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cryo’s closed mindset

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#1
Wolfed

why does he refuse to put effort into learning new/actually good agents? why does he only choose to play agents that need aim (not even overall mechanics, like neon) and never any agent that takes actual skill?

atp i’d rather have demon1 on my team of i was a coach, demon1 is capable of learning… is cryo the embodiment of all aim no brain?

#2
BerLINglazer
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yea hes kinda skibidi

#3
sw4gman
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see demon1 actually plays for the team, his dumbass coaches just thought he was a duelist player.

cryo isnt interested unless he's on an agent he can op crutch on. Bum really said he was lft for duelist and senti as if he's good at either😹😹😹

#6
BerLINglazer
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di1mond 1 is kinda skibidi too tho

#9
TheFumbler
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Duelist and Senti more like Jett and chamber. LMAO he will be teamless next year if he doesnt expand his agent pool because the current 100T arent doing shit next year if they play with these comps and strats

#10
sw4gman
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just wait for the people here who'll say "actually he can play gekko astra omen brimstone iso sage"

as if he wasnt mid on half of those agents, and the other half 100t just picked for his "comfort". Notice how you cant say "cryo is good at x role" cause he CANT pick a role he has to flip flop to playing 1 agent per role

#11
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And there are some more who will say chamber is viable on all maps so him playing chamber is not the problem. There is no point in arguing with these guys, they will defend cryo's inflexible agent pool like their life depends on it.

#12
Wolfed
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its true though. his agent pool is pretty solid.

#4
themaniel
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demon1 sneak

#7
Wolfed
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cryo is the one that snuck his way into tier 1 lets be honest here

#5
hellfire
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of all names of actually flexible/capable players you picked the guy who got kicked for much better players 2 years in a row

#8
Wolfed
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yes thats exactly why i took him as an example

despite that, demon1 has a growth mindset while cryo refuses to step outside of his comfort zone for the sake of improvement

#15
hellfire
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at least cryo got something going on for himself, way before franchising, its 100t system and I doubt his impact or agent pool is any kind of liability

#22
Divine_Thunder
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"I doubt his impact or agent pool is any kind of liability" his only useful agent is yoru which isnt even top tier like jaw/zekken etc.

#13
PrincePuma01
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To be fair demon1 was frying on Lev weeks before he got cut.
He started of mid but eventually started dominating before getting cut

#14
hellfire
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frying apparently means having an above 1 rating

#16
foythvlr
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same agent pool for four years and people think no one tried to change that lol

#17
MrBlooBloom
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he literally did learn other agents. He isn't the one deciding the comps.

#19
GodAwfulGod
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"Learn" as in he played them and relied on aim rather than having any semblance of good util on any of them apart from Chamber and Jett

#24
MrBlooBloom
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you're talking as if he was supposed to play recon and not fucking senti, ie the roles with the easiest util lol. His util is absolutely fine y'all are just trying to find non-existent reasons to hate on him

#27
GodAwfulGod
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If your saying this then you didn't watch him play either cypher or veto on split. Both times he just relied on his aim while his Util did practically nothing. Also his defensive setups were bad too, he basically just rotated between the same 3 over and over.

#28
MrBlooBloom
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on veto you should indeed rely on your aim cuz your util is useless (well the tps aren't but they are only complementary to the aim)
and they should not be playing cypher in the first place cuz it's really really bad espacially on defense (and having 3 setups is fine especially considering it's the off season and they clearly don't know what route to follow on split)

#31
GodAwfulGod
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You see though this is exactly what I'm talking about, he just relies on aim heavy agents that aren't meta and doesn't play any agents that actually require util, and then when he does his util is ass and people still defend him because he shoots good.

#32
MrBlooBloom
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but he literally isn't the one choosing the comps like what is he supposed to do lol?? Also every single senti is aim reliant like what are we even saying

#34
GodAwfulGod
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You really think that tier 1 coaches aren't taking into consideration their whole teams playstyle and agent pools when building comps?
Also, yes every Senti is aim reliant, but so is every agent in the game, that doesn't change that he doesn't know how to use proper util on any agent that isn't sage, iso, jett or chamber.

#37
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I think you forget that NBS has some very specific reads on the meta and cryo's strenghts on chamber are a bad excuse for him to run some wacky comps. And no not every role in the game is aim reliant. Senti is definitely the one that relies the most on raw mechanics. Trust me the reason he hasn't played KJ so far is not because the util is too difficult for him

#38
GodAwfulGod
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NBS's reads on the meta aside, every agent relies on aim because that's literally the main mechanic of the game, just because some need kills more than others doesn't change that. Also, he's just bad at KJ in every way util included which is why he doesn't play it.

#29
hellfire
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try finding a veto that doesn't play like that lmao

#30
foythvlr
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cypher is the worst example possible cause 90% of the time hes would be just doing his setup and aiming lol

#18
KClaw
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See i dont think its cryo's fault considering he doesnt make comps, he prolly would have learned other agents, 100t has a wierd flexibility pool with asuna and cryo but 2024 gave them a false sense of hope to lean on, i feel like if 2024 didnt work for them they would have put cryo on perma duelist even raze and neon and make asuna learn other shit which would have been a banger decision, dambi in early 2025 was just like asuna he was a sliding neon who just created space and look how far it got ns ( not much), only now has dambi changed his playstyle. currently i feel like its better to put cryo on chamber since he did got famous on chamber and he does play and frag extremely well

#20
Prase
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Cryo is not a hard entry to put on raze or neon. Thats why Asuna was on those roles to throw his body.

#23
m4
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This. Cryo does well when he is in front of the enemy on even footing.

#41
flames-leleo
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I don't know how Asuna hasn't gotten tired of killing himself entrying to make the cryo shine all these years.

#21
Prase
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And it’s too early for you to react this way. I get all your points and I wont disagree with you but season is way tooo long and it hasn’t even started yet to have this type of conversation. This is like an after stage 1 type conversation let them atleast debut this roster on the stage.

#43
Wolfed
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i am talking about the Cryo we have seen play for the past, what, 4 years

#25
9wntr
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9

#26
InYourDreams
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It’s is same like the jingg problem but still jingg at least Will and learned omen while Cryo rotting around while being chamber and Jett one trick

#33
SENfns
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make him perma play yoru like jawgemo

#35
LouBag
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Cryo: one of the best pure aimers and Ops in NA
VLR: Why does cryo play op and aim agents?!?!?!?

#36
fallwithtj
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i have been talking about this. Yes he is one of the best aimers in the world which is exactly why him being on sentinel is perfect. But for some odd reason he doesnt ever play it. But I have a good feeling it will be different this year. He is going to play alot of Chamber, Cypher, and hopefully Vyse.

#40
RoastBeef
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so you pick diamond1 with the exact same agent pool and mindset as cryo?? lmfao good bait

#42
Duduajo
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He needs to go to Cs2

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