Okay Split done, so the 7 current map are done, I might also do Ascent and Lotus if someone asks (Or they are an announce they are back)
https://youtube.com/shorts/8bTlosXGUYc
tldw ;
riensluvr [#3]finally a map where your double controller is actually viable
i’m actually surprised no tier 1 team leaned into yoru double controller on split
edit: i am more so talking about solo initiator comps
I actually don't know what teams are currently doing on this map but I really wanna see double controller double duelist comps on this map with Fade and Viper of course Serving as the Sentinel.
catNmouse [#7]what is bait about it?
raze isnt a "must-have"
astra isnt better than omen its just about the style the team plays
why is the "correct" archetype is 2 controller, 2 initiator? double duel or having a senti is just much better
having to explain these things makes me feel like I fell for bait because these seem very obvious but idk
termtermtermterm [#6]is this bait?
no this is very serious, how do you fail to see that?
KiwiJuice [#9]no this is very serious, how do you fail to see that?
yeah see it is bait okay I got my answer cool
Yea pretty much have no complaints about this one. Omen is probably even worse compared to Astra due to paranoia nerf but we have to see how that plays out since the paranoia nerf doesn't seem too impactful.
I would be interested to see if more teams try running chamber on this map though since we haven't really seen split post-chamber buff, might be viable alternative for teams who can't double duelist
termtermtermterm [#8]raze isnt a "must-have"
astra isnt better than omen its just about the style the team plays
why is the "correct" archetype is 2 controller, 2 initiator? double duel or having a senti is just much betterhaving to explain these things makes me feel like I fell for bait because these seem very obvious but idk
No agent is a must have but it is a fact that teams who ran raze were a lot more successful than teams that didn't. Double controller is just more successful and I am pretty sure, Anguibok counted yoru as "initiator" due to flashes so yea
termtermtermterm [#8]raze isnt a "must-have"
astra isnt better than omen its just about the style the team plays
why is the "correct" archetype is 2 controller, 2 initiator? double duel or having a senti is just much betterhaving to explain these things makes me feel like I fell for bait because these seem very obvious but idk
this is based off statistics, she’s just pointing them out
catNmouse [#4]i’m actually surprised no tier 1 team leaned into yoru double controller on split
edit: i am more so talking about solo initiator comps
waylay yoru is just overpowered regardless idk
dimmed [#12]No agent is a must have but it is a fact that teams who ran raze were a lot more successful than teams that didn't. Double controller is just more successful and I am pretty sure, Anguibok counted yoru as "initiator" due to flashes so yea
Sorry wouldn't that just mean that Raze is good against comps that are weak against Raze? So if I played optimal according to this comp wouldn't that mean that the best comp is weak against the best comp? And would that mean that it isn't the best comp?
Flame4Game [#17]Is triple Controller viable?
Yoru - Fade - Astra/Omen/Viper
Only gonna work if the omen n yoru are lunatics cuz otherwise u have no movement duelist to send it in and pull crosshairs…
Maybe might work for 1 game as a surprise or anti to a specific team
m4 [#18]Sorry wouldn't that just mean that Raze is good against comps that are weak against Raze? So if I played optimal according to this comp wouldn't that mean that the best comp is weak against the best comp? And would that mean that it isn't the best comp?
I know you are trolling but meta comps being "weak" against the same meta comp doesn't mean the meta comp isn't the best comp. It could be the case that literally every other comp is worse against that meta comp so mirroring becomes the best option.
termtermtermterm [#8]raze isnt a "must-have"
astra isnt better than omen its just about the style the team plays
why is the "correct" archetype is 2 controller, 2 initiator? double duel or having a senti is just much betterhaving to explain these things makes me feel like I fell for bait because these seem very obvious but idk
why is the "correct" archetype is 2 controller, 2 initiator
It's a typo and it's corrected, it's actually hillarous nobody noticed I wrote Init instead of duel even if the video says otherwise (And I say the correct comp is Yoru-Viper)
But not, it's not baiting Raze is amazing and you need a really serious reason to not pick her on this map. No senti is way better, it was before nerf and it's even worse after nerf
dimmed [#20]I know you are trolling but meta comps being "weak" against the same meta comp doesn't mean the meta comp isn't the best comp. It could be the case that literally every other comp is worse against that meta comp so mirroring becomes the best option.
I'm sort of trolling for the purpose of exposing truth.
Abstracting compositions from the gameplay itself is problematic and that's why I'm highlighting it. It's not rock-paper-scissors and while ultimate abilities may turn rounds, it's player decision making that would make them optimal, not the existence of the abilities or agent's themselves. I tried to push Ang to talk about the "why" as it's far more interesting and important than discussing what agents are the best to play on each map.
dimmed [#11]Yea pretty much have no complaints about this one. Omen is probably even worse compared to Astra due to paranoia nerf but we have to see how that plays out since the paranoia nerf doesn't seem too impactful.
I would be interested to see if more teams try running chamber on this map though since we haven't really seen split post-chamber buff, might be viable alternative for teams who can't double duelist
I really can see some potential in Chamber there, him and Veta hacve a shot
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