Indonesian Organizer just announced that Indonesia would get 3 Direct Slot into APAC Challengers Playoff
I'll assume Thailand, Philippines, and Vietnam get the same number. (Based on last SEA Challengers allocation)
So, based on that number, APAC Challengers would be joined by 20-24 teams.
Source: https://valorant.oneup.co.id/
D3ltAgg [#5]So how many teams will go to Masters from APAC playoffs ? can someone tell me
If there will be 24 teams id say they should give us 4 slots or 3 maybe
cuz APAC will consist of OCE,SA and SEA
SEA had 2 slots earlier so 3or 4 makes sense
sa has 2 slots
Araragi [#3]24 teams playoff will be so boring.
theres gonna be groups into double elim bracket most likely, like SEA playoffs
Araragi [#3]24 teams playoff will be so boring.
necessary evil, according to me. the region is so Hugh that anything less would be unjust
D3ltAgg [#8]No I am talking about the Masters slot from APAC challemgers
my fault, yeah it should be 3 or 4
DaalLiya [#11]literally 3 indo teams in playoffs and sa gets 2 slots with 7 countries shitshow from riot again and india give much more live viewers and players to riot than all sea combine
Shut up we got our chance lets first prove and go to masters or champions this year (2022) then we can ask for sa challengers or more slots in 2023 apac
DaalLiya [#11]literally 3 indo teams in playoffs and sa gets 2 slots with 7 countries shitshow from riot again and india give much more live viewers and players to riot than all sea combine
braindamage
DaalLiya [#11]literally 3 indo teams in playoffs and sa gets 2 slots with 7 countries shitshow from riot again and india give much more live viewers and players to riot than all sea combine
stop cryin over it man, be grateful SA is gettin 2 slots and a direct participation with all SEA and OCE teams
P.S. Vietnam , HK/TW, OCE also gets 2 slots.
Olofboost [#15]Vietnam don't deserve to get more slots than Malaysia/Singapore
If they give Vietnam 3 and MY/SG 2 again, they will be the biggest clowns
Stage 1 - SMG 2nd place, VN nowhere
Stage 2 - PRX 3rd place, VN 9th-10th
Stage 3 - PRX 2nd place, VN 5th-8th
VN is getting 2 slots , chill out
Fate01 [#16]VN is getting 2 slots , chill out
Source?
So no source nice
You think Riot will be smart and give slots based on last year's success
If that was the case, Brazil would have 1 (not 2) and EMEA would have 7-8 (not 4) this year
Riot are always doing whatever they want even if it's not fair from competitive perspective
Olofboost [#17]Source?
So no source nice
You think Riot will be smart and give slots based on last year's successIf that was the case, Brazil would have 1 (not 2) and EMEA would have 7-8 (not 4) this year
Riot are always doing whatever they want even if it's not fair from competitive perspective
trust him bro
Fate01 [#14]stop cryin over it man, be grateful SA is gettin 2 slots and a direct participation with all SEA and OCE teams
P.S. Vietnam , HK/TW, OCE also gets 2 slots.
vietnam,hk 2 slots xd shittest region in sea and sa with 7 countries with way more player and viewer also get 2 slots make no sense from riot
Fate01 [#16]VN is getting 2 slots , chill out
yea whats ur source, would be fair tho honestly, vn imo is the second worst subregion in SEA
DaalLiya [#19]vietnam,hk 2 slots xd shittest region in sea and sa with 7 countries with way more player and viewer also get 2 slots make no sense from riot
its not always about viewers or more players. If it was actually that way then SEA and SA would get all the slots in Masters and Champions
DaalLiya [#19]vietnam,hk 2 slots xd shittest region in sea and sa with 7 countries with way more player and viewer also get 2 slots make no sense from riot
you gotta stop saying SA as 7 countries when there are literally just 2 countries of significance ( IN and PK) and a total of 4 competitive teams in whole of SA that can somewhat take on against these SEA teams you just memed at. Stick to reality and face the facts.
Fate01 [#22]you gotta stop saying SA as 7 countries when there are literally just 2 countries of significance ( IN and PK) and a total of 4 competitive teams in whole of SA that can somewhat take on against these SEA teams you just memed at. Stick to reality and face the facts.
