If they gave up slowly to EDG then EDG would improve at least 10x. An amazing Yoru player, initiator, and IGL which fixes most of the problems that EDG has right now. But nah we gotta be greedy tyloo and lock him behind one of the biggest buyouts
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So tyloo shouldn’t aspire for their own success and live as a feeder org to EDG?
So tyloo shouldn’t aspire for their own success and live as a feeder org to EDG?
Prase [#2]So tyloo shouldn’t aspire for their own success and live as a feeder org to EDG?
Ofc tyloo should aspire for their own success but they've been a feeder org even now, locking one of China's best talents behind a paywall is crazy work, almost like Stew. Look at what happened with Invy on TS and prx now.
Kangkang should be the one to join tyloo instead. Tyloo have that FPS culture, and he will get help from splash and slowly, arguably better team
DBStudios [#4]Ofc tyloo should aspire for their own success but they've been a feeder org even now, locking one of China's best talents behind a paywall is crazy work, almost like Stew. Look at what happened with Invy on TS and prx now.
TS is hot ass bro they don’t even win 2 games in a stage. Tyloo is doing much better and atleast looking promising to let their star players go
Prase [#6]TS is hot ass bro they don’t even win 2 games in a stage. Tyloo is doing much better and atleast looking promising to let their star players go
bro said this shit is hot ass
Prase [#6]TS is hot ass bro they don’t even win 2 games in a stage. Tyloo is doing much better and atleast looking promising to let their star players go
Tyloo barely performed against some mid level teams this kickoff and got fried by EDG again, plus my point is that Invy left PRX and made PRX a much more dominate force than they were before, same thing can happen with slowly.
DBStudios [#9]Tyloo barely performed against some mid level teams this kickoff and got fried by EDG again, plus my point is that Invy left PRX and made PRX a much more dominate force than they were before, same thing can happen with slowly.
Tyloo choked 9-4 not fried, and they are a new team with better firepower. Edg only have kk and chichoo who can frag, the team is going downhill on trajectory, there's no saving them especially with autumn
Astar [#10]Tyloo choked 9-4 not fried, and they are a new team with better firepower. Edg only have kk and chichoo who can frag, the team is going downhill on trajectory, there's no saving them especially with autumn
There's a big difference between choking and just getting out played by the enemy team, we are forgetting that EDG had one of the best Havens in the world last year, which shows that they got fried on their defense side. Also your statement just further supports the fact that slowly could massively improve the team, plus it's not Autumn's fault this bum CB was basically running it down today against T1.
sw4gman [#11]and why wouldnt kk just learn yoru?
Why doesn't aspas just learn yoru type of question lol
DBStudios [#12]There's a big difference between choking and just getting out played by the enemy team, we are forgetting that EDG had one of the best Havens in the world last year, which shows that they got fried on their defense side. Also your statement just further supports the fact that slowly could massively improve the team, plus it's not Autumn's fault this bum CB was basically running it down today against T1.
Lol did we watch the same game on kickoff? Edg clutched on round 14 and rode on the momentum to snowball, that's it. There's no such thing as outplaying in china bud, it's all aim after mental down.
DBStudios [#13]Why doesn't aspas just learn yoru type of question lol
yeah why doesn't he?
DBStudios [#13]Why doesn't aspas just learn yoru type of question lol
he'd prolly be even better no?
Astar [#15]Lol did we watch the same game on kickoff? Edg clutched on round 14 and rode on the momentum to snowball, that's it. There's no such thing as outplaying in china bud, it's all aim after mental down.
EDG won round 14 with a pretty good execute and good team plays + some whiffs from Tyloo's side, round 15 EDG punished 2 over pushes from Tyloo which won them the round, round 16 kk gets a pick with the op then gets picked off again with the rest of the round being won by EDG just playing together, round 17 viper gets picked off after trying to camp a corner and the rest of tyloo gets cooked on the flank, round 18 EDG execute onto an open B site from tyloo and they have no response to it.
Every other round after was just EDG playing it better than Tyloo was, there's a point where we can admit that a team just played better than the other.
shaq_attaqr [#16]yeah why doesn't he?
Kk has already tried learning Yoru and has not performed well on him, it's not his type of playstyle playing Yoru instead of a dive duelist. Plus teams like NRG already proved that you don't need a yoru to be good but then again NRG is an outlier.
