The f0rsakeN rating Conversation

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Jaruto_8

He is the polar opposite of aspas. He dies every round but he'll win you the round by himself. This site has the most fraudulent rating system because it values not dying so hard. Even if you're not a glazer say with a straight face that Jingg and something have been better in this tournament...

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yeah the rating system favors playing passive and baiting. f0rsaken clearly is way better than his rating shows everyone who actually watches the games knows that

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eye test superiority

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it’s prx as a whole and it always has been, theyve made grand finals with noone on their team in the top 10

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even his rating in prx hes never the worst player until this tournament

https://www.vlr.gg/536883/debunking-f0rsaken-bad-stats-on-int-lan-myth

hes the worst rated rn in santiago but still got INSANE impact, also VLR is a KAST merchant, survival have a high ratio to determine the ratings unlike in thespike

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WHY IS ASPAS CATCHING STRAYS ALL OF SUDDEN

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Because he’s the goat of staying alive while watching his team try to retake

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Rent free

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Kist say he's a baiter lol

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Glazers will say he’s min maxing his awp chances (it’s round 12 btw)

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the st0tp0s allegations are heavy

#10

foythvlr

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Leave him alone NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Have you ever seen aspas play duelist like how it's meant to be played? Mf had artzin, a support player, entry for him on MIBR instead of doing it by himself. He just baits to get high K/Ds and ratings to make it look like he's the GOAT of the game when in reality even fucking tuyz would be a god if all he had to do was bait and get kills

Matter of fact, he can't even play Yoru, an agent BUILT for diving in second. He's essentially baiting on an ENTRY role 😭

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foythvlr

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Mf had artzin, a support player, entry for him on MIBR

Why do you think that

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ninjaturtle

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Because it happened? I watch the games and pay attention

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foythvlr

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ok

heres every TR round of MIBR x NRG champs 25 on corrode. tell me which one of them artzin did the entry while aspas was alive

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Yeah the rating system on VLR literally never considers putting your body on the line or being more aggressive to take space, and rewards baiters and passive af players, which is why f0rsakeN's ratings look small when in reality he's a massive threat in game

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It’s also why Dambi’s value is way higher than his rating indicates

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Uribaba

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Imagine what his rating would if vlr's rating system was as good as hltv's

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lets just assume that he is simply the worst player on his team in santiago
not bad, but worst

#15

Jaruto_8

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Dawg you've made like several posts about f0rsakeN and chronicle this past hour. Don't worry, surely chronicle will comeback and dominate with his new superteam right? I mean he's your goat right? surely :⁠)

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ngl he had a good performance on kickoff emea even with a complete on his team
also f0rsaken with a complete on his team managing to being stomped by chronicle

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Jaruto_8

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I have no idea what you just said mate

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that even f0rsaken cant exceed expectations with a complete player on your team

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Jaruto_8

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Still have no idea what that means lmao

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hes saying chronicle did really well considering vitality was playing with a sub because sayonara couldnt play

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the last time prx playing with a sub, they reached.top 3 at a masters event. sureely THE GOAT and the duelist of the greatest team of all time would be able to at least secure a spot and qualify in the 2nd worst-performing region at this masters right? right?

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deadass the sub convo is weird. fnatic made champs finals with a sub, prx made top 3 in tokyo with a sub. If you die hard cause you need a sub either the player is insanely pivotal (prx didn't have something) or the other four are ass.

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Bro poor aspas, he didnt even made it to santiago and people keep shitting him

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that's the weight of the 'goat' status people have put on him imo

#18

mondely

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f0rsaken plays in a way that stats will not favor him. He flexes and is the main caller/igl, so he alr has the hardest role on the team. He gets the least exit frags on the team and doesn't get to farm ecos like some of his teammates. He plays to give his team a chance to win by being aggressive and creative which makes him die alot. The agents he plays usually doesn't have a good ultimate or utility that allows him to get kills easily and is more to setup his team.

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AND THATS WHY HE IS THE GOAT

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https://www.vlr.gg/536883/debunking-f0rsaken-bad-stats-on-int-lan-myth

thread for stats merchant yall can go check it out

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look at mada engagements, aspas could only dream of doing his job as well as mada does. Fuck asspass propaganda in 2026

#29

foythvlr

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when faced directly aspas had more TRFK than Mada on champs 25 with mada having ten more TR rounds than aspas btw
https://www.vlr.gg/542269/mibr-vs-nrg-valorant-champions-2025-ubsf/?game=all&tab=overview

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I'd argue something HAS been better than forsaken this tourney, but I agree that the ratings are far from a good measure of impact. Completely ignores all the early info forsaken often gets from reclearing and making risky plays even if he eventually dies.

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rating system rewards saving and exit kills so it's a fraudulent stat sometimes also it punches low assist numbers that's why entry duelist gets fucked up ratings

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Gobline

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Agreed

#37

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Generational cope

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Just... no? f0rsaken is the worst player on PRX right now. The rating system does underate him, but not much. If the rating system was perfect it would give him a 1.00 rating right now imo.

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