Will we ever get a team as dominant on a map as Acend bind was (for people who don’t know they lost bind like one time in the entirety of 2021 and they played Bind like nearly every series
kalayav_n [#2]Are we ignoring LOUD's ascent?
I forgot about that but i still don’t think it was as dominant as Acend Bind
USCK [#6]I forgot about that but i still don’t think it was as dominant as Acend Bind
They lost ascent once lol, https://www.vlr.gg/team/stats/6961/loud/?event_id=all&date_start=2022-01-01&date_end=2022-12-01.
17 games 16 wins 1 loss
kalayav_n [#8]They lost ascent once lol, https://www.vlr.gg/team/stats/6961/loud/?event_id=all&date_start=2022-01-01&date_end=2022-12-01.
17 games 16 wins 1 loss
Acend went 24-1
Edit: it was 27-1
kalayav_n [#11]vs weaker competition and LOUD's core isn't washed rn.
A lot of Louds wins were farmed in Br which is significantly weaker than what Acensd had to face Its really fucking impressive what they did but not Acend level
emmanuel374631_ [#7]i think people forgot drx ascent was also insane
theyve always been top 3 but during their prime their haven was unstoppable
USCK [#13]A lot of Louds wins were farmed in Br which is significantly weaker than what Acensd had to face Its really fucking impressive what they did but not Acend level
They've beaten optic, fnatic, zeta, cloud9, nrg, edg, team liquid, lev, kru, navi. Only losing to eg, fnatic, optic.
kalayav_n [#15]They've beaten optic, fnatic, zeta, cloud9, nrg, edg, team liquid, lev, kru, navi. Only losing to eg, fnatic, optic.
Well Acend beat teams like tl,gambit,envy(optic),G2,SMB who were all s tier teams back then with scores like 13-3 13-2 and even a 13-0 against Gambit so there is no point arguing this lol
USCK [#17]Well Acend beat teams like tl,gambit,envy(optic),G2,SMB who were all s tier teams back then with scores like 13-3 13-2 and even a 13-0 against Gambit so there is no point arguing this lol
but the problem is LOUD is still good, theyre ascent is still insane. Wheres the acend core? What im trying to get at you is its less impressive because they faced dog shit teams.
kalayav_n [#18]but the problem is LOUD is still good, theyre ascent is still insane. Wheres the acend core? What im trying to get at you is its less impressive because they faced dog shit teams.
Just cause they are bad now doesn’t mean that team wasn’t good back then of course loud is a better team but most of their ascent wins were against Br teams so there is no argument about weaker competition when Acend played in the hardest region back then
USCK [#13]A lot of Louds wins were farmed in Br which is significantly weaker than what Acensd had to face Its really fucking impressive what they did but not Acend level
Acend was much more of a regional farmer than LOUD was....................................
acend played bind 5 times internationally out of 27 games
18%
LOUD played ascent 9 times internationally out of 17 games
53%
edit: made it 28 for acend games to match what dude said
Psion [#20]Acend was much more of a regional farmer than LOUD was....................................
acend played bind 5 times internationally out of 27 games
18%
LOUD played ascent 9 times internationally out of 17 games
53%
edit: made it 28 for acend games to match what dude said
and a lot of acend regionals were against teams that werent good enough to even make it to internationals in the first place
Kryogenix [#21]and a lot of acend regionals were against teams that werent good enough to even make it to internationals in the first place
regardless of level of opponent the bigger distinction is regional vs international, as the difference between international events and regional events is way bigger than the difference between regions
terms:
2021 international - 2021 EU > 2021 EU - 2022 BR
Psion [#23]regardless of level of opponent the bigger distinction is regional vs international, as the difference between international events and regional events is way bigger than the difference between regions
terms:
2021 international - 2021 EU > 2021 EU - 2022 BR
true
fardeengg [#4]eg fracture or loud ascent close
EG barely got any chances to play fracture after tokyo lmao, every team was so scared to play them on it when they managed to beat fnatic on it
kalayav_n [#18]but the problem is LOUD is still good, theyre ascent is still insane. Wheres the acend core? What im trying to get at you is its less impressive because they faced dog shit teams.
how is gambit, envy, tl, g2 in 2021 dog shit teams???????????