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VCT APAC 2022 Format

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#1
Tamag0

Indonesian Organizer just announced that Indonesia would get 3 Direct Slot into APAC Challengers Playoff

I'll assume Thailand, Philippines, and Vietnam get the same number. (Based on last SEA Challengers allocation)

So, based on that number, APAC Challengers would be joined by 20-24 teams.

Source: https://valorant.oneup.co.id/

#2
DeluluGavin
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woah thats naise

#3
Araragi
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24 teams playoff will be so boring.

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makoidk
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theres gonna be groups into double elim bracket most likely, like SEA playoffs

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DZeeMYRON
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necessary evil, according to me. the region is so Hugh that anything less would be unjust

#38
MilanTheMyth
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it will be the opposite. wdym? I'm sure there will be group stage then.

#69
trola
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wdym? its gonna be super competitive

#102
PrTsty
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Then ignore it until its only 16 teams left, or 8 whatever u like

#103
omen22
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24 teams 2 slots cant get more intense

#147
skyro
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ratio

#4
youngbonk
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LAN Playoff please

#40
MilanTheMyth
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yes please

#5
D3ltAgg
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So how many teams will go to Masters from APAC playoffs ? can someone tell me
If there will be 24 teams id say they should give us 4 slots or 3 maybe
cuz APAC will consist of OCE,SA and SEA
SEA had 2 slots earlier so 3or 4 makes sense

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makoidk
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sa has 2 slots

#8
D3ltAgg
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No I am talking about the Masters slot from APAC challemgers

#10
makoidk
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my fault, yeah it should be 3 or 4

#43
PrTsty
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There is no way its 4 btw. Probably 3, maybe even only 2

#11
DaalLiya
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literally 3 indo teams in playoffs and sa gets 2 slots with 7 countries shitshow from riot again and india give much more live viewers and players to riot than all sea combine

#12
Noob_dart
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Shut up we got our chance lets first prove and go to masters or champions this year (2022) then we can ask for sa challengers or more slots in 2023 apac

#24
DaalLiya
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yes by qualifying against 20 teams on high ping and winning against teams from indo and sg playing on 10 to 12 ping its quite easy path for SA teams to masters according to you and riot south asia

#27
Noob_dart
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Trust me we all want to compete against eu, na but riot wont give us our own challengers or more slots until we show hell lot of performance, i think that if both slots of vcc were won by indian teams they will move to chennai and will get around 30-40 ping which is great

#32
DaalLiya
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game will be dead till riot sees performance in us tbh . i think max to max 2 years before valo esports scene dies like cs in india

#39
Noob_dart
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You really think we cant win against sea? Just trust our pros they will surely become stronger once they got proper coaches, we came a long way without having proper coaches and all now its time to win the apac, i trust in my region plus we have views and TOs like tec and skyesports becuase of our views no way val be dead in our region especially after we get slots in apac playoffs have patience

#42
DaalLiya
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i have seen these players since cs days indian never perform online and sg and indo teams take full advantage of low ping since cs days

#81
redclv
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lol so underestimate indo ? you guys got rekt by alter ego hahaha

#154
AeRIX
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GE and VLT will move to Thailand or some other SEA region to play APAC LCQ, so there is no ping diff

#30
fracra
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wasn't GE vs PRX pretty fair ping where GE got 30ish ping and they got...... nvm

#31
Noob_dart
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It was fair nobody said ping diff though

#34
fracra
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idk man the guy was complaining that matches vs sg and id was unfair but clearly not.

#129
Noob_dart
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Like nobody in the ge team not the public lol

#33
DaalLiya
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yes with looses as chennai was having storm that day and india internet is shit

#55
Mincho
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stop giving excuses man.

#67
utsav
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G@@nd tod dunga bakwaas band kr

#157
Kk0bra
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bruh i get max 30 ping on sg servers (avg 25) , dont say indian internet is bad(its one of the few things we got right)

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Infernando10
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braindamage

#62
Katharize
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bruh SA val is gonna die like cs if this "yOu HaVwe tO ProVE YoUrSelf" shitshow continues. if you really need to prove then why is japan is having a direct slot huh?