There are easly more than 6 good teams in south asia
Noob_dart [#12]Shut up we got our chance lets first prove and go to masters or champions this year (2022) then we can ask for sa challengers or more slots in 2023 apac
yes by qualifying against 20 teams on high ping and winning against teams from indo and sg playing on 10 to 12 ping its quite easy path for SA teams to masters according to you and riot south asia
DaalLiya [#23]There are easly more than 6 good teams in south asia
your best team got destroyed by an unfamous PH team in your own SERVER. shut up
DaalLiya [#24]yes by qualifying against 20 teams on high ping and winning against teams from indo and sg playing on 10 to 12 ping its quite easy path for SA teams to masters according to you and riot south asia
Trust me we all want to compete against eu, na but riot wont give us our own challengers or more slots until we show hell lot of performance, i think that if both slots of vcc were won by indian teams they will move to chennai and will get around 30-40 ping which is great
Fate01 [#14]stop cryin over it man, be grateful SA is gettin 2 slots and a direct participation with all SEA and OCE teams
P.S. Vietnam , HK/TW, OCE also gets 2 slots.
its nothing sort of grateful done by riot it would be better if they wouldn't give slots player would have moved back to cs where valve cared more valve gave direct slot to indian team into major in 2013 and we had slot for esl pro league in sea circuit when people india didn't even had idea about esports if cs was as popular in as valorant india valve would have easily given slot atleast into minors .
DaalLiya [#24]yes by qualifying against 20 teams on high ping and winning against teams from indo and sg playing on 10 to 12 ping its quite easy path for SA teams to masters according to you and riot south asia
wasn't GE vs PRX pretty fair ping where GE got 30ish ping and they got...... nvm
fracra [#30]wasn't GE vs PRX pretty fair ping where GE got 30ish ping and they got...... nvm
It was fair nobody said ping diff though
Noob_dart [#27]Trust me we all want to compete against eu, na but riot wont give us our own challengers or more slots until we show hell lot of performance, i think that if both slots of vcc were won by indian teams they will move to chennai and will get around 30-40 ping which is great
game will be dead till riot sees performance in us tbh . i think max to max 2 years before valo esports scene dies like cs in india
fracra [#30]wasn't GE vs PRX pretty fair ping where GE got 30ish ping and they got...... nvm
yes with looses as chennai was having storm that day and india internet is shit
Noob_dart [#31]It was fair nobody said ping diff though
idk man the guy was complaining that matches vs sg and id was unfair but clearly not.
KssS [#25]IMO SA should have AT LEAST 1 direct slot to masters. SEA is already crowded enough cause OCE is in the mix
If they get decent results, Riot might give them a direct slot on 2023
DaalLiya [#11]literally 3 indo teams in playoffs and sa gets 2 slots with 7 countries shitshow from riot again and india give much more live viewers and players to riot than all sea combine
We are getting a chance to be a part of this is more than enough imo
Fr1tZ [#26]your best team got destroyed by an unfamous PH team in your own SERVER. shut up
all matches against ph teams were played in sg server and indo team with player like adrn king lost a map to tier 2 indian team fs on mumbai server
Araragi [#3]24 teams playoff will be so boring.
it will be the opposite. wdym? I'm sure there will be group stage then.
DaalLiya [#32]game will be dead till riot sees performance in us tbh . i think max to max 2 years before valo esports scene dies like cs in india
You really think we cant win against sea? Just trust our pros they will surely become stronger once they got proper coaches, we came a long way without having proper coaches and all now its time to win the apac, i trust in my region plus we have views and TOs like tec and skyesports becuase of our views no way val be dead in our region especially after we get slots in apac playoffs have patience
omen22 [#36]We are getting a chance to be a part of this is more than enough imo
its better to not get chances than riot pretending to give chances to sa when region like Vietnam and hk/taiwan get same number of slots as you
Noob_dart [#39]You really think we cant win against sea? Just trust our pros they will surely become stronger once they got proper coaches, we came a long way without having proper coaches and all now its time to win the apac, i trust in my region plus we have views and TOs like tec and skyesports becuase of our views no way val be dead in our region especially after we get slots in apac playoffs have patience
i have seen these players since cs days indian never perform online and sg and indo teams take full advantage of low ping since cs days
makoidk [#10]my fault, yeah it should be 3 or 4
There is no way its 4 btw. Probably 3, maybe even only 2
the prophet thinks this might be the format
https://twitter.com/m1mosa_prophet/status/1476119239094243328?s=20
DaalLiya [#41]its better to not get chances than riot pretending to give chances to sa when region like Vietnam and hk/taiwan get same number of slots as you
Its true riot are a-holes but we cannot do anything its their game they make these rules
Olofboost [#15]Vietnam don't deserve to get more slots than Malaysia/Singapore
If they give Vietnam 3 and MY/SG 2 again, they will be the biggest clowns
Stage 1 - SMG 2nd place, VN nowhere
Stage 2 - PRX 3rd place, VN 9th-10th
Stage 3 - PRX 2nd place, VN 5th-8th
true, I will cry if vn get more than my/sg
DaalLiya [#37]all matches against ph teams were played in sg server and indo team with player like adrn king lost a map to tier 2 indian team fs on mumbai server
Just lost a map, AE win that match. YOUR BEST TEAM LOST TO AE IN TEC SHOWDOWN!
Olofboost [#17]Source?
