A week between matches in the same event?

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#1
ChadMaxing
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Pet peeve I've had with Valorant tournaments forever now. Incomprehensible why there's so much time between round 2 and 3 of the playoffs. CS events have matches every single day. Are they just trying to force us to watch tier 2 events? Valorant viewership is already subpar compared to other major Esports, surely a week between rounds isnt helping.

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king_bob
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you’re supposed to twerk ur butt in the meantime I feel like that’s been common knowledge since day 1

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riensluvr
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No wonder Boaster is so good

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termtermtermterm
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don't the players that have been playing stressful matches nonstop deserve a break?

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ChadMaxing
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is there some reason that valorant matches are orders of magnitude more stressful than every other esport on the planet?

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GarbanzoEnjoyer
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Changing map pools, agents, team comps, etc. does mean there's a lot more to prepare for and I'd rather they get time to do that instead of watching uncoordinated mud fests because I can't go 4 days without watching a game

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ChadMaxing
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I don't think changing map pools are unique to Valorant. OWL has to deal with differing agents and team comps as well. DK why you're trying to downplay it, there's currently a 13 day gap between rounds in the pacific tournament. Are you suggesting teams need 2 weeks to prevent a "mud fest"?

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GarbanzoEnjoyer
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stop being obtuse vro the gap in Pacific is because they're hosting the next matches in Tokyo; the other regions are still playing every weekend

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ChadMaxing
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cool. still no answer as to why the same issues of map pool, team comp, and agents, all of which are issues in every single esport, is magically magnified because it's valorant. Dota and league have different agent pools, cs has varying map pools, and OWL/MR has all of the above. Those tournaments somehow find a way to put out a good product in a reasonable schedule. Cocomelon counter strike just too hard tho

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GarbanzoEnjoyer
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frankly dude I think each team playing once a weekend is more than enough; I'm an avid fan of VCT and I struggle to keep up, let alone casual fans who just want to watch the "big games"

the bigger problem is that there's not enough games for bottom-tier teams who don't qualify for internationals, but that's a format issue more than a volume one

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ChadMaxing
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I'm obtuse but the moment you get some evidence that doesn't go your way it's "what are you talking about there's no scheduling problem" and a subject change xDDD

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GarbanzoEnjoyer
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bro what are you talking about

  • you brought up the Pacific tournament, for which the long break is because they're playing in a different country (and apparently it wasn't long enough)
  • as for the regular season schedule, it seems totally reasonable to have six games a weekend. I don't know what "evidence" you're talking about
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The difference is that other esports usually only have one or two of said factors not all of them. Also most of the other esports don't get new maps as often, a meta that takes months to fully figure out just for it to change one week later.

CS: The map pool changes but the lineups remain practically the same and the meta hardly shifts in any meaningful way.

League/Dota: Only a handful of agents are actually played and usually teams know almost exactly what the other team wants to pick before the game even starts and get agent bans which Valorant doesn't have and the meta only shifts when an agent is buffed/nerfed.

OW: OW is a much faster paced games and it doesn't take nearly as much strategy and preparation as a tactical shooter like Valorant or CS.

MR: They play less games than Valorant and take huge breaks too so I don't know why you included MR in this

With CS and other esports its not like the top teams are playing every day a lot of times its what would be considered tier 2 teams in valorant playing and filling in the gaps while the top teams are taking a break for a few days. Other esports have more teams competing which allows for more tournaments and games to be played, but since Valorant doesn't have that you get less games. Not to defend riot but its not riot's job to run every single events/tournament past the ones they host, its the communities, orgs and/or companies job to do that and yet they don't, so don't blame riot for this.

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AlexSMTx
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shit practice riot are doing more to artificially make the season longer so people stop complaining about a long off-season when in reality we're getting pretty much the same amount of games than last season.

#11
Trykan
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its probably just to keeping the playoffs during the weekends (where the viewership would be highest) where possible

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cameran
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thats how the schedule goes. Riot does FSS for americas. WTF for EMEA and so on for other regions. they dont want to stop that

#15
ChadMaxing
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I think it's a given I'm aware of the schedule format if I'm complaining about it

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m0rtem
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its good for the players and coaches to rest and prepare so we dont have any nrg vs lev games. bad for viewership beacause people like me are bored af. if more games needs to be added, add 4th masters and a lcq for champs

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sentinelmain377
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it's a joke.

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