DBStudios [#4]Ofc tyloo should aspire for their own success but they've been a feeder org even now, locking one of China's best talents behind a paywall is crazy work, almost like Stew. Look at what happened with Invy on TS and prx now.
if you think Tyloo is a feeder team this year you're genuinely clueless about china
honestly EDGs fault for not paying slowly’s buyout when we know they can afford it with that champs money
DBStudios [#19]Kk has already tried learning Yoru and has not performed well on him, it's not his type of playstyle playing Yoru instead of a dive duelist. Plus teams like NRG already proved that you don't need a yoru to be good but then again NRG is an outlier.
skill issue. Drop kangkang
MrBlooBloom [#21]if you think Tyloo is a feeder team this year you're genuinely clueless about china
You might be the biggest glazer of tyloo let's hop off the glaze lmao, 3 negative posts b2b2b on my post already with basically no evidence behind it is crazy work. At least cover it up somewhat.
MrBlooBloom [#21]if you think Tyloo is a feeder team this year you're genuinely clueless about china
This guy seriously think the core of kangkang chichoo smoggy have more firepower than splash slowly erv who are new team
Cb is mid as hell duelist and nobody is as bad as sword9 igl
Astar [#25]This guy seriously think the core of kangkang chichoo smoggy have more firepower than splash slowly erv who are new team
Cb is mid as hell duelist and nobody is as bad as sword9 igl
First of all let's reply to my other response and not dodge it lmfao? Second of all I never said ANYTHING about the core of EDG having more firepower than the current core of Tyloo so let's stop putting words in my mouth in any message even if I do think it's true.
theres going to be literally no difference in international performance with slowly, stop trying to be a vlr china philosopher ur just fucking wrong
Slowly's yoru isnt that insane, he would improve them minimally
Slowly isnt a good igl
EDG just need a good coach, thats what 99% of china need
DBStudios [#26]First of all let's reply to my other response and not dodge it lmfao? Second of all I never said ANYTHING about the core of EDG having more firepower than the current core of Tyloo so let's stop putting words in my mouth in any message even if I do think it's true.
Bro you're treating tyloo as a feeder org as if they are not trying to improve the team 🤣 tyloo had more fps experience before even edg steppped into fps
Edg core is washed, and the new tyloo core is the future
Astar [#29]Bro you're treating tyloo as a feeder org as if they are not trying to improve the team 🤣 tyloo had more fps experience before even edg steppped into fps
Edg core is washed, and the new tyloo core is the future
Tyloo is still a feeder org it doesn’t matter if they are trying to improve or not they are currently still a feeder org lmfao. Also nice dodging everything I said lmao.
GambleNats [#28]Slowly's yoru isnt that insane, he would improve them minimally
Slowly isnt a good iglEDG just need a good coach, thats what 99% of china need
He at the very least is the best option in china currently for a yoru + IGL since cb is not it. Cheese balls out here overheats more than prime n4rrate
forklift2 [#27]theres going to be literally no difference in international performance with slowly, stop trying to be a vlr china philosopher ur just fucking wrong
Tell me you haven’t watched cb overheat 70% of the time without telling me you haven’t watched it happen
DBStudios [#31]He at the very least is the best option in china currently for a yoru + IGL since cb is not it. Cheese balls out here overheats more than prime n4rrate
better option than CB but he isnt fixing the team
DBStudios [#30]Tyloo is still a feeder org it doesn’t matter if they are trying to improve or not they are currently still a feeder org lmfao. Also nice dodging everything I said lmao.
Talking about dodging but you dodged when you think tyloo is a feeder org when it's clear they trying to improve and had fps history more than edg while edg kept signing ass player and coaches.
GambleNats [#33]better option than CB but he isnt fixing the team
You need to take steps in fixing a team, adding slowly instead of cb is already a major leap in progression for EDG.
Astar [#34]Talking about dodging but you dodged when you think tyloo is a feeder org when it's clear they trying to improve and had fps history more than edg while edg kept signing ass player and coaches.
How tf does tyloo having a history in fps have any correlation to what we are talking about here 😭 then from what you’re saying C9 should be the goats since they’ve been around for a very long time in the fps scene too.
DBStudios [#35]You need to take steps in fixing a team, adding slowly instead of cb is already a major leap in progression for EDG.
no its not, CB isnt a terrible player, he overpeaks but mechanically he is fine, his utility is fine (not on yoru but China doesnt have a single good yoru player utility wise), his calls in game from vods ive watched are fine.
Slowly is lile 1.2x the player Cb is.
just focus on the macro and the coach
DBStudios [#19]Kk has already tried learning Yoru and has not performed well on him, it's not his type of playstyle playing Yoru instead of a dive duelist. Plus teams like NRG already proved that you don't need a yoru to be good but then again NRG is an outlier.
you think edg can play like nrg?
shaq_attaqr [#38]you think edg can play like nrg?
Well I mean I never said that Edg can play like Nrg it’s js an example. Plus in the situation with MIBR they got much better in the yoru department when they just put zekken on him instead of aspas
GambleNats [#37]no its not, CB isnt a terrible player, he overpeaks but mechanically he is fine, his utility is fine (not on yoru but China doesnt have a single good yoru player utility wise), his calls in game from vods ive watched are fine.
