btw

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wintery

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flair

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holy flair

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wintery

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what about my flair? are u js in awe at how amazing my flair is? tyy

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xv108

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i’m surprised bro i didn’t even know they were a team. i’ve never seen them at any events how come

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Linardinssssss

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New gen

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wintery

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so u dont watch apac and uve started watching val after 2024? flair makes sense then

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xv108

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changed flair a solid two days ago fyi

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wintery

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bandwagoner

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xv108

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i want to support a team that made london bc then the matches are actually exciting is that a problem

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delighted

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actual infant

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Linardinssssss

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Americass players in a goat list = bad list

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asunaluvr

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top 3 is correct and then it just falls off a cliff

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sentinelmain377

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ethan cant be here

Chron
Alfa
Boast
Derke
Aspas

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mDd

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flair + aspas is here

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aspas_number1hater

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the list is invalid if aspas is here

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SENfns

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i disagree

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9wntr

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how u gon be an fnc flair and underrate boaster

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Wolfed

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its not MY list, its VLR's list

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Congo1

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Chron
Alfa
Aspas
Derke
Boaster

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whats the argument for boaster < derke

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Derke was a top 3 player in the world in 2021-2022. People forget his pre franchise dominance

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Wheres kk? 8 times regional mvp 2 times podium, 1 champions

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being a regional merchant doesnt mean shit. G2 trent might as well be an HM otherwise.

KK has one champs trophy and no other international impact (other than cultural). he's the TenZ of China.

he deserves HM at MOST and thats why hes there

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pztzy

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Literally broke bo5 record against the best team in 2024 sybau retard

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Wolfed

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oh my... someone is angy...

youre actually an idiot if you dont see my point. i literally said he was successful once and not much at other points and your reply to that was that he was successful once. ???

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Botnatic only successfull once (lock in) and dont count masters tokyo cause all the team there were playing on one leg except botnatic lmao. And all botnatic havent done anyting since then

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TaniBoy7

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getting so angry for absolutely no reason. He is completely right, KK deserves HM at most, just look at the names in the top 10.

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mangomango

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Alfa needs atleast one more masters trophy bro

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Wolfed

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pfff get a load of this guy ^

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mangomango

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im not wrong

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yes you are, alfajer has consistently been one of the best itw, even internationally

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Zekken(adderall variant) where? 😕

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Wolfed

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one of the best to come out of NA, but doesnt have the international success to warrant a spot on the list. sorry

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Chron over alfa (personally for me, I can see why people go alfa.)

Ethan over Asspass

Aside from that yeah, solid list

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Ethan is that player who's just mid but somehow managed to win 2 trophies. Most forgettable decorated player in any esports

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TaniBoy7

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You put KK in HM and not sacy and tenz... say you hate sen without saying you hate sen ahh move

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macncheese

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boaster on a goat list while perma choking every important match and going -30 minimum in important bo5s balright

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PkBTH

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Boaster no. IGL can have different category.

They can get Top 10 if they plays like some demon too but if they don't then no they are not top 10 in general but surely top 10 in IGL rank.