So no source nice
You think Riot will be smart and give slots based on last year's successIf that was the case, Brazil would have 1 (not 2) and EMEA would have 7-8 (not 4) this year
Riot are always doing whatever they want even if it's not fair from competitive perspective
https://m.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=3100577356845691&%3Bset=gm.1079523786159299
Here it shows 2 slot to APAC from VN
nyomski [#51]https://m.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=3100577356845691&%3Bset=gm.1079523786159299
Here it shows 2 slot to APAC from VN
niceeeee, olofboost will sleep in peace tonight.
DaalLiya [#19]vietnam,hk 2 slots xd shittest region in sea and sa with 7 countries with way more player and viewer also get 2 slots make no sense from riot
maybe when our best teams stop losing vs tier 3 no name teams we can get more slots lmao
We should be happy we are getting even 2 with the kind of performance we have had even on our own servers or vs PH teams on similar ping on SG lmao
nyomski [#51]https://m.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=3100577356845691&%3Bset=gm.1079523786159299
Here it shows 2 slot to APAC from VN
2 slots to VCT VN Challengers not APAC
DaalLiya [#33]yes with looses as chennai was having storm that day and india internet is shit
stop giving excuses man.
KssS [#25]IMO SA should have AT LEAST 1 direct slot to masters. SEA is already crowded enough cause OCE is in the mix
yea i actually agree, apac now so much they gather SEA, SA, OCE gonna be chaos
Sprlonely [#54]2 slots to VCT VN Challengers not APAC
that does not make sense, why would they be only for 2 team from VN that qualified for their own VN challengers?
prophet_m1mosa [#44]the prophet thinks this might be the format
https://twitter.com/m1mosa_prophet/status/1476119239094243328?s=20
why tf they keep giving vn so much slot
Tamag0 [#35]If they get decent results, Riot might give them a direct slot on 2023
EU and CIS got decent resulsts. They still stuck together in EMEA.
Birssa [#59]EU and CIS got decent resulsts. They still stuck together in EMEA.
yeah but EMEA only has 400-500M people while the whole of APAC has 2 billion. its already hard for teams to get signed here let alone have an opportunity to compete
bambamskrrt [#57]that does not make sense, why would they be only for 2 team from VN that qualified for their own VN challengers?
Invited teams
Infernando10 [#13]braindamage
bruh SA val is gonna die like cs if this "yOu HaVwe tO ProVE YoUrSelf" shitshow continues. if you really need to prove then why is japan is having a direct slot huh?
Katharize [#62]bruh SA val is gonna die like cs if this "yOu HaVwe tO ProVE YoUrSelf" shitshow continues. if you really need to prove then why is japan is having a direct slot huh?
they just gave slot to japan just because of views but its also a fact that in upcoming years viewership in Indian esports would be fucking massive much more than japan's viewership so I personally think riot will invest little by little in sa every year and when we have great amount of viewership, we would get our own challengers, before that we have to do this so-called shitshow of "prove yourself first" to get it
Katharize [#62]bruh SA val is gonna die like cs if this "yOu HaVwe tO ProVE YoUrSelf" shitshow continues. if you really need to prove then why is japan is having a direct slot huh?
CR/ZETA > whole of SA
hotpotatoman [#64]CR/ZETA > whole of SA
Ya say this without letting sa teams fight them, every region playstyle is counter to some other region so you cant say
Noob_dart [#65]Ya say this without letting sa teams fight them, every region playstyle is counter to some other region so you cant say
CR has at least won a game in international play and nearly beat gmb on icebox. Wtf has SA done? Lose to t3 sea teams lmaoo
DaalLiya [#33]yes with looses as chennai was having storm that day and india internet is shit
G@@nd tod dunga bakwaas band kr
prophet_m1mosa [#44]the prophet thinks this might be the format
https://twitter.com/m1mosa_prophet/status/1476119239094243328?s=20
damn thailand and ph should get more slot, 4 at least
jimjam789 [#66]CR has at least won a game in international play and nearly beat gmb on icebox. Wtf has SA done? Lose to t3 sea teams lmaoo
yea but after getting spoon-feed by riot in 3 fucking lans ?
jimjam789 [#66]CR has at least won a game in international play and nearly beat gmb on icebox. Wtf has SA done? Lose to t3 sea teams lmaoo
and when did SA has gotten to play a lan?
trola [#68]damn thailand and ph should get more slot, 4 at least
nah ph with 3 is just fine. right now its a 3 way tie between Team Secret, South Built Esports, and Bren Esports.
DaalLiya [#19]vietnam,hk 2 slots xd shittest region in sea and sa with 7 countries with way more player and viewer also get 2 slots make no sense from riot
Tujhe Jo maine garam sariya diya usse tune apne g@@nd me Daal liya?
Katharize [#71]and when did SA has gotten to play a lan?
are you dumb? they can play on lan once they beat a t3 sea amateur team.