Slowly is lile 1.2x the player Cb is.
just focus on the macro and the coach
I mean slowly is quite literally the second best yoru in china behind Rarga for the amount of rounds that he has played. Sure the coaching staff could improve but we’ve seen that it doesn’t matter the coaching if your duelist is overheating like with n4rrate
DBStudios [#4]Ofc tyloo should aspire for their own success but they've been a feeder org even now, locking one of China's best talents behind a paywall is crazy work, almost like Stew. Look at what happened with Invy on TS and prx now.
6th means bottom feeder?
DBStudios [#24]You might be the biggest glazer of tyloo let's hop off the glaze lmao, 3 negative posts b2b2b on my post already with basically no evidence behind it is crazy work. At least cover it up somewhat.
There's no evidence to give to a guy who thinks tyloo is a bottom feeder in china in the big of 2026. You're objectively wrong, end of the debate.
DBStudios [#40]I mean slowly is quite literally the second best yoru in china behind Rarga for the amount of rounds that he has played. Sure the coaching staff could improve but we’ve seen that it doesn’t matter the coaching if your duelist is overheating like with n4rrate
slowly is a good fragger on yoru, his utility is just as bad as rarga or f4ngeer
DBStudios [#36]How tf does tyloo having a history in fps have any correlation to what we are talking about here 😭 then from what you’re saying C9 should be the goats since they’ve been around for a very long time in the fps scene too.
C9 isn't feeder either. You should be comparing those with orgs like secret and nova who are clearly have no ambition to win and sign cheap players to stay on the league, tho I can argue with EG too despite it used to be ambitious org but now have track record of not paying players
Some orgs like c9 and tyloo have ambitions but failed only cus it's their own bad decisions. History means they have established fans, whatever the result is the fans always be there, and it drives the org to keep improving.
Venery [#41]6th means bottom feeder?
Where TF did I say bottom feeder??????
GambleNats [#43]slowly is a good fragger on yoru, his utility is just as bad as rarga or f4ngeer
I mean I would rather take a yoru who’s good at fragging on him with alright util than a yoru who can’t frag, overheats, and doesn’t even have good util
MrBlooBloom [#42]There's no evidence to give to a guy who thinks tyloo is a bottom feeder in china in the big of 2026. You're objectively wrong, end of the debate.
Where exactly did I say bottom feeder again?? You tyloo fans js love putting words in my mouth lmfao
DBStudios [#46]I mean I would rather take a yoru who’s good at fragging on him with alright util than a yoru who can’t frag, overheats, and doesn’t even have good util
i mean i would rather slowly but his cost doesnt justify the value he brings over CB
Astar [#44]C9 isn't feeder either. You should be comparing those with orgs like secret and nova who are clearly have no ambition to win and sign cheap players to stay on the league, tho I can argue with EG too despite it used to be ambitious org but now have track record of not paying players
Some orgs like c9 and tyloo have ambitions but failed only cus it's their own bad decisions. History means they have established fans, whatever the result is the fans always be there, and it drives the org to keep improving.
Saying nova has no ambition to win when they have also tried pretty hard to improve is just straight up bias for Tyloo lmfao. And you still haven’t responded to my other reply and you still haven’t explained why haven’t a history in fps has any correlation to this convo
GambleNats [#48]i mean i would rather slowly but his cost doesnt justify the value he brings over CB
Don’t get me wrong I don’t think EDG should pay for his outrageous buy out that’s literally the point I’m talking about
DBStudios [#49]Saying nova has no ambition to win when they have also tried pretty hard to improve is just straight up bias for Tyloo lmfao. And you still haven’t responded to my other reply and you still haven’t explained why haven’t a history in fps has any correlation to this convo
I literally just said it. Established fps fans, learn to read. TYLOO HAS THAT LEGACY, nova is new to fps PC ofc they don't have the pull like orgs like tyloo
Astar [#51]I literally just said it. Established fps fans, learn to read. TYLOO HAS THAT LEGACY, nova is new to fps PC ofc they don't have the pull like orgs like tyloo
Btw Tyloo had barely any valorant fans outside of maybe this year so that makes no fucking sense also even then that doesn’t even align with ANYTHING talked about here or even your old point
I mean you can say this about a lot of Chinese teams, like if wolves gave DRG Spring/suitfatbb or XLG gave DRG Happywei and DRG got an actual coach then DRG would be the best team in china
Astar [#15]Lol did we watch the same game on kickoff? Edg clutched on round 14 and rode on the momentum to snowball, that's it. There's no such thing as outplaying in china bud, it's all aim after mental down.
how does one get proven wrong so badly they js never respond to the message 🤣🤣
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