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japan shouldnt get 2 spots

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#1
Dr_DoofenshmirtZ

i dont get why japan get 2 spots in masters berlin. they were the worst in iceland as well as berlin. yet they have 2 while there are other regions which gets 1 or no spots at all. SEA are way better than japan and they also have way more teams yet they get only 2 spots as well. you may call me biased as i am from india but i think south asia deserves a spot. i havent seen much of south asia but i have seen the playoffs of VCC, and i can tell you one thing for sure, they are better that fking crazy racoons. i think they should merge japan and korea and give them 3 spots in total so there is one spot left and give it to south asia next time.(also rip gaming in china)

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PrTsty
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just make a 24 team tournament and everyone is happy
16 is clearly not enough

#3
PotatoCh1ps
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Yeah and give 12 slots to NA

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PotatoCh1ps
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Rest 12 to Skrossi and team and their staff and their other games lineups.

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Adri98
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There are 16 teams and i see a big difference between regions. I dont like to see stomps like Gambit vs CR because it is one sided. If you wanna see 24 teams, we will see more boring matches.
Matches like yesterday (EU vs NA matches) make a good show and create a big fan base of this game. I hope to see more of this games.

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PrTsty
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if u have many NA vs EU games they arent special anymore
make a 12 team play-in, where the lower teams fight each other and there willl be less stomps. then have 4 of them go to the main event with 16 teams and you get higher competition but overall ou dont miss out on regions

#11
JettOnetap
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24 teams for the Champions yes but 24 teams for Masters? No

#12
PrTsty
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having more teams at champions makes no sense in the current format of VCT

#13
JettOnetap
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You know there are 3 Masters in a year right? Lan with 24 teams each time is too much for Riot. Just think about it and stop your nonsense

#14
PrTsty
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then make it 20, 16 is not enough, csgo tournament has 20/24 teams atm aswell, dota does it too and league

#15
JettOnetap
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No league's MSI has only 10-12 teams. Stop making things up. Masters are just qualifiers for the Champions. Riot can't spend too much resources just for qualifiers

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PrTsty
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MSI is something completly different tho. LoL is based on the different leagues like LCS and is franchised. its comparable to football leagues + champions league

#38
Asphyxia
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Rare PrTsty W. I get that it's pretty hard for people to understand how the VCT is supposed to work. But this one is pretty bad. I mean like how would they qualify the other regions that don't get into Masters then. Would they just have Challengers only. I guess they could do EMEA style shit in APAC. But still not a good idea.

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SubDosa
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today's EU vs SEA was really entertaining and very close

#25
Ibis
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I think 24 would be pretty boring because of a lot games between tier 2-3 regions

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PrTsty
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12 team play-in where lower regions play and gaina slot for the main event. 4 advance to the other 12 teams so firm there on its a normal 16 team tournament. Higher competition but also we dont lose out on the smaller regions + they wont get crushed

#4
FIreFistOM
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I don't think taking spot from anyone is a good idea... just increasing spots will be better

#6
MilanTheMyth
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24 Team tournoment all regions got atleast 2 slots + some new regions + EMEA / NA get 1 or 2 more slots.

#7
sWan10_exe
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Fake Flagger?

#8
SnooTangerines
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1) Zeta actually gave a fucking fight to KRU.

2) Crazy racoons was against Gambit who manhandled 100T on ascent and pretty much the first half of Icebox.
CR doesn't have a Hiko with them to consistently clutch 1v3s nor are they experienced enough to stay calm and think of comebacks after an 11-1 half. Your mental is just gonna disappear into thin air.

Yes, Japan is weak but not as weak as the Gambit vs CR match made it out to be. That being said tbh yes other regions do deserve that extra slot imo but that should be Riot increasing total slots and not taking away from Japan.

#21
cheaterr
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still, JP is the weakest region in masters

#23
SnooTangerines
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If you have multiple regions there will always be the weakest region.

That was a big brain analysis.

#31
cheaterr
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still tho, they shouldnt get 2 spots

#35
SnooTangerines
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Did you watch today's match?

Before Japan gets slots taken away, take away the BR slots.

#37
cheaterr
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ur point?

#41
SnooTangerines
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Here is my point -

Japan and SEA are both unlucky and get extremely bad seeds.
Because of this, they cannot perform to the level they can.

Paper Rex was placed into the death group.
Bren was placed with SEN.
CR was placed with Gambit.

If you put such teams against each other, obviously they will underperform.
ZETA division's group was much more evenly matched and hence you saw them actually give a fight.

Even in Iceland, X10 was placed with Vikings and later SEN. In the lower bracket, they went against FNATIC.

Crazy Racoons went against V1 who literally upset Liquid.