DaalLiya [#29]its nothing sort of grateful done by riot it would be better if they wouldn't give slots player would have moved back to cs where valve cared more valve gave direct slot to indian team into major in 2013 and we had slot for esl pro league in sea circuit when people india didn't even had idea about esports if cs was as popular in as valorant india valve would have easily given slot atleast into minors .
Vlr.gg jldi leave krde isse pehle ki tere messages me gandi gaaliyan bhari ho🙂
KssS [#72]nah ph with 3 is just fine. right now its a 3 way tie between Team Secret, South Built Esports, and Bren Esports.
i mean, rather than giving slot to country that did not perform good in the past tourney, its better to give ph and thai more slot
Olofboost [#17]Source?
So no source nice
You think Riot will be smart and give slots based on last year's successIf that was the case, Brazil would have 1 (not 2) and EMEA would have 7-8 (not 4) this year
Riot are always doing whatever they want even if it's not fair from competitive perspective
And NA would have zero😂
DaalLiya [#42]i have seen these players since cs days indian never perform online and sg and indo teams take full advantage of low ping since cs days
lol so underestimate indo ? you guys got rekt by alter ego hahaha
Katharize [#80]who?
No bro, Im just saying japan does not need to "yOu HaVwe tO ProVE YoUrSelf" to play a lan and SA need to "yOu HaVwe tO ProVE YoUrSelf" to play a lan. w0w so racist
Katharize [#80]who?
https://www.vlr.gg/event/784/the-esports-club-challenger-series-6/playoffs. out of 14 matches, there were only 2 matches where SA beat SEA and this tournament includes GE whereas sea has t3 teams lol. like i said, if u cant even beat t3 teams how can u expect SA to get a slot when JP at least has won an international game.
hotpotatoman [#64]CR/ZETA > whole of SA
bro they improved because they got vip treatment from riot and played masters 1 2 and champs they got expose to international teams
while SA just played vcc still defected damwon gaming, nearly defected F4Q, got rolled by prx(best sea at the time)
jimjam789 [#83]https://www.vlr.gg/event/784/the-esports-club-challenger-series-6/playoffs. out of 14 matches, there were only 2 matches where SA beat SEA and this tournament includes GE whereas sea has t3 teams lol. like i said, if u cant even beat t3 teams how can u expect SA to get a slot when JP at least has won an international game.
when did I said SA>SEA? u delusional
jimjam789 [#83]https://www.vlr.gg/event/784/the-esports-club-challenger-series-6/playoffs. out of 14 matches, there were only 2 matches where SA beat SEA and this tournament includes GE whereas sea has t3 teams lol. like i said, if u cant even beat t3 teams how can u expect SA to get a slot when JP at least has won an international game.
Yea 1 match out of 3 lans..... VERY IMPRESSIVE
jimjam789 [#83]https://www.vlr.gg/event/784/the-esports-club-challenger-series-6/playoffs. out of 14 matches, there were only 2 matches where SA beat SEA and this tournament includes GE whereas sea has t3 teams lol. like i said, if u cant even beat t3 teams how can u expect SA to get a slot when JP at least has won an international game.
and when did JP did something impressive on their first international debut
Katharize [#86]Yea 1 match out of 3 lans..... VERY IMPRESSIVE
are you dumb? SAs best cannot beat SEAs worst. Tier 3 means worst pro teams. At least JP has won a match in an international lan with the BEST teams in the world. You guys cant even win against the WORST teams in the world HAHAHAHHA. stay mad lmao ur regions most iconic player is forsaken lmaoooo
Katharize [#86]Yea 1 match out of 3 lans..... VERY IMPRESSIVE
lemme rephrase. You guys cant even win against one of the more bad teams in the world because the title of 'worst teams' goes to SA
jimjam789 [#83]https://www.vlr.gg/event/784/the-esports-club-challenger-series-6/playoffs. out of 14 matches, there were only 2 matches where SA beat SEA and this tournament includes GE whereas sea has t3 teams lol. like i said, if u cant even beat t3 teams how can u expect SA to get a slot when JP at least has won an international game.
and I never said SA is better then anyone we at bottom and so was JP on early days of val and they got a lan slot because of viership and to help the region to grow, so why cant SA get slot
ufc [#89]What are the other good Indonesian teams besides papersex?
Paper Rex isn't even Indonesian. They have two Indonesian players, but they're still a Malaysian/Singaporean team. Good Indonesian teams include BOOM, Alter Ego, and ONIC as the current stars, with maybe Bigetron Astro, XcN, and Morph Impact as the mid-tier 1 teams. Then you have the rest of the Tier 2 teams.
jimjam789 [#90]lemme rephrase. You guys cant even win against one of the more bad teams in the world because the title of 'worst teams' goes to SA
dumb 14yo wow
KssS [#60]yeah but EMEA only has 400-500M people while the whole of APAC has 2 billion. its already hard for teams to get signed here let alone have an opportunity to compete
Thats a bad comparison tbh, u have to compare it to the playerbase not the population
Katharize [#91]and I never said SA is better then anyone we at bottom and so was JP on early days of val and they got a lan slot because of viership and to help the region to grow, so why cant SA get slot
if JP was at the bottom, then imagine how low SA was compared to JP and yet u still think they deserve a spot? And first of all JP has always had high viewership. In fact theyve always had highest view count in asia entirely.
