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Oh my god man valyn was a good igl and his team was one of the best in NA all the way back 2022, since then his roster as upgraded in terms of talent. Saadhak mentored less, and Zekken was already extremely talented and making deep runs with xset. He definitely helped but to say he made these players is stupid asf.
Sacy has 2 VCB so he has 4 trophies if u are not counting the importance of the trophies, 1 Champs >>>>> 1 LOCK//IN and 1 Masters
beside that, Sacy literally CREATED the vct americas
Less, Aspas, Pancada, Zekken, Zellsis, JohnQT, Valyn, Cortezia he is the teacher and the mastermind behind all of them, and is the ONLY player to win a Masters and a Champion
all of the listed above already said that everything they know, sacy is the one that teached them, Valyn is the IGL of G2, so everything Trent/Leaf/JonahP know or atleast a good part of it is from Valyn, and everything Valyn know came from Sacy, Sacy LITERALLY created EVERY SINGLE winning team on VCT americas history
yeah but he still wasnt a fragger since 2022, I dont know how he can be top 3 all time when he had 1 really good year and average to below average for the rest. Out of game impact is hard to judge and doesnt make a player better than a crazy shooter imo.
Would put zekken over sacy all time aswell but people arent ready for that conversation.
This is next level glaze btw, VCB trophies are some of the weakest domestic trophies because at the time outside of loud BR weren’t strong and chron has 5 domestic trophies (4 from fnc and 1 from gmb), so he has 8 in total.
His ass literally got hard carried to second trophy btw while nearly always going negative and having bizarre deaths as initiator
Nats created the viper setups on bind and icebox and a lot of cypher/kj setups and also lurking so therefore every single sentinel who won a trophy should donate their trophy to him by your logic
u compared trophies without taking into consideration the tier and importance of it, I just pointed that if u want to compare number of trophies without the importance of it, Sacy has more, and if u want to put the importance of it in account, that Sacy has bigger trophier (1 Champions and 1 Masters is WAY better than 2 Masters and 1 Lock//IN)
Yeah, EVERY SINGLE person of that roster, TENZ, ZELLSIS, JOHNQT, every single one of them said in some point that they could not have won that masters without Sacy and that he was very important, but sure, UNCLEBEN know more than them
True, agree, and he is one of the biggest players in val history, but he never won anything AND he didnt TEACH anyone the setups, he made it and a lot of people copied it from him, sacy TEACHED players, he TEACHED Aspas how to be the GOAT, he TEACHED, face to face, 1 to 1, in a call, or in a meeting or in person, he TEACHED them, he is literally the reason why Loud was so strong, was Aspas is the GOAT, why G2 AND Sentinels is very strong, and even now that he is retired, he is still importante to players, cortezia said that when he was going thru a bad phase in masters toronto, sacy helped him to regain confidence and to improve his game
in the Champions finals he literally ended the series 70/51/44, with a 1.3 rating and 1.4 KD so the argument that he ''cant shoot' doenst make any fucking sense, u all just underestimate him
You do realize then sen couldn’t have that trophy without tenz? Or zellsis? Or Zekken? Or Kaplan? Every single member of that team is necessary, but sacy was still the worst player in the team.
Also this glaze is still insane, what happened to sen in 23 then? His teaching not work? What happened to sen is stage 1 and 2 in 24? His teaching randomly stop working?
Also LOUD SACY IS INSANE, which is why he is a top 10 player, but he’s not top 5 because of his career on sentinels.
Your sitting here acting like sacy made all of these players when most of them were incredibly talented anyways, and you have no idea how much pro players teach and learn from each other. Sacy is not some exceptional person in this regard. Also, didn’t saadhak mentor less?
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