#63
Noob_dart
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they just gave slot to japan just because of views but its also a fact that in upcoming years viewership in Indian esports would be fucking massive much more than japan's viewership so I personally think riot will invest little by little in sa every year and when we have great amount of viewership, we would get our own challengers, before that we have to do this so-called shitshow of "prove yourself first" to get it

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PrTsty
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SA wont have to prove themselves. As soon riot increases the slots for masters and champions overall SA will get a direct slot. From then on they will have to prove if they are worth having multiple slots

#109
wazoski_gg
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what about Korea, which didn't even reach 10k viewers when it was master champion

#159
Kk0bra
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korea is just pure skill level(atleast before iceland) , some of the most standard strats used in pro play were made in korea (alot of my ranked strats are stolen korean pro strats) , also riot knows the potential of korean esports(just ask lol , overwatch and starcraft and no dont give the "ow is aimless game argument " just play widowmaker or mcree in gold and see) so riot's trying to tap into that

#64
hotpotatoman
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CR/ZETA > whole of SA

#65
Noob_dart
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Ya say this without letting sa teams fight them, every region playstyle is counter to some other region so you cant say

#66
jimjam789
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CR has at least won a game in international play and nearly beat gmb on icebox. Wtf has SA done? Lose to t3 sea teams lmaoo

#70
Katharize
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yea but after getting spoon-feed by riot in 3 fucking lans ?

#71
Katharize
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and when did SA has gotten to play a lan?

#74
jimjam789
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are you dumb? they can play on lan once they beat a t3 sea amateur team.

#80
Katharize
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who?

#82
Katharize
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No bro, Im just saying japan does not need to "yOu HaVwe tO ProVE YoUrSelf" to play a lan and SA need to "yOu HaVwe tO ProVE YoUrSelf" to play a lan. w0w so racist

#83
jimjam789
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https://www.vlr.gg/event/784/the-esports-club-challenger-series-6/playoffs. out of 14 matches, there were only 2 matches where SA beat SEA and this tournament includes GE whereas sea has t3 teams lol. like i said, if u cant even beat t3 teams how can u expect SA to get a slot when JP at least has won an international game.

#115
Rachit
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Almost defeated the masters team F4Q

#116
Parichay
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it is better if you don't talk Austrailia....... please just for your own sake.

#117
jimjam789
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why would i not talk? if u actually knew anything about fps u would know that OCE team renegades and later 100T competed at the very top of tier 1 CSGO. whats indias most iconic moment? forsaken LMAO

#121
KssS
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lmao you just hit them with the word.exe

#126
Noob_dart
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Calm your ass down okie until unless sa teams dont fight jp in an official vct tourney its not clear of sa is better or jp put breaks to your -420iq. sea>sa thats for sure for right now but kr is not greater than sa, and stop milking this forsaken/word.exe event like its too much now a-holes that happened only one time, and thats a different game.

#166
Hasbulla
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Greyhound also ranked higher than RNG at one point.

#101
hotpotatoman
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not like a pro analyst or anything but i feel like SA's playstyle is just a weaker version of SEA

#79
Katharize
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you dumb af lmao

#84
Katharize
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bro they improved because they got vip treatment from riot and played masters 1 2 and champs they got expose to international teams

while SA just played vcc still defected damwon gaming, nearly defected F4Q, got rolled by prx(best sea at the time)

#155
AeRIX
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got destroyed by X10C xD

#123
array
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Lmao you really are serious, arent you?

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Fate01
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stop cryin over it man, be grateful SA is gettin 2 slots and a direct participation with all SEA and OCE teams
P.S. Vietnam , HK/TW, OCE also gets 2 slots.

#19
DaalLiya
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vietnam,hk 2 slots xd shittest region in sea and sa with 7 countries with way more player and viewer also get 2 slots make no sense from riot

#21
Infernando10
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its not always about viewers or more players. If it was actually that way then SEA and SA would get all the slots in Masters and Champions

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Fate01
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you gotta stop saying SA as 7 countries when there are literally just 2 countries of significance ( IN and PK) and a total of 4 competitive teams in whole of SA that can somewhat take on against these SEA teams you just memed at. Stick to reality and face the facts.