Birssa [#59]EU and CIS got decent resulsts. They still stuck together in EMEA.
Because CIS has no viewers and orgs wont invest into the CIS region if the only way of getting exposure is getting to masters, which is almost impossible against gambit atm
DaalLiya [#29]its nothing sort of grateful done by riot it would be better if they wouldn't give slots player would have moved back to cs where valve cared more valve gave direct slot to indian team into major in 2013 and we had slot for esl pro league in sea circuit when people india didn't even had idea about esports if cs was as popular in as valorant india valve would have easily given slot atleast into minors .
Just stfu please, ok?
Noob_dart [#63]they just gave slot to japan just because of views but its also a fact that in upcoming years viewership in Indian esports would be fucking massive much more than japan's viewership so I personally think riot will invest little by little in sa every year and when we have great amount of viewership, we would get our own challengers, before that we have to do this so-called shitshow of "prove yourself first" to get it
SA wont have to prove themselves. As soon riot increases the slots for masters and champions overall SA will get a direct slot. From then on they will have to prove if they are worth having multiple slots
PrTsty [#94]Thats a bad comparison tbh, u have to compare it to the playerbase not the population
the more the population the more the player base and viewers. how is that a bad comparison??
Noob_dart [#65]Ya say this without letting sa teams fight them, every region playstyle is counter to some other region so you cant say
not like a pro analyst or anything but i feel like SA's playstyle is just a weaker version of SEA
Araragi [#3]24 teams playoff will be so boring.
Then ignore it until its only 16 teams left, or 8 whatever u like
KssS [#100]the more the population the more the player base and viewers. how is that a bad comparison??
Population only increases POTENTIAL playerbase. For example, asia has like 6 billion people (I think) and a playerbase in val from around 3-4 million (I dont know exactly) while europe has 2-3 million players.
Its much closer than the 500mil vs 2 billion that u stated
EMEA has a bigger playerbase then SEA and SA together
KssS [#60]yeah but EMEA only has 400-500M people while the whole of APAC has 2 billion. its already hard for teams to get signed here let alone have an opportunity to compete
EMEA has bigger playerbase than APAC
jimjam789 [#83]https://www.vlr.gg/event/784/the-esports-club-challenger-series-6/playoffs. out of 14 matches, there were only 2 matches where SA beat SEA and this tournament includes GE whereas sea has t3 teams lol. like i said, if u cant even beat t3 teams how can u expect SA to get a slot when JP at least has won an international game.
oh ok i'll reply to this first
First International for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/19072/version1-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-reykjavik-main-event-ur1
conclusion they get 2'0ed
Second match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/19081/x10-esports-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-reykjavik-main-event-lr1
conclusion they get 2'0ed
3rd match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/34951/gambit-esports-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-opening-c
conclusion they get 2'0ed
4th match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/34965/crazy-raccoon-vs-havan-liberty-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-elimination-c
conclusion they won 2'0
5th match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/34966/gambit-esports-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-decider-c
conclusion they get 2'0ed
6th match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/51278/team-vikings-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-opening-c
conclusion they get 2'0ed
7th match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/51280/team-secret-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-elim-c
conclusion they get 2'0ed
total maps won 2 out of 14.
they only played masters and champs as international events and never played some 3rd party international events so how can you prove that they are better than any of these T3 teams?
even in masters they only won Liberty.
what did they do so impressive to deserve a masters slot lol
jimjam789 [#95]if JP was at the bottom, then imagine how low SA was compared to JP and yet u still think they deserve a spot? And first of all JP has always had high viewership. In fact theyve always had highest view count in asia entirely.
