neon is misunderstood

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just because the players have bad stats on her doesn't indicate the agent is without issue. by nature, her play style doesn't favor vlr rating. the players can be having a ton of impact while still dropping a sub 1 rating

also the stats don't really matter, I'd say the core issue is that the slide and shotguns make the game very unfun and are painful to watch after the novelty wore off. at its core game design is about making the game fun, if you have an agent that the majority of the playerbase despises playing against (even if it's only a tiny portion of people in ranked who can play her to her potential) then it's an issue with their design.

my point being that neon is good despite the stats and even if she was bad she needs to be rebalanced because her design doesn't fit into the game.

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neon wouldn't be a problem if all the agents meant to counter her weren't so dogshit

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Honestly true when we had sentinels even with PRIME neon with the 2 slides we didnt see neon's take over cuz the sentinels like cypher could shut them down well enough that it couldn't hurt
Then riot takes out those sentinels
Oh wow. Neon meta

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no I think she'd still be an issue design wise, just not in pro play. counters provide a way of interacting with her while she's sprinting (typically tripwires) but outside of that you have no way countering the run slide combo outside of an insane shot and even if you do that you're instantly getting traded.

this is assuming the neon has some utility help from their teammates of course. but even if they don't, on some maps like bind and split you can run it down on neon and shit on people with no effort

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neon is a good agent if u know how to use her so u cant act like its just play neon & win, neon fits some players playstyle and not others, you can see this with s0mething playing neon vs zekken alym or spike playing neon

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no shit every agent has good and bad players, what is your point? yoru was extremely broken and there were still players who were shit on him

my point wasn't even that neon is broken but if we're going there then based on how the meta is shaping up to be then she most definitely is. plenty of teams are running her and good players on her are consistently being the most impactful players in the lobby

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i think the best solution to this would just be to remove jumping while using sprint

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worst solution ive seen yet bro

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That’s legit the main reason why neon is so broken, you legitimately cannot hit a neon while she’s bunny hopping like an idiot across your screen, paired with the fact she can do this even when she’s used all her util

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but i mean you can hit a neon and you are seeing the goods of neon and not the bads, we literally saw alym jump out of a smoke and die 8 rounds and then gets a 2k with a judge 2 rounds and now u think neon is broken, you just need to think more when going against a neon idk how thats broken

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I only watched the last part of this game but if alym is running out of a smoke and dying 8 times and furia is still stomping that just proves she's broken

on what other character do you get this much impact even when you die?

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Lilbro didn't even watch the game and is making an opinion 😭😭😭😭

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yeah cause I'm not talking about this one game. are you retarded?

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OMG 😟😟😟. Uwukitten called me retarted 😭😭😭😭, I'm going to remember this in my whole life.

STFU stupid mf, you are the retarted one that wanted to do a claim by a fucking match that you didn't watch and you don't have any idea of how his Neon was getting value and you are crying and using that as an argument. Instead you could have made another argument in your Neon nerf propaganda but not that one. But well I can't expect a lot of the average vlr user and even less if it's called "uwukitten".

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if furia is still stomping i think that means furia is a good team and not that neon is a good agent LOL, he would literally die with 0 impact and furia would win the round, thats a team thing not an agent thing, also explains why other teams aren't utilizing neon like this

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no it proves that furia is a good team that can function even when their duelist dies on the entry
paper rex won fracture vs GENG even tho something had near zero impact, pretty much always instantly dying on the entry before any space was made
does that mean something was high impact even tho his neon was was completely useless all game just because he won the map?

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if you didn’t watch it’s probably hard to believe but nrg was outplayed in genuinely every aspect of the game

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my point is that you shouldn’t be able to be able to create so much space like this because there are 0 other duelists capable of doing this without needing to have prior value

neon can take any site she wants in the late game even if she has no util. paired with the fact that all of her counter suck balls, why would you ever choose another duelist?

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Or just remove the shooting while sliding and increase the equip time to match the slide time and increase slide time itself. And also make the equip time longer from run to stop
Essentially make the neon unable to fight beyond use of their abilities during the run like a yoru ult.
If you make it a 4v5 the run stops being broken

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true. Spikezin today dropped a 1.03 rating on Neon (worst at his team) while simultaneously being named MVP of the match by BR Transmission just for his sheer impact that stats can't translate

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duelist players in general tend to have less rating than others just because of the job they are required to do

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What? I thought it was pretty well agreed that he did really well today, his Chamber was fire today

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