#23
DaalLiya
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There are easly more than 6 good teams in south asia

#26
Fr1tZ
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your best team got destroyed by an unfamous PH team in your own SERVER. shut up

#37
DaalLiya
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all matches against ph teams were played in sg server and indo team with player like adrn king lost a map to tier 2 indian team fs on mumbai server

#49
wolkSy_vlrt
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Just lost a map, AE win that match. YOUR BEST TEAM LOST TO AE IN TEC SHOWDOWN!

#134
sJoker
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r u dumb bro 1 was in Mumbai 1 was in Sg no f.o

#146
redclv
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so fcking dumb hahaha , keep dreaming kids . ur team will get rekt by sea team

#28
fracra
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only good within their region.

#53
GGgod
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maybe when our best teams stop losing vs tier 3 no name teams we can get more slots lmao
We should be happy we are getting even 2 with the kind of performance we have had even on our own servers or vs PH teams on similar ping on SG lmao

#73
utsav
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Tujhe Jo maine garam sariya diya usse tune apne g@@nd me Daal liya?

#108
StockfishZ
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SA never even play against vietnam/hk teams, just be humble and grateful you guys get 2 chance at APAC playoffs

#112
DaalLiya
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yes tell them to qualify for tournaments where SA teams play

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DaalLiya
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its nothing sort of grateful done by riot it would be better if they wouldn't give slots player would have moved back to cs where valve cared more valve gave direct slot to indian team into major in 2013 and we had slot for esl pro league in sea circuit when people india didn't even had idea about esports if cs was as popular in as valorant india valve would have easily given slot atleast into minors .

#75
utsav
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Vlr.gg jldi leave krde isse pehle ki tere messages me gandi gaaliyan bhari ho🙂

#97
PrTsty
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Just stfu please, ok?

#36
omen22
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We are getting a chance to be a part of this is more than enough imo

#41
DaalLiya
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its better to not get chances than riot pretending to give chances to sa when region like Vietnam and hk/taiwan get same number of slots as you

#45
Noob_dart
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Its true riot are a-holes but we cannot do anything its their game they make these rules

#15
Olofboost
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Vietnam don't deserve to get more slots than Malaysia/Singapore
If they give Vietnam 3 and MY/SG 2 again, they will be the biggest clowns
Stage 1 - SMG 2nd place, VN nowhere
Stage 2 - PRX 3rd place, VN 9th-10th
Stage 3 - PRX 2nd place, VN 5th-8th

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Fate01
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VN is getting 2 slots , chill out

#17
Olofboost
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Source?

So no source nice
You think Riot will be smart and give slots based on last year's success

If that was the case, Brazil would have 1 (not 2) and EMEA would have 7-8 (not 4) this year

Riot are always doing whatever they want even if it's not fair from competitive perspective

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Infernando10
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trust him bro

#51
nyomski
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https://m.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=3100577356845691&amp%3Bset=gm.1079523786159299
Here it shows 2 slot to APAC from VN

#52
bambamskrrt
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niceeeee, olofboost will sleep in peace tonight.

#54
Sprlonely
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2 slots to VCT VN Challengers not APAC

#57
bambamskrrt
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that does not make sense, why would they be only for 2 team from VN that qualified for their own VN challengers?

#61
Sprlonely
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Invited teams

#118
prophet_m1mosa
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it was a small tournament by vng corp and top 2 qualify to vct vietnam and not apac

#78
utsav
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And NA would have zero😂

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makoidk
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yea whats ur source, would be fair tho honestly, vn imo is the second worst subregion in SEA

#46
bambamskrrt
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true, I will cry if vn get more than my/sg

#138
futoi
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skill level wise, they r equal

#142
Olofboost
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No
Paper Rex, Bleed, Kingsmen > any VN team

Baam was good afaik, but they revamped roster and their best player left

#145
Fate01
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brehh stfu stop crying and wait for the results in APAC playoffs. then spread ur toxicity

#25
KssS
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IMO SA should have AT LEAST 1 direct slot to masters. SEA is already crowded enough cause OCE is in the mix

#35
Tamag0
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If they get decent results, Riot might give them a direct slot on 2023

#59
Birssa
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EU and CIS got decent resulsts. They still stuck together in EMEA.

