EWC Value | VLR.gg

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sawrice

Surely the EWC trophy is >= 1 masters trophy right? 16 team tournament (probably single elim brackets looking at the number of days) and 1.25M prize pool?

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if the format isn't BO1s than yes

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theres no fcking way its a bo1 im gonna lose it if so

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bro I already lost it when the qualifiers were BO1s

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CaxTonYT

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which qualifiers were bo1?

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every league except CN

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no

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OH SHIT IT WAS ONLY PACIFIC THAT HAD BO1s I NEED TO GET A BETTER MEMORY

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you're still pretty

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dude wtf do you mean by that

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😛

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did he stutter

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😏

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It's a single-elimination playoff stage.

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WHAT? so u mean it will be bo1

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Stormbreakers

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Oh, I am not sure about that actually. Maybe it isn't.

I don't really know why I pointed out that detail too tbh. Sorry XD

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Single elim means u lose one game u are out

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MrBlooBloom

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Qualifiers are objectively mickey mouse and the timing of the event makes it a mickey mouse too so it can't be equal to a master but it's a pretty big trophy still

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sawrice

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The qualifiers were stage 1 rankings and then online matches for the other two spots. I fail to see the mickey mouse. You have to give a reason for something like this no?

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imo its about red bull homeground level, too much mickey mouse stuff

it had separate qualifiers that overlapped with teams prepping for toronto
5 day tournament with 16 teams? either the format is shit or teams are playing multiple matches a day
Theres only a few days break between EWC and stage 2 for some regions, again ruining prep for actual matches
imo if it is not a VCT tourney it doesnt hold that "major" value

only thing that EWC has going on for it is the prize pool. its a hot topic but a prize pool doesnt mean anything for me as a viewer at all.

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True ykw. I really wanted to see riot give ewc more respect than what theyve done here. Giving it a bit more time wouldve made it more hype. I have been a big proponent for having 4 major events in a vct calendar year. Ik with all the costs riot could really only afford to do 3 (they used to have 4 but changed it in 2022). Fix up the calendar a bit more and EWC could become more like a third masters event for the year

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kimble

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yeah i feel like this year they just shoved EWC into some gap. maybe its better next year

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sawrice

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lhfaria on his way to rework how competitive vct works (the changes came 2 years later)

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can't wait to see the new changes (pls don't be shit)

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Hyxagon

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i believe ewc plans weren’t finalized until after the schedule for this year was made, so they didn’t plan for a sizeable gap in the year for it.
but since it’s already locked in for the next two years, it will probably have better scheduling

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I agree with the second point, but for the rest:
1) the top 2 teams from each region auto qualified which already makes it equal to kickoff in that aspect
3) irrelevant, what does its impact on the following tournament have to do with its value?
4) this would make sense if the teams weren't trying their best but we can be sure they will, if only for the prize money

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right now i doubt people will place it higher than a masters, but give it a few years and people will place it highly i reckon

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Aayan

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I’m not willing to have this convo yet

First I need to see standardised qualifiers in all regions, and that the group stage of the main event isn’t bo1’s. Plus the event is hella short and awkwardly placed in the calendar.

These are all problems I hope can be fixed by next year, but for at least this year; I’m putting only a little (if any) importance to it

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sawrice

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I mean fair enough. Part of me hopes that riot does another scheduling change for tier 1 competition so that they properly fit ewc into a designated slot and not some rando week that was free before split 2. Do that and then ill be able to see this event like a masters. I was talking more in terms of prize pool tho and the number of teams attending

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where did you get the info that the group stage matches are Bo1s?

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No points for champ

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sawrice

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True where tf are the champs point rito

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AleAlejandro

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It has less value than knights monthly gauntlet

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sawrice

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Ok thats a stretch 💀

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My team is not in the tournament = mickey mouse tournament

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Mickey mouse qualifiers means it cannot be above lockin probably in the tier below

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sawrice

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Lockin didnt have qualifiers gng 🥀💔

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Galactc

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Yeah but at least everyone was invited what's the point in qualifiers if:

They're inconsistent across regions
They're online qualifiers for teams that are already more or less already gathered in 1 country I refuse to believe they couldn't have held a lan for these

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sawrice

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They cant stream the games because emea was going on. Vct has a rule that all Valorant competitive streams are banned during official vct matches or something like this. And if you cant have an official stream why waste money for a lan for the games

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CaptainMasterOfGod

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It's another Masters for me so PRX can win 2 masters in a row

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More like Masters >= but it should be valued around there