prove it
DaalLiya [#19]vietnam,hk 2 slots xd shittest region in sea and sa with 7 countries with way more player and viewer also get 2 slots make no sense from riot
SA never even play against vietnam/hk teams, just be humble and grateful you guys get 2 chance at APAC playoffs
Noob_dart [#63]they just gave slot to japan just because of views but its also a fact that in upcoming years viewership in Indian esports would be fucking massive much more than japan's viewership so I personally think riot will invest little by little in sa every year and when we have great amount of viewership, we would get our own challengers, before that we have to do this so-called shitshow of "prove yourself first" to get it
what about Korea, which didn't even reach 10k viewers when it was master champion
jimjam789 [#88]are you dumb? SAs best cannot beat SEAs worst. Tier 3 means worst pro teams. At least JP has won a match in an international lan with the BEST teams in the world. You guys cant even win against the WORST teams in the world HAHAHAHHA. stay mad lmao ur regions most iconic player is forsaken lmaoooo
Ofc Japan has won ONE match in 3 LANS whereas no SA team even got the chance to go to one LAN. I’m not sure if Japan would qualify through APAC, i doubt it with Crazy Raccon tbh. Stop defending this anime region all the time, they bad af in valorant
StockfishZ [#108]SA never even play against vietnam/hk teams, just be humble and grateful you guys get 2 chance at APAC playoffs
yes tell them to qualify for tournaments where SA teams play
prophet_m1mosa [#44]the prophet thinks this might be the format
https://twitter.com/m1mosa_prophet/status/1476119239094243328?s=20
The prophet has spoken 🙏
jimjam789 [#66]CR has at least won a game in international play and nearly beat gmb on icebox. Wtf has SA done? Lose to t3 sea teams lmaoo
Almost defeated the masters team F4Q
jimjam789 [#66]CR has at least won a game in international play and nearly beat gmb on icebox. Wtf has SA done? Lose to t3 sea teams lmaoo
it is better if you don't talk Austrailia....... please just for your own sake.
Parichay [#116]it is better if you don't talk Austrailia....... please just for your own sake.
why would i not talk? if u actually knew anything about fps u would know that OCE team renegades and later 100T competed at the very top of tier 1 CSGO. whats indias most iconic moment? forsaken LMAO
nyomski [#51]https://m.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=3100577356845691&%3Bset=gm.1079523786159299
Here it shows 2 slot to APAC from VN
it was a small tournament by vng corp and top 2 qualify to vct vietnam and not apac
Katharize [#106]oh ok i'll reply to this first
First International for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/19072/version1-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-reykjavik-main-event-ur1
conclusion they get 2'0edSecond match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/19081/x10-esports-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-reykjavik-main-event-lr1
conclusion they get 2'0ed3rd match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/34951/gambit-esports-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-opening-c
conclusion they get 2'0ed4th match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/34965/crazy-raccoon-vs-havan-liberty-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-elimination-c
conclusion they won 2'05th match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/34966/gambit-esports-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-decider-c
conclusion they get 2'0ed6th match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/51278/team-vikings-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-opening-c
conclusion they get 2'0ed7th match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/51280/team-secret-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-elim-c
conclusion they get 2'0edtotal maps won 2 out of 14.
they only played masters and champs as international events and never played some 3rd party international events so how can you prove that they are better than any of these T3 teams?
even in masters they only won Liberty.
what did they do so impressive to deserve a masters slot lol
the fact that they get viewers? like i said they get the most in asia. what does india have to offer? no viewers and worse gameplay
Ibis [#111]Ofc Japan has won ONE match in 3 LANS whereas no SA team even got the chance to go to one LAN. I’m not sure if Japan would qualify through APAC, i doubt it with Crazy Raccon tbh. Stop defending this anime region all the time, they bad af in valorant
doesnt matter lmao this is about SA deserving a spot, and these SA fans thinking JP is bad therefore SA should also get a spot. reality is SA is 100x worse than JP and they dont even bring in viewers like japan. and yes they did get a chance in lcq where they only won 1 game in the whole tourney. every region is simply ahead.
jimjam789 [#117]why would i not talk? if u actually knew anything about fps u would know that OCE team renegades and later 100T competed at the very top of tier 1 CSGO. whats indias most iconic moment? forsaken LMAO
lmao you just hit them with the word.exe
Katharize [#62]bruh SA val is gonna die like cs if this "yOu HaVwe tO ProVE YoUrSelf" shitshow continues. if you really need to prove then why is japan is having a direct slot huh?
Lmao you really are serious, arent you?
KssS [#60]yeah but EMEA only has 400-500M people while the whole of APAC has 2 billion. its already hard for teams to get signed here let alone have an opportunity to compete
Less people than APAC, but more player than APAC.
KssS [#100]the more the population the more the player base and viewers. how is that a bad comparison??
Because more people play valorant in Europe than APAC, that's why.
jimjam789 [#117]why would i not talk? if u actually knew anything about fps u would know that OCE team renegades and later 100T competed at the very top of tier 1 CSGO. whats indias most iconic moment? forsaken LMAO
Calm your ass down okie until unless sa teams dont fight jp in an official vct tourney its not clear of sa is better or jp put breaks to your -420iq. sea>sa thats for sure for right now but kr is not greater than sa, and stop milking this forsaken/word.exe event like its too much now a-holes that happened only one time, and thats a different game.
jimjam789 [#119]the fact that they get viewers? like i said they get the most in asia. what does india have to offer? no viewers and worse gameplay
based jimjam w
fracra [#34]idk man the guy was complaining that matches vs sg and id was unfair but clearly not.
