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vct mandela effect

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#1
SkyXD

Mandela effect, popularized phenomenon in which a group of people collectively misremember facts, events, or other details in a consistent manner.

personally i swear SEN crashies has existed before even though it hasn’t

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termtermtermterm
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T1 crashies was real.

#6
SkyXD
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i don’t even know why but 100T crashies fits so well as well

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for me it’s FNC Keiko

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I think it's because apeks logo look like Fnatic's and the fact he is has british as FNC

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229fn
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probably, plus he's actually good at the game which is a fnatic thing

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contrary to popular belief pancada wasnt the actual mvp of champions 22

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it was Less

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it could be tbh

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he had the highest stats on loud in every metric except kast and vlr rating

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i think he got negative like one time during the entire event and it was on loud's only loss which is crazy
but the entire team was so insane on that run its hard to decide a mvp

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he was the most consistent piece so i give it to him. also the ace against optic on haven was the nail in the coffin on the map

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fair enough

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This is not CS, there is no overall MVP award like HLTV awards from CS.

There is only one official award and its the FINALS MVP + Regions MVP at the end of the year, guess what?

Less has neither.

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bro's just mad Less carried aspas in the one international win they have. its okay aspas has a lot of top 5 finishes to make up for it

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Imagine your goat being washed at 20 years, that MF couldn't qualify for a champions without Aspas in his entire career.

Last champions played was 2023 btw.

Give me freedom.

Give me fire.

Give me Aspas.

Or i retire.

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aspas without Less: 1 regional, 0 internationals
Less without aspas: 1 regional, 0 internationals

and dont bring up "oh he got top3" or "oh he was the highest rated" because neither of these players give a fuck about anything but winning. they need eachother stop lying to yourself

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You can glaze your washed 20y old player.

Aspas doesn't need Less to play at the top level of the game, Less on the other side if he doesn't do shit this year...

Well i have some bad news for you.

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The fact none of you think of Aspas tells a lot

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We don't because there is a clip from a SENTINELS vlog where pancada is saying to Zellsis that he is a champions MVP and now on bench.

Thats where this "Pancada champs MVP" comes from, it comes from his mouth.

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aspas is a pretty valid option actually

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burritx
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"popular belief" literally no one thinks he's champs mvp 😭 he got a mvp award from thespike but absolutely no one uses that site to know it

#32
foythvlr
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a lot of people think that (he himself thinks that too)

#35
burritx
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he got a mvp award from thespike

get off tiktok brochacho your attention span is cooked🥀

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foythvlr
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i dont understand whats your point im saying he wasnt the official mvp besides a lot of people thinking he was

#42
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you can't say a couple of people being wrong is a mandela effect lol, ask anyone who champs 2022 mvp was and they'll say either sacy or aspas, and in the event they say pancada only 1 out of 10 will NOT know it's thespike's award

you can't use "he himself thinks that too" as an argument when not even 10 seconds after he says that in the clip you're referring he goes into liquipedia and shows zellsis thespike.gg page of his award

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i think you are underrating the average stupidity of people

you can't use "he himself thinks that too" as an argument when not even 10 seconds after he says that in the clip you're referring he goes into liquipedia and shows zellsis thespike.gg page of his award

how does that contradict what im saying 😭

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brother I have used this site for nearly 4 years, not a single time have I ever seen anyone call pancada the mvp of champs 2022, I'm basing this on facts 💀

how does that contradict what im saying 😭

because you're saying it like even pancada himself is misremembering the tourney he played in?? 😭

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im saying he says hes the mvp which he clearly says and thinks lmfao

brother I have used this site for nearly 4 years, not a single time have I ever seen anyone call pancada the mvp of champs 2022, I'm basing this on facts 💀

this site is like at most 20% of the entire vct community

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cloudberry
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People nowadays seem to think Saadhak was always an initiator player when in fact he was flash initiator + Viper + Killjoy with the occasional Raze

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foythvlr
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back in the days he was a full on sentinel main

#18
cloudberry
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That's what he should've been on KC as well tbh, the recon role never really worked for him (nor did Harbor, he's best when the Harbor is being played by somebody else)

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yeah i think he was trying to adapt but it turns out scan init is his worst role by far LOL
even as duelist he was decent on raze split
his best agent is still kayo tho

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cloudberry
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scan init is his worst role by far LOL

Neon was definitely worse, let's be honest

And yeah I think his best 3 agents were KAY/O Breach Viper in some order (his Killjoy and Deadlock aren't bad either)

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should we even count the neon..

#39
cloudberry
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I don't want to, but it happened, so we must

#36
foythvlr
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his viper is pretty underrated because he kept being outshined by less and only could play it when he was on killjoy duty LOL

#38
cloudberry
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Facts bro

That LOUD roster just had too many good Viper players. Hell, tuyz never got to play it and he's CRAZY on Viper

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real ones remember tuyz viper on early 24 he was going ballistic on every breeze

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cloudberry
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I unironically think you sign tuyz and play perma Viper if you're a South American org rn

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Hyssopus1
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Pancada champions 2022 MVP, even himself believes that.

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GattoVLR
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It's because they didn't announce the MVP that year. And Pancada won as a MVP on TheSpike. So, they presume that he was the MVP of the camp

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FAKEYY
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Nats being spelled with a 4 instead of a A

n4ts became nats

#26
JoeTheGreyhound
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optic ethan

#30
Arun777
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KOI Sayf for some reason idk why lol

#33
FAKEYY
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Koldementa and Sayf looks the same

#45
king_bob
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masters madrid being important

#48
chasethefuture
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KangKang not the real FMVP in champs seoul

#49
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Ardis' real name isn't Keith.

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