You cannot judge a team's capacity by placing them in such disproportionate groups.

On the other, a Brazillian team lost even to Japan.
They fail to win matches be it against NA or Japan.
The only victory they got was against a Japanese team.

#42
cheaterr
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JP didnt get a bad group lol

#43
SnooTangerines
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With Gambit and 100T? The only other team was a brazilian team that they beat.

ZETA also did not go without a fight in arguable the easier group.

#51
cheaterr
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PRX is in a group with 2 EMEA and the best team in asia
even benkai said JP teams are bad, they would knife someone in scrims with JP teams

#17
shyftnot
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Representation and also Valorant wants to be more inclusive by bringing in more new players and having that's why every scene is important.
But can someone explain why LATAM and BR are separated? Just curious.

#18
blicey
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nah honestly its true they suck and they dont deserve them BUT their viewership gives them the RIGHT to those spots, we need viewers to host these events and japanese viewers wont watch if their teams arent here

#19
Riizwan19xx
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GE will do the same or even worse against gambit than CR did if they played at berlin. Ge and Rossi fan speaking, dont bring haters, we already have enough global haters without even playing a international event.

#20
sWan10_exe
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and indians say India is better than JP lol

#39
ItsOnlyAGame
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Yeah, pretty sure skillZ and kappa would have like less than 0.5 KDA with their mechanics

#47
zephyr_nah
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still better mechanics and achievements than you ever will Mr. "I Troll my own country to look cool to foreigners"

#52
ItsOnlyAGame
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Nah I'm just a salty VLT supporter

They threw that final
(SkillZ is a weak link though, only blind fans wouldn't agree)

#49
DaalLiya
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imao indian taking validation from foreigners that which team is better or not .These guys have never seen a GE Match in there life .

#22
paperdark
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16 teams are not enough, imagine VALORANT will release in China (big region with as least 2-3 slots liking Japan) and become bigger and bigger in more others regions including South Asia.

#24
1cold
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Big audience

#26
arzuluvkitty
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they let the game grow in minor region. Skrossi also gonna perform the same as jp team

#27
HackNaija
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I'd rather it be like the world cup than the Euros. Wouldn't make sense to take spots from a worse region when you could literally increase spots for the tournament

#28
elayaCL
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Audience, viewers, marketing

#30
redlight
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Ah yes, back to this shit again. JP may potentially be the weakest region, but god damn do they rack in the viewership. Val is a new game, around a year and a half old so their esports scene is still growing. Since it's growing, viewership is growing too, and JP brings in insane numbers. Why take out the region that brings in the most viewers, just because GMB rolled CR? GMB is one of the best teams in the tournament, so them beating CR was inevitable. That badly? Maybe not, but god forbid acknowledging JP because of CR and not ZETA.

#32
big_chungus69
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200k Japanese viewers not even counting YT and Mildom when Zeta play. 0 chance they get their slots reduced, only expansion of total slots will ever happen

#33
Merc2
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are you dumb? It's 1-year-old game and you expect a region which is new to fps to just destroy everyone? grow up jp avg 200k views they def deserve 2 spots

#34
ranker11
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iceland: 0 map
berlin: 1 map
champions: 1 game
...
champions 3021: japan is the champions

#36
Tox1c
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L

#40
luckypleb
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they got viewership and money soo

#44
xTwitchyx
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If anything to stop this shit, they should have 2 reps per region and just do RR to see who's the weakest region tbh. Then it will finally shut up every fucking person who says X deserves more slots or take away Y spots. Not every region in this tournament will play others. What works against one region might not work against another. That's balance. Like CR got manhandled against GMB but won against Havan who were decimated by 100T. By this logic we should be taking away spots from BR as even the "weakest" region in the tournament won against them. If anything if you want to be fair and take it from "weaker" regions then take away BR's 2 spots as well. The only reason people don't want to take away spots from this is their history in CS, that's it. The japanese have their problem but only because they are still growing as a FPS region. Brazil has established itself in CS so of course people here don't want to take their spot but come on, they split 1-1 on their region vs region heads up. That shows you both regions have their problems.

#46
Jasper55
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It's not unrealistic, it's to build it's economy gotta keep it somewhat fair in amount of teams to everyone. And from here on out they can buid further seeing which teams deserve more, and which teams maybe don't quite deserve the spots they've gotten. They couldn't just copy CS in who are the best regions, seeing as Vision Strikers are absolutely fantastic, that would've been unfair. After Challengers are over I'm certain a lot of things will change again in VCT

#48
SubDosa
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rn I feel like the regions look like
NA>> EU=KR > BR=LATAM=SEA=JP

#50
cheaterr
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NA>EU>KR>LATAM=SEA>BR=JP

#53
Matrix13e
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KEKW!

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