Like nobody in the ge team not the public lol
Birssa [#125]Because more people play valorant in Europe than APAC, that's why.
u got a sauce for that ? APAC is waaay bigger than u think it is and last time i checked EU was still hooked on CS
DZeeMYRON [#130]u got a sauce for that ? APAC is waaay bigger than u think it is and last time i checked EU was still hooked on CS
https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/pe445a/stats_approximate_number_of_ranked_players_in/
Katharize [#106]oh ok i'll reply to this first
First International for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/19072/version1-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-reykjavik-main-event-ur1
conclusion they get 2'0edSecond match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/19081/x10-esports-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-reykjavik-main-event-lr1
conclusion they get 2'0ed3rd match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/34951/gambit-esports-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-opening-c
conclusion they get 2'0ed4th match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/34965/crazy-raccoon-vs-havan-liberty-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-elimination-c
conclusion they won 2'05th match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/34966/gambit-esports-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-decider-c
conclusion they get 2'0ed6th match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/51278/team-vikings-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-opening-c
conclusion they get 2'0ed7th match for cr
https://www.vlr.gg/51280/team-secret-vs-crazy-raccoon-valorant-champions-elim-c
conclusion they get 2'0edtotal maps won 2 out of 14.
they only played masters and champs as international events and never played some 3rd party international events so how can you prove that they are better than any of these T3 teams?
even in masters they only won Liberty.
what did they do so impressive to deserve a masters slot lol
ok see 1st of all Nth dominated every SEA team including PRX except FS that too in the Grand Finals nd Zeta/CR definitely better than Nth during LCQ times.So u can see Jp is actually better than T2 teams of SEA like Boom etc,let alone t3 team.So it is what it is India can't defeat these teams even in Mumbai server.nd this is kinda sad.Sk Rossi maybe an exception but others players need to level up a lot..
DaalLiya [#37]all matches against ph teams were played in sg server and indo team with player like adrn king lost a map to tier 2 indian team fs on mumbai server
r u dumb bro 1 was in Mumbai 1 was in Sg no f.o
Katharize [#82]No bro, Im just saying japan does not need to "yOu HaVwe tO ProVE YoUrSelf" to play a lan and SA need to "yOu HaVwe tO ProVE YoUrSelf" to play a lan. w0w so racist
JP’s 3rd best team reached finals in apac playoffs.While ge was eliminated in LR2.
They also have 4 times the viewership as us so we can’t say that for them
Yoorake [#135]If vietnam gets more slots than MY/SG then it's unfair
viet and mysg are in the same level
Olofboost [#15]Vietnam don't deserve to get more slots than Malaysia/Singapore
If they give Vietnam 3 and MY/SG 2 again, they will be the biggest clowns
Stage 1 - SMG 2nd place, VN nowhere
Stage 2 - PRX 3rd place, VN 9th-10th
Stage 3 - PRX 2nd place, VN 5th-8th
skill level wise, they r equal
jimjam789 [#119]the fact that they get viewers? like i said they get the most in asia. what does india have to offer? no viewers and worse gameplay
u never proved jp has more viewers
futoi [#138]skill level wise, they r equal
No
Paper Rex, Bleed, Kingsmen > any VN team
Baam was good afaik, but they revamped roster and their best player left
futoi [#137]viet and mysg are in the same level
i dont think baam, cerberus can really beat prx and bleed imo
Olofboost [#142]No
Paper Rex, Bleed, Kingsmen > any VN teamBaam was good afaik, but they revamped roster and their best player left
brehh stfu stop crying and wait for the results in APAC playoffs. then spread ur toxicity
DaalLiya [#37]all matches against ph teams were played in sg server and indo team with player like adrn king lost a map to tier 2 indian team fs on mumbai server
so fcking dumb hahaha , keep dreaming kids . ur team will get rekt by sea team
Katharize [#141]u never proved jp has more viewers
the fact that u need proof is literal proof u have no idea about the valorant community in general. https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/n34w8x/vct_japan_grand_finals_reaches_over_100000/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
100k LIVE japanese viewers and this was 7 months ago, and valorant jp is growing to this day.
jimjam789 [#148]the fact that u need proof is literal proof u have no idea about the valorant community in general. https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/n34w8x/vct_japan_grand_finals_reaches_over_100000/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
100k LIVE japanese viewers and this was 7 months ago, and valorant jp is growing to this day.