#60
KssS
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yeah but EMEA only has 400-500M people while the whole of APAC has 2 billion. its already hard for teams to get signed here let alone have an opportunity to compete

#94
PrTsty
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Thats a bad comparison tbh, u have to compare it to the playerbase not the population

#100
KssS
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the more the population the more the player base and viewers. how is that a bad comparison??

#104
PrTsty
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Population only increases POTENTIAL playerbase. For example, asia has like 6 billion people (I think) and a playerbase in val from around 3-4 million (I dont know exactly) while europe has 2-3 million players.

Its much closer than the 500mil vs 2 billion that u stated

EMEA has a bigger playerbase then SEA and SA together

#125
Birssa
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Because more people play valorant in Europe than APAC, that's why.

#130
DZeeMYRON
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u got a sauce for that ? APAC is waaay bigger than u think it is and last time i checked EU was still hooked on CS

#131
lanka
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Cap

#105
Fr1tZ
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EMEA has bigger playerbase than APAC

#124
Birssa
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Less people than APAC, but more player than APAC.

#96
PrTsty
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Because CIS has no viewers and orgs wont invest into the CIS region if the only way of getting exposure is getting to masters, which is almost impossible against gambit atm

#56
DrudaL
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yea i actually agree, apac now so much they gather SEA, SA, OCE gonna be chaos

#44
prophet_m1mosa
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the prophet thinks this might be the format

https://twitter.com/m1mosa_prophet/status/1476119239094243328?s=20

#58
DrudaL
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why tf they keep giving vn so much slot

#68
trola
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damn thailand and ph should get more slot, 4 at least

#72
KssS
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nah ph with 3 is just fine. right now its a 3 way tie between Team Secret, South Built Esports, and Bren Esports.

#76
trola
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i mean, rather than giving slot to country that did not perform good in the past tourney, its better to give ph and thai more slot

#113
StockfishZ
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The prophet has spoken 🙏

#47
PIMPERTON
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sounds great :D

#48
Skyss
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VCT APAC : top 4 ez from SEA.. change my mind

#77
jimjam789
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;

#89
ufc
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What are the other good Indonesian teams besides papersex?

#92
TMosura
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Paper Rex isn't even Indonesian. They have two Indonesian players, but they're still a Malaysian/Singaporean team. Good Indonesian teams include BOOM, Alter Ego, and ONIC as the current stars, with maybe Bigetron Astro, XcN, and Morph Impact as the mid-tier 1 teams. Then you have the rest of the Tier 2 teams.

#110
Tamag0
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PRX is Singaporean.

Decent Indonesian teams:

Top 3 - BOOM, ONIC, Alter Ego
Challengers - BEAST, MORPH, Bigetron
Contenders - XCN, Lords of Heist, Dewa United

#140
qwertasdf
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BTW PRX is MY/SG team

#149
latex
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"papersex"

#98
Katharize
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y

#114
coguyy
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if lan skrossi will diff sea onliners

#122
scum
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tier 9 region anyways

#127
thatpower
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this thread was fun to read

#135
Yoorake
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If vietnam gets more slots than MY/SG then it's unfair

#137
futoi
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viet and mysg are in the same level

#144
hotpotatoman
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i dont think baam, cerberus can really beat prx and bleed imo

#139
qwertasdf
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Both get 3 ig

#143
GAZZA1975
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should be 4 slot for APAC, all whos get into semi

#161
niisama
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Eight countries get two slots into APAC playoffs, and a single country, like VN/TH/PH/ID, get 3 each
SO FAIR

#162
Fr1tZ
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your best team from 8 countries can't beat top 3 team from TH/PH/ID/MYSG

#163
niisama
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I like how you removed VN

#167
Fr1tZ
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i mean i think SA > VN LMAO

#164
Tamag0
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Don't waste your time, no need to reply baits.

#165
niisama
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No problem, hoping for the best from our teams this season; let's see.
And don't talk as if riot is fair enough to give slots based on skill.

#173
TaskMaster
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Guys (everyone) please stop this bs it's no use wish luck to your representatives may the best teams represent us on the big stages , let the players do the talking. All the talk about regions being treated unfairly is also bs in my perspective yes teams from TH PH etc played better than our teams in 2021 but you shouldn't trast talk and we shouldn't complain about the minor ping issue and slots. Our teams will be going to Thailand to compete this time so no excuses may the best team win

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