yea I dont live in japan so why the fuck would I know that lmao
Katharize [#150]yea I dont live in japan so why the fuck would I know that lmao
do u never go on twitch? lmaooo youve probably never watched a pro match in ur entire life then
jimjam789 [#151]do u never go on twitch? lmaooo youve probably never watched a pro match in ur entire life then
bruh I have a life unlike you
Katharize [#152]bruh I have a life unlike you
yet ur literally on vlr trying to send 100s of messages to prove a point which noone else agrees with lmao
Noob_dart [#27]Trust me we all want to compete against eu, na but riot wont give us our own challengers or more slots until we show hell lot of performance, i think that if both slots of vcc were won by indian teams they will move to chennai and will get around 30-40 ping which is great
GE and VLT will move to Thailand or some other SEA region to play APAC LCQ, so there is no ping diff
PrTsty [#50]SA has 2 for ghe SEA challengers playoffs, not 2 direct masters slots
There is no sea challengers playoff
DaalLiya [#33]yes with looses as chennai was having storm that day and india internet is shit
bruh i get max 30 ping on sg servers (avg 25) , dont say indian internet is bad(its one of the few things we got right)
wazoski_gg [#109]what about Korea, which didn't even reach 10k viewers when it was master champion
korea is just pure skill level(atleast before iceland) , some of the most standard strats used in pro play were made in korea (alot of my ranked strats are stolen korean pro strats) , also riot knows the potential of korean esports(just ask lol , overwatch and starcraft and no dont give the "ow is aimless game argument " just play widowmaker or mcree in gold and see) so riot's trying to tap into that
Katharize [#82]No bro, Im just saying japan does not need to "yOu HaVwe tO ProVE YoUrSelf" to play a lan and SA need to "yOu HaVwe tO ProVE YoUrSelf" to play a lan. w0w so racist
pls stop with the entire "racist" bs , if u wnna scream that go to brazil and start a family with trembolarage
niisama [#161]Eight countries get two slots into APAC playoffs, and a single country, like VN/TH/PH/ID, get 3 each
SO FAIR
your best team from 8 countries can't beat top 3 team from TH/PH/ID/MYSG
Fr1tZ [#162]your best team from 8 countries can't beat top 3 team from TH/PH/ID/MYSG
I like how you removed VN
Fr1tZ [#162]your best team from 8 countries can't beat top 3 team from TH/PH/ID/MYSG
Don't waste your time, no need to reply baits.
Fr1tZ [#162]your best team from 8 countries can't beat top 3 team from TH/PH/ID/MYSG
No problem, hoping for the best from our teams this season; let's see.
And don't talk as if riot is fair enough to give slots based on skill.
jimjam789 [#117]why would i not talk? if u actually knew anything about fps u would know that OCE team renegades and later 100T competed at the very top of tier 1 CSGO. whats indias most iconic moment? forsaken LMAO
Greyhound also ranked higher than RNG at one point.
jimjam789 [#120]doesnt matter lmao this is about SA deserving a spot, and these SA fans thinking JP is bad therefore SA should also get a spot. reality is SA is 100x worse than JP and they dont even bring in viewers like japan. and yes they did get a chance in lcq where they only won 1 game in the whole tourney. every region is simply ahead.
won 1 game? xd
recall whom GE defeated
GE also almost defeated F4Q
ask F4Q or watch that match
jimjam789 [#83]https://www.vlr.gg/event/784/the-esports-club-challenger-series-6/playoffs. out of 14 matches, there were only 2 matches where SA beat SEA and this tournament includes GE whereas sea has t3 teams lol. like i said, if u cant even beat t3 teams how can u expect SA to get a slot when JP at least has won an international game.
If u look closely, SA (atleast GE) has almost won all maps played on Mumbai server but they lost everytime on other server.
maverickg333 [#168]won 1 game? xd
recall whom GE defeated
GE also almost defeated F4Q
ask F4Q or watch that match
however they performed vs f4q doesnt change the fact that they only won a single game in lcq. GE has lost to no name tier 3 SEA teams in minor tourneys does that necessarily mean that these teams are better than GE? same story here. hypotheticals are useless
jimjam789 [#170]however they performed vs f4q doesnt change the fact that they only won a single game in lcq. GE has lost to no name tier 3 SEA teams in minor tourneys does that necessarily mean that these teams are better than GE? same story here. hypotheticals are useless
maps against SEA teams were lost when it was played on other server and they were winning almost all maps on Mumbai.
We'll see on LAN, without it no one can judge.
jimjam789 [#170]however they performed vs f4q doesnt change the fact that they only won a single game in lcq. GE has lost to no name tier 3 SEA teams in minor tourneys does that necessarily mean that these teams are better than GE? same story here. hypotheticals are useless
and that was not a fluke, its so easy to say it sitting comfy on ur couch.
Fr1tZ [#162]your best team from 8 countries can't beat top 3 team from TH/PH/ID/MYSG
Guys (everyone) please stop this bs it's no use wish luck to your representatives may the best teams represent us on the big stages , let the players do the talking. All the talk about regions being treated unfairly is also bs in my perspective yes teams from TH PH etc played better than our teams in 2021 but you shouldn't trast talk and we shouldn't complain about the minor ping issue and slots. Our teams will be going to Thailand to compete this time so no excuses may the best team win
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